Is it even possible for any self-respecting woman to like rap music? I mean, maybe I'm just stating the obvious but hip-hop(or whatever you kids call it nowadays) is inherently sexist, right?
Rap is sexist
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, Sep 17 2008 12:33 PM
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:35 PM
Well, "inherently" would mean there's something sexist about rhyming over beats, since that's what rap is. There is a lot of sexism in rap, but there's also a lot of it in rock. Or in all things, really.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:38 PM
ok, no. i mean, yes rock music objectifies women also but come on, rap has just taken it to another levelWell, "inherently" would mean there's something sexist about rhyming over beats, since that's what rap is. There is a lot of sexism in rap, but there's also a lot of it in rock. Or in all things, really.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:44 PM
Dave Chappelle says about racism, "Traveling has made me a racism connoisseur, if you will... Anyone ever been down south? So you guys know what I'm talking about. Now the racism down there is just fucking MWAH! It's perfect! Stewed to a perfection! It's comfortable, it's out in the open. There are no secrets in Mississippi."ok, no. i mean, yes rock music objectifies women also but come on, rap has just taken it to another levelWell, "inherently" would mean there's something sexist about rhyming over beats, since that's what rap is. There is a lot of sexism in rap, but there's also a lot of it in rock. Or in all things, really.
The same thing could probably be said about sexism in rap. Stewed to a perfection.
Few beings have ever been so impregnated, pierced to the core, by the conviction of the absolute futility of human aspiration. The universe is nothing but a furtive arrangement of elementary particles. A figure in transition toward chaos. That is what will finally prevail. The human race will disappear. Other races in turn will appear and disappear. And human actions are as free and as stripped of meaning as the unfettered movements of the elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, sentiments? Pure ‘Victorian fictions.’ All that exists is egotism. Cold, intact, and radiant.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:47 PM
Rap isn't my favorite form of pop music, but saying Rap is sexist is like Jigga saying indie rock is Racist.
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Read all of my stupid song parodies here. Latest song improved/ruined: "Once Again" by Girl Talk.
Listen to my stupid song parodies, recorded a capella via cell phone, at vocalo.org .(search 'agrimorfee')
Read the slowly developing history of classic putative rock band The Anderson Council at my cheap, bland blog
Might as well throw my Last.fm page here, too.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:58 PM
nice attempt at creating a controversial thread, grandmaIs it even possible for any self-respecting woman to like rap music? I mean, maybe I'm just stating the obvious but hip-hop(or whatever you kids call it nowadays) is inherently sexist, right?
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:58 PM
what's wrong with sexy?
"What's wrong with being sexy?"
"We've got Armadillos in our trousers."
Sadly, rap does occasionally cross the fine Line Between Stupid and Clever
Someone should teach those kids to fish.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:59 PM
ok, fucker, thankslock thread
He has a fair point. You're making an extremely basic thread on a topic that has been discussed exhaustively on this board on multiple occasions in the past, not to mention the vast public discourse on the subject over the past 25 years on the Internet, in the media, and elsewhere.
Unless the thread was meant as extremely low-key parody or just deejbait, you are obligated to provide a more developed first post with a new angle on the issue or some topical/timely element to it.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:06 PM
sexist how?Is it even possible for any self-respecting woman to like rap music? I mean, maybe I'm just stating the obvious but hip-hop(or whatever you kids call it nowadays) is inherently sexist, right?
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:12 PM
nice attempt at creating a controversial thread, grandmaIs it even possible for any self-respecting woman to like rap music? I mean, maybe I'm just stating the obvious but hip-hop(or whatever you kids call it nowadays) is inherently sexist, right?
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:33 PM
i go to a pub quiz every week and if there is any hip hop in the music round the quizmaster goes on a big rant about how stupid girls today must be to listen to such misogynistic rubbish and how bad the attitude in 'gangster rap' is in general (its always gangster, even if its kanye for example), then he'll play something nice and polite like guns & roses and say "eeh thats more like it, in my day we knew how to treat a lady"*
*certain points may be exaggerated to emphasize the point
*certain points may be exaggerated to emphasize the point
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:42 PM
Bitches ain't shit but hos and tricks.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:49 PM
Yes, this is quite the stupid thread.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:52 PM
I thought this thread said "Rape is Sexist" which I would likely have agreed with.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:58 PM
nah
while i agree rap is sexist, i disagree on how women could possibly like rap
look at the clubs - it has beats and you can dance to it, and it has catchy hooks - "certain" people dig that, regardless of gender.
also, rap can also glorify murder, crack, etc. - most people take this tongue in cheek, and don't take the concepts to heart, regardless of gender
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 02:16 PM
don't let the door hit ya' where the good lord split ya'looks like i'm officially done with this board.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 02:29 PM
Sex is rapist
