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Fuck McCain, fuck Obama - Krallice/Nachtmystium, 2008.

Wait til you hear the new Caïna, though...

I'd vote Black Metal '08!

I haven't totally figured out Caina yet. I'm sure I'll figure out the ultra slow, atmospheric black-ish metal thing eventually, but it hasn't captured me yet.... Unfortunate, 'cuz e'rybody raves about Caina/The Angelic Process/Nadja/Etc.

[Backslash M Forwardslash]

So, after about a year off of them, I'm totally back on Katatonia. I've always loved The Great Cold Distance, Viva Emptiness and Tonight's Decision, but never cared much for Last Fair Deal Gone Down. All of a sudden, though, I'm sold on LFDGD. At any rate, anyone have any other recommendations for me to check out while I'm on the Katatonia "gloom pop" train?

[James D]

Have you got Opeth's Damnation? Probably their most ambitious album to date and it's all clean vocals with lots of folky elements (more than usual). Definitely worth checking out if you're into the Katatonia clean vocal, thing.

[Saskadelphia]

I've been obsessing over Brave Murder Day as of late. And I love the version of "Cold Ways" from last year's live album.

[taste the waste]

Fuck McCain, fuck Obama - Krallice/Nachtmystium, 2008.

Wait til you hear the new Caïna, though...

Mourner was fantastic, so I can't wait.

Seriously, though: these two albums - Krallice and Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. I are ridiculously good. From what I'm reading, though, there's some backlash against the Nachtmystium album. Any insight into that, Sask? Metal fans seem like a real hard breed to please - try and do something different and you get branded a sell out or a wuss; keep to it strong and you're labeled boring and cliché. Or so it seems.

[throughsilver]

I have to say, I'm not exactly impressed with Slipknot's new song "Psychosocial"...it sounds tame by their standards

Damn don't wanna hear that one. Their standards are pretty tame. Then again their best tune is a melodic one. 'wait and bleed'

[Saskadelphia]

Seriously, though: these two albums - Krallice and Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. I are ridiculously good. From what I'm reading, though, there's some backlash against the Nachtmystium album. Any insight into that, Sask? Metal fans seem like a real hard breed to please - try and do something different and you get branded a sell out or a wuss; keep to it strong and you're labeled boring and cliché. Or so it seems.

A lot of underground BM fans really seem to have a thing against Blake Judd, it's quite ridiculous to read about. And the fact that's he's trying to do something new on a label with big distribution only adds to it. But yeah, whenever a metal band of any kind tries somethnig new, good or bad, there's always a furious backlash.

Good, simple, raw black metal can be awesome in capable hands, but it's not like it's grindcore, where the template is absolutely rigid. I think, and most here will agree, that today's BM is at its best when it stretches out and attempts new things, whether it's as dark as Deathspell Omega or as accessible as Alcest.

I have to say, I'm not exactly impressed with Slipknot's new song "Psychosocial"...it sounds tame by their standards

Damn don't wanna hear that one. Their standards are pretty tame. Then again their best tune is a melodic one. 'wait and bleed'

Maybe "tame" wasn't the right choice of word...more like "rote".

[Alky 2009]

I will completely agree with that idea Sask, the best black metal albums I've heard over the past couple years are all pushing boundaries and loosening restrictions on the genre. But, tbh, a lot of that is because your standard USBM has always been one of my least favorite sub-genres.

[James D]

Fuck McCain, fuck Obama - Krallice/Nachtmystium, 2008.

Wait til you hear the new Caïna, though...

Mourner was fantastic, so I can't wait.

Seriously, though: these two albums - Krallice and Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. I are ridiculously good. From what I'm reading, though, there's some backlash against the Nachtmystium album. Any insight into that, Sask? Metal fans seem like a real hard breed to please - try and do something different and you get branded a sell out or a wuss; keep to it strong and you're labeled boring and cliché. Or so it seems.

