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#201 Sam

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 04:00 PM

Simply from a story-telling standpoint, it would be tough to cut in the scenes of the "missing" Black Pirate author, the painter, and the movie special effects artists on Ozymandias' island. It would be a huge WTF for the audience.


But Snyder wants to include all of this in his inevitable director's cut.


I don't think so. He was going to include the Tales From The Black Freighter sequences. The backstory & hints surrounding Ozymandias' plan to create the alien are handled separately from that. Much of the information is conveyed in the "bonus material" that follows the conclusion of each issue.

And Damo, I think you're right. The critique and commentary on the comic-book medium (which escapes me utterly because outside of The Watchmen, I haven't read a comic in 20 years) will likely be lost in the film version. However, I think the book's commentary on the superhero genre in general can still translate to the big screen. And if that is handled properly, I think it can still be viewed as a successful adaptation. I like Moore's deconstruction of the superhero character throughout The Watchmen, and I'm not a comic book reader. I would think that many movie-goers will enjoy that as well.
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#202 Sam

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 04:56 PM

New footage: http://io9.com/50669...y-and-tormented

similar presentation (& still the SP song) as the previous trailer. but fuck, i think this looks awesome. the speed-ramping doesn't appear to be as egregious as in 300, so that's good too.
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#203 Damo Suzuki

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 05:07 PM

Forgive me if I sound too negative about this all. Regardless of how the movie turns out, I am glad this has gotten more people reading and talking about Watchmen. Since the movie was announced Watchmen has been climbing back up book sales charts. Cracking the Amazon 100 even. For all books, not just comic or prose books. For a meaty comic that is more than 20 yeas old and not filled with very much flash that is saying something.

Also, more importantly, I am glad Gibbons is enjoying the spotlight and financial security this movie has brought him. Watchmen was a 50/50 creation and it would never have been half as brilliant if not for Gibbons' exacting, groundbreaking art and design. Dude deserves to be rich and enjoy his creation.

Moore telling the execs that his share of the money should go to Gibbons was super classy.
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Posted 22 October 2008 - 05:33 PM

Also, more importantly, I am glad Gibbons is enjoying the spotlight and finical security this movie has brought him. Watchmen was a 50/50 creation and it would never have been half as brilliant if not for Gibbons' exacting, groundbreaking art and design. Dude deserves to be rich and enjoy his creation.

Moore telling the execs that his share of the money should go to Gibbons was super classy.


Damn straight. Every time I read that book I'm just floored by Gibbons' work. Chapter 5, Fearful Symmetry is an absolute masterpiece of presentation.
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#205 Ogawa

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 02:37 AM

New Watchmen trailer. I'll post this without comment because everyone already knows what I think of this project......

http://movies.yahoo....tml?showVideo=1

....... aaaand, I gotta comment, I think it looks awful.
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Posted 14 November 2008 - 03:34 PM

In the trailers the girl who plays the Silk Spectre comes off as incredibly stiff.
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#207 Bhickman

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 04:16 PM

Looks cool to me.
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Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:26 AM

Me too. I still firmly believe it's going to be great, even in light of the recent news/reveals of some changes. Still looks incredibly detailed and visually faithful (Ozy notwithstanding).

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 08:28 AM

Whenever I see that stupid title that says, "From the visionary director of 300", all I can think about is how 300 was a a pretty average movie, at best.
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Posted 15 November 2008 - 01:35 PM

what's the song in the most recent trailer?

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 01:55 PM

what's the song in the most recent trailer?

Muse's "Take a Bow".
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#212 Bhickman

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 10:11 PM

Whenever I see that stupid title that says, "From the visionary director of 300", all I can think about is how 300 was a a pretty average movie, at best.


On that, I will agree.
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Posted 16 November 2008 - 01:26 PM

Still looks good to me. I hope there isn't too much speed ramping, though. The opening fight scene that we see in the trailer might have a hint too much for my taste.
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Posted 16 November 2008 - 05:21 PM

I think the preview looks pretty cool. People being thrown out of windows in slow motion is always cool. While this film might be merely enjoyable, visually stunning entertainment, I have no idea how they are going to adapt the ending. I don't think there is any way they can make the ending of the movie anywhere near the quality that the ending of the graphic novel has. Also, regardless of the film, I'm still going to be let down because they have to leave out a bunch of shit. If they kept everything in it, the movie would be like 5 hours long. I'll still go see it in IMAX though and hopefully drool.
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Posted 16 November 2008 - 05:31 PM

Just read this for the first time ever. Pretty god damn impressive.
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 09:29 PM




the comic con footage. all slow motion. still makes me want to see this movie so bad.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 10:07 PM

That shot of Dollar Bill's body is strangely fantastic. And the more I see of Patrick Wilson as Dreiberg, the happier I am. The updated Nite Owl costume is still a little off, but out of costume he seems to be terrific.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 11:05 AM

So, as posted in the Now Reading thread, I've finally picked up The Watchmen... It's my first time reading a comic in probably 10 years and it is fantastic... I was getting a few beers at the 3 Floyds Brew Pub last night with some friends, a few of whom will soon be moving out of the country and a few others will soon be relocating. Even though I knew this would be one of really the last few times I will see this collection of people assembled like this, all I could think about was getting out of there to continue reading The Watchmen. I'm about a third of the way in and I see no way they could possibly adapt this to a worthy movie.

#219 Damo Suzuki

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 11:27 AM

Moore's From Hell and Promethea are even better.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 11:47 AM

Got this from the wife for xmas, and like Tweedy, it's the first comic I've read since about the time Watchmen was originally published. Pretty incredible though, def living up to its reputation. I'm impressed with the character development and psychology so far, which I didn't expect from a comic.