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#21 caley

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:02 PM

Top 5 Billy Joel Songs


5. The Stanger: It's made even better by the Dave Chappelle sketch where he talks about jacking himself off with his left hand and calling it 'The Stranger' and that just adds interesting elements to lines like: "Why were you so surprised/That you never saw the stranger/Did you ever let your lover see/The stranger in yourself?"

4. Vienna: I saw a blog post years ago about this song where the blogger always thought the lyrics went "The yellow waits for you" and he thought it was in reference to traffic lights and remarked what a comforting statement that no matter where you were the yellow lights would wait for you. Then he learned it was Vienna and didn't know what to think.

3. Rosalinda's Eyes: I'd never even heard of this song until it was used on Freaks and Geeks. So, now it reminds me of lauching mini rockets into the sky.

2. Movin' Out (Anthony's Song): It's all about the part where he goes: "But working toohard can give you a heart attack, ack, ack, ack, ack, ack"

1. Only the Good Die Young: I mean, this is just a good song, right? It's catchy, it's upbeat, the lyrics are fun. It's just really good.

"'I Love My Dad' is the only one that slightly annoys me, maybe because I never loved my dad."

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:09 PM

My two favorites are "My Life" and "The Stranger"...I tend to like his uptempo tracks.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:23 PM

One reason to like Billy Joel is "Goodnight Saigon".

Another reason to like him is one of the greatest music videos ever.
One reason to hate him is the worst music video ever.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:27 PM

Every time I hear "Movin Out", I imagine it as the opening credits theme song to a cheezy movie that doesnt exist. It stars John Ritter and its fro the late 70s and in it he is loading up a station wagon in front of a shitty apartment in Brooklyn to move to the west coast. Parts of it are very similar to the opening of the first Karate Kid film.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:30 PM

Well, we all remember "My Life" as the theme song to 'Bosum Buddies', eh? :) The lyrics don't fit the show's conceit at all, yet, ...it just seems to go well together.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 03:38 PM

i like several of his songs. i just can't summon the energy to attack or defend him


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Posted 26 January 2009 - 04:49 PM

i like several of his songs. i just can't summon the energy to attack or defend him


Thirded...and he's far from the worst ever. At least he writes and sings his own songs...and plays an instrument. Who cares about if there's some shlock in his catalog...dude wrote enough pop gems to warrant some appreciation.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 04:51 PM

This is almost as bad as that time Slate published Christopher Hitchens' takedown of Superman 2.

Still waiting for Slackmo to delete this thread.


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Posted 26 January 2009 - 05:25 PM

Another reason to like him is one of the greatest music videos ever.



hell yea. love this song.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 05:37 PM

Glass Houses is Billy's rocking out album, and one of the best releases of his career. It's unfair to lump Billy Joel in with the singer-songwriter movement. His music is much closer to that of Randy Newman's and the Brill Factory.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:06 PM

This is almost as bad as that time Slate published Christopher Hitchens' takedown of Superman 2.


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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:17 PM

At least he writes and sings his own songs...and plays an instrument.


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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:51 PM

Billy gets played so much on the radio like Phil Collins and Fleetwood Mac. I dont have anything by Billy, Phil, or Fleetwood, except an early LP "Black Magic Woman". They should play more Van Morrison on their playlists and lots less of the above mentioned.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:54 PM

I'm not a huge fan of his writing, but my favorite thing that I've ever read of Chuck Klosterman is his article/chapter/whatever about Billy Joel. It just touches on so many things about music criticism and fandom: people's ironic vs. sincere appreciation of artists, artists being overlooked for lack of coolness, the idea that Billy Joel or KISS is worthy of intellectualizing over just as much as Bruce or Radiohead etc.
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#35 Frank Valentine

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:02 PM

the idea that Billy Joel or KISS is worthy of intellectualizing over just as much as Bruce or Radiohead etc.