As Sask touches on, it's just some bullshit metal thing where hardcore fans object to any variation on the accepted way of doing things. The Nachtmystium album is terrific and I'd go as far to say that the typically non-BM stuff on this album is the best part of it. I've listened to Krallice twice and knew it was good. I just wish we didn't have visitors staying at the moment so I could crank this shit (I don't think they'd take kindly to me playing this sort of music).

[Backslash M Forwardslash]

Have you got Opeth's Damnation? Probably their most ambitious album to date and it's all clean vocals with lots of folky elements (more than usual).

Definitely worth checking out if you're into the Katatonia clean vocal, thing.

Yeppers, I own it. Good album, for sure.

[Heretix]

Sask, you are making me desperate to hear this Caina album! When does it come out?

[Backslash M Forwardslash]

Fuck McCain, fuck Obama - Krallice/Nachtmystium, 2008.

Wait til you hear the new Caïna, though...

Mourner was fantastic, so I can't wait.

Seriously, though: these two albums - Krallice and Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. I are ridiculously good. From what I'm reading, though, there's some backlash against the Nachtmystium album. Any insight into that, Sask? Metal fans seem like a real hard breed to please - try and do something different and you get branded a sell out or a wuss; keep to it strong and you're labeled boring and cliché. Or so it seems.

As Sask touches on, it's just some bullshit metal thing where hardcore fans object to any variation on the accepted way of doing things. The Nachtmystium album is terrific and I'd go as far to say that the typically non-BM stuff on this album is the best part of it. I've listened to Krallice twice and knew it was good. I just wish we didn't have visitors staying at the moment so I could crank this shit (I don't think they'd take kindly to me playing this sort of music).

While we're all accepting deviation from traditional metal, the latest Novembre really is pretty good...... It's sorta pop metal that follows a black metal format.

Novembre Myspace

By the way, I too have been enjoying Nachmystium and Krallice. They inspired me to pull out a li'l Agalloch, Wolves in the Throne Room, and Year of no Light. Groovy.

[Backslash M Forwardslash]

I've been obsessing over Brave Murder Day as of late. And I love the version of "Cold Ways" from last year's live album.

I really haven't ventured back past Tonight's Decision. It might be time......

[Saskadelphia]

Sask, you are making me desperate to hear this Caina album! When does it come out?

It's out in late September. Really cool blend of ambient black metal and dreampop.

[Heretix]

Sask, you are making me desperate to hear this Caina album! When does it come out?

It's out in late September. Really cool blend of ambient black metal and dreampop.

You're killing me here, man.

Also, (finally) giving a listen to Krallice. An album where 5 out of the 6 tracks are approaching (or beyond) the 10 minute mark is a bit imposing, but I'm liking it so far. I like how the vocals are buried in reverb, gives it a different feel than a lot of USBM (or at least the USBM I know).

[taste the waste]

Really cool blend of ambient black metal and dreampop.

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[Saskadelphia]

Haha, seriously. One minute it's Burzum, the next it's Slowdive. Then folk. Then the Cure. But it all flows beautifully. He's a talented lyricist, too, as anyone who has Mourner knows full well, and this one is a really cool combination of fantasy, naturism, and his usual Satanic themes. I'd say he's arguably the most poetic Satanic dude in metal today.

[velocity]

You've sold me. I heard something by them the other day that I really liked.

The new Burst album is very strong. Did Origo have a strong Melvins vibe? I can't remember, I haven't played that CD in a while. The first half of this one sure does.

I say no, it's more technical. But I don't listen to a lot of Melvins.

So, I'm putting together a birthday mix for someone who loves Gojira. I'm thinking Hacride, Between the Buried and Me, Black Elk, and Intronaut. Additional suggestions welcome. Thanks!

[Alky 2009]

I could see someone into Gojira really liking Yakuza, that might be a good choice.

[James D]

Meshuggah, as well.