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[Tony]

This thread is about Classical music (sorry for the inaccurate thread title)..

Because there should be at least one thread here about serious music.

Any questions anyone has to me about this...put em in here.

[scarymuppet]

All I need on this side is some Shosty. Everything else, meh. Unless we count minimalists. Lawl @ "serious music."

[Tony]

All I need on this side is some Shosty. Everything else, meh.

Lawl @ "serious music."

serious music = music where the notated score transcends any interpretation. Or to put it simply: music that's better than it can be performed or recorded. When you say 'great Beatles song' you're not really talking about something on paper...you're talking about a recording.

[Agrimorfee]

Serious music. Pfshaw!


But seriously, here's some classical tunes that rock my world, top of mind--

Mussourgsky, Pictures At An Exhibition
Holst, The Planets
Giannini's 4th Symphony, Movement 2.
Charles Ives, The Unanswered Question, Central Park In the Dark
Tchaikowsky, The Nutcracker Suite
Bach's Cello Suites
Mozart...Eine Kleine Nachtmusik of course, among others.
1812 Overture

[scarymuppet]

All I need on this side is some Shosty. Everything else, meh.

Lawl @ "serious music."

serious music = music where the notated score transcends any interpretation. Or to put it simply: music that's better than it can be performed or recorded.

That's retarded.

[Tony]

All I need on this side is some Shosty. Everything else, meh.

Lawl @ "serious music."

serious music = music where the notated score transcends any interpretation. Or to put it simply: music that's better than it can be performed or recorded.

That's retarded.

That's the definition. Pop tunes change from performer to performer. A string quartet stays the same.

[Tony]

Serious music. Pfshaw!


But seriously, here's some classical tunes that rock my world, top of mind--

Mussourgsky, Pictures At An Exhibition
Holst, The Planets
Giannini's 4th Symphony, Movement 2.
Charles Ives, The Unanswered Question, Central Park In the Dark
Tchaikowsky, The Nutcracker Suite
Bach's Cello Suites
Mozart...Eine Kleine Nachtmusik of course, among others.
1812 Overture

Hope you appreciate the photo of Tchaikovsky then. The CSO is doing a multimedia 'Beyond the Score' program on The Planets very soon. John Williams shamelessly ripped off 'Mars' for Star Wars.

[Agrimorfee]

John Williams shamelessly ripped off 'Mars' for Star Wars.

And Robert Fripp did that too in King Crimson's 2nd album. Personally, I love Emerson Lake & Powell's version.

[Tony]

John Williams shamelessly ripped off 'Mars' for Star Wars.

And Robert Fripp did that too in King Crimson's 2nd album. Personally, I love Emerson Lake & Powell's version.

Uum Emerson Lake and Palmer? Anyway didn't they do Pictures At an Exhibition?

[Nick]

What is a good Mozart album to start w/?

[Tony]

What is a good Mozart album to start w/?

The self-titled debut album.

If you're serious though the best piano concertos are probably the best instrumental music ever written. 20-25 are the peak. Try 20...minor key goodness..

[NewGrass]

All I need on this side is some Shosty. Everything else, meh.

Lawl @ "serious music."

serious music = music where the notated score transcends any interpretation. Or to put it simply: music that's better than it can be performed or recorded.

That's retarded.

That's the definition. Pop tunes change from performer to performer. A string quartet stays the same.

uh, I have a lot of "serious" music that has nothing to do with classical music. Hell some of the shit I've posted in my random uploads thread could be considered "serious" by your definition. You make it sound as if classical music is above all other forms of music. Pfft.

[Agrimorfee]

John Williams shamelessly ripped off 'Mars' for Star Wars.

And Robert Fripp did that too in King Crimson's 2nd album. Personally, I love Emerson Lake & Powell's version.

Uum Emerson Lake and Palmer? Anyway didn't they do Pictures At an Exhibition?

Palmer was too busy with Asia in 1985, so E & L got veteran prog drummer Cozy Powell to sit in. (worked out nicely that he had a 'P' name...)
MTV appearance
(no video sadly, but you can find 'Mars' on Torrent or Rhapsody. I highly recommend the self-titled album if you are into the ELP thing at all)
And ELPalmer did do 'Pictures At An Exhibition' but I think they cheat by only doing 3/4 of the piece and that boring Greg Lake "The Sage" song which has nothing to do with it.

