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#1 Montana

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:03 PM

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Who wins?

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:08 PM

Holyfield started boxing when he was 8? Jesus. That's a great picture.
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:09 PM

i wish i could watch it.
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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:32 PM

The loser has already been predeclared; Holyfield's brain. I mean,what is this guy doing? He's already fucked up. I know he's got 12 mil or so of debt going, but this is insane.

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:56 PM

I can't believe the actual question to this thread was "who wins?" Are you kidding me? Holyfield doesn't stand a fucking chance. I'll predict a long, boring fight. I might not be right on "long", but i'll eat my ass if Holyfield wins this. He's a money-sucking whore. That's the only reason he's in this.

#6 Mike Schank

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 09:04 PM

Is Don King involved? I'd take Holyfeild if he is. The match up is so ludicrous that it has to be a fix.

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 09:32 PM

Is Don King involved? I'd take Holyfeild if he is. The match up is so ludicrous that it has to be a fix.


I'll give you 4-1 on Holifraud. That would be easy money Mike.

I'm going to watch the tote board very closely tomorrow. Unless there is a huge money influx on Holyfield, i'll accept the fact that this isn't fixed and this will be an absolute mismatch.

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 10:57 PM

Is Don King involved? I'd take Holyfeild if he is. The match up is so ludicrous that it has to be a fix.


I'll give you 4-1 on Holifraud. That would be easy money Mike.

I'm going to watch the tote board very closely tomorrow. Unless there is a huge money influx on Holyfield, i'll accept the fact that this isn't fixed and this will be an absolute mismatch.


Is the fight tomorrow? This is the first I've heard of it. When I was a kid I really liked boxing but now I only watch the stuff that's on late nights on some sports channel, usually lightweights. I'm not a MMA fan but this fight proves why it has passed up boxing in popularity. It's like when I flip past wrestling and see Shawn Michaels or Randy Savage are still in the ring.

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 09:56 AM

4/1, the best I can see is 9/2 for Holyfield. Bullshit fights like this an PPV is why people don't care as much anymore. The last Calzaghe fight and Carl Froch beating Jean Pascal the other week were very good fights though.
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Posted 20 December 2008 - 07:05 PM

there is nothing on the horizon worthwile in the heavyweight division...but i think we've all known that since lennox retired if 2009 can bring anything as good as the margharito v cotto match, i will be satisfied.

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 07:47 PM

Our new HD cable service doesn't get this fight. Guess I will have to go to a bar.
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Posted 20 December 2008 - 07:51 PM

It's finished.
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#13 Montana

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 08:43 PM

Fuck I thought it was in the states. Looked like a good match.
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#14 Ned Braden

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Posted 20 December 2008 - 08:51 PM

Evander's motivation for fighting
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Evander Holyfield Claims His Quest For Severe Brain Damage Keeps Him Fighting

ATLANTA—Forty-six-year-old heavyweight boxer Evander Holyfield, who has taken hundreds of blows to the head in a career spanning more than 50 professional matches, told reporters Wednesday that he wouldn't stop fighting until a neurological examination reveals that he has acute brain damage. "When I can no longer speak clearly, or remember where I'm from, or what I what I what what, then I'll know it's time to hang up the gloves, but until then I think I want spaghetti for dinner with mushrooms and rubber-band sauce," said Holyfield, adding that his Dec. 20 bout with Russian Nikolai Valuev should put him one step closer to his dream of suffering irreparable tearing and lesions of the brain, and that he likes really big Ferris wheels. "I'm close. I can feel it—the tingling sensation in my hands, the bright lights that hurt my eyes. Maybe a few more [fights] after this one. Okay, Mom, I'm going to bed now. Bye-bye." Holyfield then rubbed the top of his right ear and asked reporters, "What the hell happened here?"
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 10:22 AM

I think I'd prefer to watch Rocky IV and I hate Rocky IV.

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Posted 22 December 2008 - 01:41 PM

was boxing made obsolete by ultimate fighting?
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 01:47 PM

Imagine that Wrestling has had more of an influence, don't see a rolling boxing thread on here for example.
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 02:03 PM

Imagine that Wrestling has had more of an influence, don't see a rolling boxing thread on here for example.

what i mean is, if you really wanna see two human beings beat the shit out of one another, UFC's got it over boxing. but maybe boxing is more "legit" somehow. or maybe it's the history
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 02:12 PM

I don't watch boxing to see "two human beings beat the shit out of one another". God no. Boxing is not a classy sport but UFC is even less so. I don't want to watch two crown men grappling.
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 02:21 PM

I don't watch boxing to see "two human beings beat the shit out of one another". God no.


OTM. Problem for a lot of people is they grew up in an age where boxing, through Don King's shenanigans and assholes like Tyson, increasingly rendered itself irrelevant. The show became everything outside the ring and not what happened in it. But if you go back and watch the Ali fights in the 60s and 70s, or even earlier footage of the great champions, you can see how much more "the sweet science' was than just a couple guys beating each other up.