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#1 Sickpup

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 11:27 PM

I think a case can be made, two albums into their respective careers, that The Rakes have the better body of work. Sure, Franz's s/t is the best of the lot, but BOTH Rakes albums are very good, whereas Franz's sophomore record is putrid. Ten New Messages is quite underrated. Probably the strongest songs on an album that didn't make my EOY list. Too much filler, unfortunately. But "The World Was a Mess...," "We Dance Together," "Trouble," and "When Tom Cruise Cries" are all stellar.

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 11:29 PM

ok. whatever happened to Franz Ferdinand.
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#3 gwa

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 11:34 PM

Never was a huge FF fan, but Ten New Messages made #3 on my EOY list. 'Nuff said.

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 11:44 PM

I do think that Franz are more talented, for whatever that's worth...

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 12:14 AM

i don't know who the rakes are but they're better

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 12:25 AM

i don't know who the rakes are but they're better


i don't know who the rakes are but they're worse
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#7 Chronodiggity

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 12:38 AM

Your problem is that you think You Could Have It So Much Better isn't a ridiculously great album. I listened to it 150+ times, I should know.
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Posted 25 December 2007 - 12:38 AM

i don't know who the rakes are but they're better


i don't know who the rakes are but they're worse

i posted first, i win

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 12:40 AM

Your problem is that you think You Could Have It So Much Better isn't a ridiculously great album.

I listened to it 150+ times, I should know.


same here. You Could Have It... is great

#10 Mitchell

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 06:43 AM

I thought Ten New Messages was awful but the debut was stronger than ychismbwFF. Both will bounce back a little with their 3rd album would be my thought. The cribs record this year was better than Rakes for me.
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Posted 25 December 2007 - 08:17 AM

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 10:37 AM

I really like both a lot. I think the Rakes are the best of the recent crop of London rock bands. Ten New Messages is great. The first three songs (and When T.C. Cries) are fantastic. But the first FF album is the best of all four records, by far. FF have a lot more range. I can't see the Rakes doing numbers like Hallem Foe or Eleanor Put Your Boots Back On. Come to think of it, the Rakes albums are more held up by a handful of great songs, where as FF albums are more "albumy."

#13 Chronodiggity

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 04:36 PM

Franz Ferdinand's third album will top our year end list for 2008. A rogue prediction. I'm actually striving to get as many of these bullshit predictions down in writing now so that I can quote them next December and look like a genius.
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Posted 25 December 2007 - 07:03 PM

Your problem is that you think You Could Have It So Much Better isn't a ridiculously great album.

I listened to it 150+ times, I should know.


same here. You Could Have It... is great


I'm with them....far better then the S/T for the simple reason that there's some diversity in the tracks. The S/T always seemed to be too much of the same thing to me.
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#15 Chronodiggity

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 07:31 PM

Your problem is that you think You Could Have It So Much Better isn't a ridiculously great album.

I listened to it 150+ times, I should know.


same here. You Could Have It... is great


I'm with them....far better then the S/T for the simple reason that there's some diversity in the tracks. The S/T always seemed to be too much of the same thing to me.


What it lacks is that loud/soft dynamic and the intimacy of the s/t. The lo-fi crunch on the s/t is undeniably endearing, hell, that's why The Strokes used it twice. As a result, when they made the jump to the full sound on their third album, they hit some growing pains. Franz did it immediately and got that potential problem out of the way.


What's really important: http://en.wikipedia....9;s_third_album
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 02:51 AM

I don't want to get my hopes up so I will say I suspect Franz Ferdinand + Xenomania will end up being less than the sum of its parts. That Sound and Vision cover wasn't really anything
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 02:52 AM

It's so embarrassing liking a band where if you go on their most active livejournal community to find presale passwords or whatever all the posts are slash fan fiction. Not nearly as bad as when the Libertines were still around but jeez
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 08:12 PM

Here's one of the new synth-driven songs that will possibly appear on the new Franz album: "Turn It On" <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.c...></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.c...kqW-y-Ls&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> Pretty groovy.

#19 Mitchell

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Posted 29 December 2007 - 03:25 AM

"Turn It On" was a candidate for the last album, obviously they decided to hold it back for a reason other than quality.
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#20 Sickpup

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:18 PM

a good time to revisit this thread given that both are releasing their third albums within a couple months of each other.