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[Bleep Blop]

I'm happy as long as the Bulls aren't at 9 drafting Kevin Love or Joel Alexander or some other big white guy.

[biggie mcsmalls]

Whould you do Hinrich and Noicioni for Odom? Assuming Rose is the pick. A useful player whose contract would come of the books after next season, plus you clean up the backcourt rotation.

[dice]

Edit: Beasely only had...four games in which he failed to get ten or more rebounds. What the hell? That's ridiculous.

but that was when he was 6'10"

[biggie mcsmalls]

Edit: Beasely only had...four games in which he failed to get ten or more rebounds. What the hell? That's ridiculous.

but that was when he was 6'10"

[Bleep Blop]

Whould you do Hinrich and Noicioni for Odom? Assuming Rose is the pick.

A useful player whose contract would come of the books after next season, plus you clean up the backcourt rotation.

Rather have someone else, but why not. Odom is talented as hell, but if Odom gets traded for, better hope the Bulls play well- otherwise he loses interests and the injuries start piling up.

I'd almost rather take a risk on J. O'neal. He doesn't have too big of a chance of coming back as the same player, but his gigantic expiring contract would be pretty great in '10- plus getting him would probably mean trading them Hughes back.

[dice]

Whould you do Hinrich and Noicioni for Odom? Assuming Rose is the pick.

A useful player whose contract would come of the books after next season, plus you clean up the backcourt rotation.

start odom at PF and further reduce PT for gooden and tyrus? i don't like that

[biggie mcsmalls]

start odom at PF and further reduce PT for gooden and tyrus? i don't like that

If that's what it takes to get clear out a guard and get rid of Nocioni, then yes.

Odom would only be here a year.

Another deal involving Gooden could porbably be had. He is a productive player with a very reasonable expiring deal.

But BB's probably right about O'Neal. Let Noah back him up for a year.

I still like a deal involing the corpse of Raef Lefrentz and Jarrett Jack for some combination of Nocioni, Hinrich or Hughes.

[JeffTweedysFatStomach]

Lamar Odom was so awesome as the leader of that Miami Heat team during Wade's rookie season. As much as I hated Wade from my college years at Marquette, I loved that team. And then they traded him to LA for Shaq and I was forced to hate Miami and feel bad for Odom but not cheer for him. Not sure if I would want him on this team, though, unless he's splitting time evenly with TT at the 4 as well as backing Deng up at the 3/bringing the ball up when Rose is out of the game.

[The Good Dr Bill]

what the hell would the Lakers do with Hinrich and Nocioni, anyway? I don't get what's in it for them.

[pong]

Odom was great until the finals: he's staying in LA. Devil's advocate: Rose is smaller than advertised also. With Rose you have a higher chance of immediate impact. With Beasley: you have a higher probability that it takes him many years to bulk up a bit and become a good player: ala Tyson Chandler. That's just my opinion.

[biggie mcsmalls]

what the hell would the Lakers do with Hinrich and Nocioni, anyway? I don't get what's in it for them.

They need guys that can play defense and hit open shots.

[biggie mcsmalls]

With Rose you have a higher chance of immediate impact. With Beasley: you have a higher probability that it takes him many years to bulk up a bit and become a good player: ala Tyson Chandler.

I think it's just the opposite, to tell you the truth. Rose's ceiling is higher, but is dependent on a lot of ifs. Beasley has the type of game that should translate pretty well to the NBA. It's going to take Rose a while to develop his jump shot and get his shooting percentages up, as well as adjust to the speed of the NBA game.


Rose may eventually be the better player, but Beasely will probably have a more immediate impact as a scorer and rebounder.

[biggie mcsmalls]

Odom was great until the finals: he's staying in LA.

They obviously need to improve their overall roster to win it all. More than waiting for Bynum to come back. Odom is the best trading piece they have. He's got a $14 million expiring contract, and he is a very good player.

[Bleep Blop]

what the hell would the Lakers do with Hinrich and Nocioni, anyway? I don't get what's in it for them.

Hinrich would be an amazing PG in the triangle offense- although they already have Fisher and Farmar who are both pretty damn good in it as well. I just think Hinrich as a combo guard would be a great fit next to Kobe- certain has the size and defense to play next to him- although he does need a consistent shot or somehow magically gain the ability to drive(his worst quality as a player).

