Aside from Ian Curtis being the poster boy for all awkward, hipster, fringe kids...the music is kind of weak. They don't have a body of work, just a few decent songs.
"Not fitting in" has become a fashion style and they started the trend. i.e. Interpol's latest album sucks.
I'm just gonna say it
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:34 AM
"Arcade Fire. They're less sincere. I buy that Vampire Weekend are Ivy League yuppies. Their music is WASP folk. Arcade Fire look as real as Civil War re-enactors and come off as aloof, arrogant drama students." --brent D.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:35 AM
agreed
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:36 AM
I like it when bands cover Joy Division. Can't say I'm planning to spin one of their records anytime soon.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:37 AM
that's a shame, yancy. they just remastered three of their best albums, and the quality is amazing. they come with live discs too, which is what joy division is really about, for me.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:38 AM
"Cornerstone Goth band" says it all.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:39 AM
Also, Cutis was more than anything... a giant pussy for giving up. Why should he be celebrated for that?
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:40 AM
I think the legend is better than the band, but I wouldnt say they "suck"
Their sound was really innovative at the time too.
Plus, say what you will about faux-angsty music but (and Im not really a fan) you cant deny that Ian Curtis really "meant" it.
Also, Control is gonna be rad.
Their sound was really innovative at the time too.
Plus, say what you will about faux-angsty music but (and Im not really a fan) you cant deny that Ian Curtis really "meant" it.
Also, Control is gonna be rad.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:41 AM
Also, Cutis was more than anything... a giant pussy for giving up. Why should he be celebrated for that?
He was also on really harsh and "primitive" meds at the time which would make it hard for anyone to act sensibly.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:43 AM
what kinds of meds?
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:44 AM
what kinds of meds?
Funny this comes up today, cuz I was just watching the brilliant Factory Records doc the BBC did (Viewable here:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=784671196311645201&q=joy+division+mondays&total=53&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)
I know at the least he was on some crazy ass epilepsy meds.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:47 AM
well, Control definitely kinda sucked
what does he file at the hall of records?
a declaration of tortoise intent
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:48 AM
it's out in Chicago?
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:51 AM
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Handsome Furs / D*R*I 3.15 Empty Bottle ?
Red Red Meat 3.18 Empty Bottle
Gaslight Anthem 4.3 Bottom Lounge ?
Glasvegas 4.6 Bottom Lounge
Handsome Furs / D*R*I 3.15 Empty Bottle ?
Red Red Meat 3.18 Empty Bottle
Gaslight Anthem 4.3 Bottom Lounge ?
Glasvegas 4.6 Bottom Lounge
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:53 AM
The greatest virtue of Joy Division is that is sowed the seeds for New Order.
"Love Will Tear us Apart" is glorious because of the keyboards and the instrumentation. It's the only listenable song for me with Joy Division, frankly because it sounds like New Order.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:55 AM
Nada Surf does a mean LWTUA.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:56 AM
^yeah they really soiled the legacy of that band, so unneccesary
the whole band are generally mean and inconsiderate assholes
edit: i am talking about joy division, not nada surft. they seem like solid dudes.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:56 AM
I would love to hear that. I heard "Popular" today
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 02:00 AM
they had a handful of amazing songs, but on the whole... yeah. much more influential than great for me. a good chunk of it has to do with the production on their records for me though.
thank you Ian Curtis for your suicide paving the way for New Order
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 02:02 AM
I can totally hear Ian Curtis doing a cover of "Popular"
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 02:23 AM
it's not an issue of New Order > Joy Division or vice versa; the only reason they're compared is because it's the same members obviously, but stylistically there's absolutely no grounds to call one superior
if you want pop and dance music done very well you turn to New Order, if you want harsh and minimalistic post-punk done very well you turn to Joy Division. They didn't suck, they're just relatively inaccessible.
Aren't there any girls out their who like good music? I need to and want to meet them. My favorite bands are Overkill River, The Nife, Songs:Ohio, and Nuetral Milk Hotel. Please let me know if your into indy music and like to go to show's and drink beer's and makeout.