This bothers me. I am getting tired of reading articles in serious news magazines which feature intellectuals deconstructing the cultural implications of the new Lil Wayne record. It's like the scale has totally been tipped. Fifty years ago, rock and roll was music for the kids to dance to, and intellectuals perused over modern jazz and classical works. I think it's good that popular music is now taken more seriously, but there are consequences to this. I wince when I hear various pop singers referred to as "artists." The playing field has been leveled by folk music and rock and roll, but I think music journalism has become a bit too populist. Shouldn't artists whose work addresses complex themes be given the majority of intellectual consideration? More balance is needed in my opinion.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 11:31 PM

Only read the first couple of sentences but if the writer is going to claim that Joel is the worst pop artist AND Wyeth is a bad painter I'm not gonna read the rest. For God's sake, we've got Thomas Kinkades and Celine Dions still around, what kind of argument is that, buddy?

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:59 AM

the idea that Billy Joel or KISS is worthy of intellectualizing over just as much as Bruce or Radiohead etc.


This bothers me. I am getting tired of reading articles in serious news magazines which feature intellectuals deconstructing the cultural implications of the new Lil Wayne record. It's like the scale has totally been tipped. Fifty years ago, rock and roll was music for the kids to dance to, and intellectuals perused over modern jazz and classical works. I think it's good that popular music is now taken more seriously, but there are consequences to this. I wince when I hear various pop singers referred to as "artists." The playing field has been leveled by folk music and rock and roll, but I think music journalism has become a bit too populist. Shouldn't artists whose work addresses complex themes be given the majority of intellectual consideration? More balance is needed in my opinion.


Well I would argue that Joel is worthy of serious attention as a great popular composer just as much if not more than whatever flavor of the month critical darling is getting it at any given moment. And that saying Joel is on the same artistic level as KISS is insane.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 01:19 AM

Yeah, I guess I went sort of off-topic with that diatribe. I'm not saying Billy Joel is not worth serious attention, but I don't really know much about his music. He does write actual songs with some thought behind them, so that's worth attention I suppose. I may not like his music, but I wouldn't classify him with KISS. I agree with others though, in saying that there are a lot of people who should be taken down before Billy.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 01:51 AM

Curious here...what does anyone think of Ben Folds vis a vis Joel? How re they any different, if at all? Why does Ben get more general admiration, if not more record sales and awards (and Christie B. temporarily)?


Ben Folds is far more talented. Whatever and Ever Amen is pretty much perfect.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 03:36 AM

Billy gets played so much on the radio like Phil Collins and Fleetwood Mac.


Phil Collins is due for a comeback now that he was a major influence on 808's and Heartbreaks. You heard it hear first.

As for Billy Joel, there's a lot of nostalgic value there, which works both for an against him. When I was 8, "Uptown Girl" was one of my favorite songs, for some unknown reason. I both love and hate that song now, a) because it's a terrible song B) because I had shitty taste when I was 8 c) because it reminds me of being 8. Innocent Man, The Stranger, and Storm Front were some of the first cassettes I ever bought, and Storm Front was the first book of pop music I ever played on the piano. When I went to overnight camp, every year, at the end of camp, we did this thing called "Color Days" where the camp divided into two teams for a series of competitions, mostly athletic, but it also involved each team making a song, and one year, our song was to the tune of "Piano Man." And jumping ahead a few years, what guy that's deflowered a Catholic girl doesn't love "Only the Good Die Young"?

Objectively, I think almost everything he's written is terrible, but a couple of songs stick around in memory for nostalgic reasons, my appreciation of them tinged with irony and self-consciousness, but nonetheless real and heartfelt. These are songs that I'd never, or almost never, deliberately play on my iPod, but which can still be a serendipitous source of joy when caught randomly on the radio or in the right bar with the right people. I think the fact that some of these songs retain this power is a tribute to the catchiness of Billy Joel's songwriting, but the fact that they've also grown somewhat irritating over years is a testament to how ultimate hollow they are behind that initial catchiness.