I have no idea how Phil would use Nocioni, but he'd be a huge step up over Vujacic and Radmonovich, no doubt about it. They'll take any good deal they can get for Odom, because I don't think he'll be resigning after this next year.

[st. park]

With Rose you have a higher chance of immediate impact. With Beasley: you have a higher probability that it takes him many years to bulk up a bit and become a good player: ala Tyson Chandler.

I think it's just the opposite, to tell you the truth. Rose's ceiling is higher, but is dependent on a lot of ifs. Beasley has the type of game that should translate pretty well to the NBA. It's going to take Rose a while to develop his jump shot and get his shooting percentages up, as well as adjust to the speed of the NBA game.


Rose may eventually be the better player, but Beasely will probably have a more immediate impact as a scorer and rebounder.

yep. i have little doubt that beasley will win roty and put up very good offensive stats from the start. pg's generally take a few years to develop.

[dice]

They obviously need to improve their overall roster to win it all. More than waiting for Bynum to come back.

c'mon. you're adding bynum to a team that was upset in the finals

[Bleep Blop]

With Rose you have a higher chance of immediate impact. With Beasley: you have a higher probability that it takes him many years to bulk up a bit and become a good player: ala Tyson Chandler.

I think it's just the opposite, to tell you the truth. Rose's ceiling is higher, but is dependent on a lot of ifs. Beasley has the type of game that should translate pretty well to the NBA. It's going to take Rose a while to develop his jump shot and get his shooting percentages up, as well as adjust to the speed of the NBA game.


Rose may eventually be the better player, but Beasely will probably have a more immediate impact as a scorer and rebounder.

yep. i have little doubt that beasley will win roty and put up very good offensive stats from the start. pg's generally take a few years to develop.

I'll take Oden to win ROY.

[biggie mcsmalls]

They obviously need to improve their overall roster to win it all. More than waiting for Bynum to come back.

c'mon. you're adding bynum to a team that was upset in the finals

I think that upset showed serious flaws in the make up of that team that are way more significant than Bynum coming back.

Dude, Ray Allen and Pierce destroyed their perimeter guys.

[st. park]

With Rose you have a higher chance of immediate impact. With Beasley: you have a higher probability that it takes him many years to bulk up a bit and become a good player: ala Tyson Chandler.

I think it's just the opposite, to tell you the truth. Rose's ceiling is higher, but is dependent on a lot of ifs. Beasley has the type of game that should translate pretty well to the NBA. It's going to take Rose a while to develop his jump shot and get his shooting percentages up, as well as adjust to the speed of the NBA game.


Rose may eventually be the better player, but Beasely will probably have a more immediate impact as a scorer and rebounder.

yep. i have little doubt that beasley will win roty and put up very good offensive stats from the start. pg's generally take a few years to develop.

I'll take Oden to win ROY.

really? i'd take that bet. i think oden's going to take some time to develop too. his impact will probably be stronger than what shows in his stats.. and generally speaking, the rookie with the best ppg wins roy.

[Bleep Blop]

With Rose you have a higher chance of immediate impact. With Beasley: you have a higher probability that it takes him many years to bulk up a bit and become a good player: ala Tyson Chandler.

I think it's just the opposite, to tell you the truth. Rose's ceiling is higher, but is dependent on a lot of ifs. Beasley has the type of game that should translate pretty well to the NBA. It's going to take Rose a while to develop his jump shot and get his shooting percentages up, as well as adjust to the speed of the NBA game.


Rose may eventually be the better player, but Beasely will probably have a more immediate impact as a scorer and rebounder.

yep. i have little doubt that beasley will win roty and put up very good offensive stats from the start. pg's generally take a few years to develop.

I'll take Oden to win ROY.

really? i'd take that bet. i think oden's going to take some time to develop too. his impact will probably be stronger than what shows in his stats.. and generally speaking, the rookie with the best ppg wins roy.

I think it'd be close, but it's a pretty thick talent pool this year- it wont be a 'win by default' thing like Durant had last year just because he put up 20 a game. If the Blazers are winning and Oden is putting up double-doubles and tons of blocks/good d, I think it's his. But who knows what kind of insane numbers Beasley will throw out there.

Mayo has a good shot too. Rose..don't see it happening.