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[Hans Christian Anderson]

^well put. and about 90% of the time, i agree. yet cold vein > TI. just want to make that clear since that album is so damn good.

[boobs]

no no no you're wrong, lots of other people here are wrong and there are lots of middling albums mentioned in this thread.

[Hewletts Daughter]

No mention of Deltron yet invalidates this thread

No responses to this post further invalidates this thread

[championkid]

[Hans Christian Anderson]

no no no you're wrong, lots of other people here are wrong and there are lots of middling albums mentioned in this thread.

i like TI just fine but, to borrow one of your favorite rating methods, cold vein>>>>>>>>>anything TI's ever put out.

[boobs]

trap muzik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold vein

[MARDY FISH HEAD]

<_<Actually listening to it again now, I might pick we got it 4 cheap vol 2 as the US choice

When are you gonna get Clipse: We Got the Remix? That's their best one.

[Artem]

clipse shmips

[undo]

For every good "indie rap" album that comes along, there are at least ten like this:



Insultingly boring and just as cliched as any gangsta or coke rap out there.

I'm not letting the mainstream off the hook, just stating the truth.

[MARDY FISH HEAD]

For every good "indie rap" album that comes along, there are at least ten like this:



Insultingly boring and just as cliched as any gangsta or coke rap out there.

I'm not letting the mainstream off the hook, just stating the truth.

That's not just true of indie rap, that's true of all rap. And all music in fact.

It's not even like that record was bad, anyway. 'Man Vs Ape' and 'Glass' were fucking great. Saw them live with Murs when they were touring it, and they put on a really good show.

[SonicAlligator]

[spiritofeden]

Stankonia.

[Chronodiggity]

lolz

best post in this thread

[Pavement Ist Rad]

why do so many people here seem to prefer indie rap over say commercial rap, or however you'd call it, with the likes of t.i., young jeezy, lil wayne and such?

Why do so many people here seem to prefer indie rock over say commercial rock, or however you'd call it, etc.

Exactly.

There is this weird luddism going on in internet rap scenes where anything experimental or alternative in rap is a bad thing

I don't know why, but there's something about the vibe. Aesop Rock and Sage Francis and whoever are all talented, but something in the delivery or the production feels awkward. Maybe there's too much of a desire to be smarter than everybody else, which sometimes feels forced and kills a lot of rock music too, like Yes. When it comes off effortlessly, ie. Jay-Z, you have something good.

What the fuck are you doing equating the banality of "indie rap" with Yes.

[Chronodiggity]

Elastico circa 2007

[SonicAlligator]

No mention of Deltron yet invalidates this thread

Deltron was a great album, but I would never consider that to be the best hip-hop album of this decade. It wasn't even Del's best album of 2000. Both Sides of the Brain was fucking epic. I'm a big fan of all things Del (minus The Eleventh Hour), but Both Sides of the Brain is a little better, in my opinion. That was a good year for Del. Probably his two best albums actually. Can't beat "If You Must." That could also be because of my childhood love for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3.

[brobee]

No mention of Deltron yet invalidates this thread

Deltron was a great album, but I would never consider that to be the best hip-hop album of this decade. It wasn't even Del's best album of 2000. Both Sides of the Brain was fucking epic. I'm a big fan of all things Del (minus The Eleventh Hour), but Both Sides of the Brain is a little better, in my opinion. That was a good year for Del. Probably his two best albums actually. Can't beat "If You Must." That could also be because of my childhood love for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3.

is that the "it's important to practice good hygiene" song? i fucking loved tony hawk 3.

edit: if someone told me that they thought deltron 3030 was the best hip hop record of the decade, i wouldn't disagree. not my pick, but great, overlooked album regardless.

[boobs]

For every good "indie rap" album that comes along, there are at least ten like this:



Insultingly boring and just as cliched as any gangsta or coke rap out there.

I'm not letting the mainstream off the hook, just stating the truth.

^^^^^

[Pavement Ist Rad]

Classic album, right here.

[Tongue-Tied]

The Cold Vein gets my vote. Stankonia...never sold to me, as being a great hip-hop album. There's a handful of some VERY GOOD SONGS, but not a complete album experience, IMO.