[Seamus]

Debussy, Satie, Fauré...that's kind of how I roll. Went through a little Wagner phase in college--like, I'm sure, a lot of us here did.

[Seamus]

Palmer was too busy with Asia in 1985, so E & L got veteran prog drummer Cozy Powell to sit in. (worked out nicely that he had a 'P' name...)

Ohhhh, isn't this lineup responsible for "Touch and Go"? Pleasure = guilt-ridden.

[Tony]

All I need on this side is some Shosty. Everything else, meh.

Lawl @ "serious music."

serious music = music where the notated score transcends any interpretation. Or to put it simply: music that's better than it can be performed or recorded.

That's retarded.

That's the definition. Pop tunes change from performer to performer. A string quartet stays the same.

uh, I have a lot of "serious" music that has nothing to do with classical music. Hell some of the shit I've posted in my random uploads thread could be considered "serious" by your definition. You make it sound as if classical music is above all other forms of music. Pfft.

Like what?

I'm not implying pop musicians aren't serious about the music they create. But what they create isn't serious music.

Sorry dude but there's more to music then just melody + chords. If you do nothing but write songs...verses, a bridge and a chorus with an instrumental solo thrown in...you're not operating at the higher registers of what music is capable of.

Thematic development, variation, counterpoint...

[elcorazon]

This thread is about Classical music (sorry for the inaccurate thread title)..

Because there should be at least one thread here about serious music.

Any questions anyone has to me about this...put em in here.

man, tony, I was so proud of you for properly titling your thread. Really easy to see what it was about, might generate interest from some folks who enjoy this particular genre... but then you have to throw a jab at me (I guess, not sure I get it), and follow up by kinda putting down the rest of the board by identifying Classical as the ONLY serious music.

i dunno tony. you might wanna stick to the dead thread.

and one more thing. I prefer my music to be fun or moody or to have interesting or thought provoking lyrics, rather than be SERIOUS.

[NewGrass]

All I need on this side is some Shosty. Everything else, meh.

Lawl @ "serious music."

serious music = music where the notated score transcends any interpretation. Or to put it simply: music that's better than it can be performed or recorded.

That's retarded.

That's the definition. Pop tunes change from performer to performer. A string quartet stays the same.

uh, I have a lot of "serious" music that has nothing to do with classical music. Hell some of the shit I've posted in my random uploads thread could be considered "serious" by your definition. You make it sound as if classical music is above all other forms of music. Pfft.

Like what?

I'm not implying pop musicians aren't serious about the music they create. But what they create isn't serious music.

Sorry dude but there's more to music then just melody + chords. If you do nothing but write songs...verses, a bridge and a chorus with an instrumental solo thrown in...you're not operating at the higher registers of what music is capable of.

Thematic development, variation, counterpoint...

I don't listen to pop music, is everything that isn't classical music considered pop music to you? Talk Talk - Laughing Stock and Spirit Of Eden are waaay beyond that. Most everything I listen to doesn't have a typical structure unless it's pop music that I like for the fact of it being fun.

[Tony]

This thread is about Classical music (sorry for the inaccurate thread title)..

Because there should be at least one thread here about serious music.

Any questions anyone has to me about this...put em in here.

man, tony, I was so proud of you for properly titling your thread. Really easy to see what it was about, might generate interest from some folks who enjoy this particular genre... but then you have to throw a jab at me (I guess, not sure I get it), and follow up by kinda putting down the rest of the board by identifying Classical as the ONLY serious music.

i dunno tony. you might wanna stick to the dead thread.

I was going to title the thread 'Serious music'. I don't like the title 'Classical' since it implies only one period in music history. Anyway would you prefer 'Art Music'?

There's been tons of great pop music over the centuries..but only post 1960s did people start operating under the delusion that a songwriter, even a very good one...is equvalent to someone like Bach. Can you imagine Stephen Foster or Irving Berlin making that claim? Now people like Tom Petty state that Brian Wilson is 'up there with Beethoven' ...proving himself a musical ignoramus.

[NewGrass]

I don't think you know enough outside of pop music to be making fun of anything modern, that's not in the pop scene.