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[HandBanana]

Im kinda starting to think that that kind of cultural sea change is impossible now. Nevermind was really just the breaking point for like a decade of underground that bubbled up to the point of being impossible to contain underground. Technically another Nirvana should have happened by now. Hell, everyone thought it was gonna be The Strokes 5 years ago. Sigh.

[Jess]

Hell, everyone thought it was gonna be The Strokes 5 years ago.

Was that before everyone realized the strokes suck?

[nobodies]

Of course it can happen again...it's just one of those things that's impossible to imitate or anticipate. Unfortunately, I think right now we're way to self conscious about music and pop culture in general. Everyone is hoping that everything will be the next big thing. Kind of like dating a chick who's talking marriage on the first date...it's an impossible situation.

[HandBanana]

Im with you on the self-consciousness thing. Its like the bands that want so bad to do the next thing that they will just do something anti or opposite for originality's sake, as if that alone should innoculate shitty music to criticism (Wolf Eyes, Im looking in your direction) It's like that Onion headline: "Experimental Band 'Theoretically' Good"

[DrJimmy]

no one can predict it. maybe hip-hop will produce a truly great, original melody-maker instead of these cut-and-paste guys.

[tager]

My thought will always be that the album became bigger after Kurt's death. My bet is if Eddie Vedder blew his brains out a few years after "Ten", you would be asking the same question about that album instead.

[DrJimmy]

My thought will always be that the album became bigger after Kurt's death.
My bet is if Eddie Vedder blew his brains out a few years after "Ten", you would be asking the same question about that album instead.

sometimes i think that, but then i listen to the album and realize how great it is, song after song...

[Rocks And Blows]

My thought will always be that the album became bigger after Kurt's death.

Thats the second time that i've heard that on this board in a few weeks, and I dont buy it. Did Nirvana and the album benefit from Kurt's death, yes. But they were the biggest band in the world when Kurt died, Nirvana always had an element of danger that PJ never had or will have, and I love PJ. Part of what lead to Kurts death was part of the legend long before he died.

[Rajexico]

It's happened several times since Nevermind, but most people are too bound by format and genre expectations to really be aware of it, or alternately, they can fully experience one or maybe two paradigm shifts but those shifts then define their values too statically for them to be sensitive to the ones that come later.

[HandBanana]

Naw tager, that record was huge in real time. Not to offend you, because I genuinely dont know, but how old were you at the time? It was a really great time to be a music fan, if only for 18 months or so because it seemed like things were finally going to change for the better. Of course that all went to shit reeally quick. It wasnt because "Nevermind" was the greatest record ever (although it is really great) it was just the opening of a long-held-back floodgate. I dont mean to grind the age axe, so forgive me. But I find the same thing with peeps that grew up after Star Wars. They dont realize that it was just a big hit like Matrix or Lord of the Rings, but it was a moment that changed and touched almost everything else.

[Vivian Darkbloom]

I have a feeling some real cool shit may be not too far down the pike. It's precisely these lame fallow periods that often incubate revolutionary groundbreaking sounds.

[boobs]

oldest thread topic in somb history?

[yancy]

It's happened several times since Nevermind, but most people are too bound by format and genre expectations to really be aware of it, or alternately, they can fully experience one or maybe two paradigm shifts but those shifts then define their values too statically for them to be sensitive to the ones that come later.

If a tree falls...

[ParticleHustler]

It's happened several times since Nevermind, but most people are too bound by format and genre expectations to really be aware of it, or alternately, they can fully experience one or maybe two paradigm shifts but those shifts then define their values too statically for them to be sensitive to the ones that come later.

If a tree falls...

By its very definition it couldn't have happened since then if no one noticed. That's would made Nevermind what it was - it made people who otherwise wouldn't have bothered take notice. It forced them to be aware of it.

You seem to be describing aftershocks, but Nevermind was the earthquake.

[HandBanana]

It's happened several times since Nevermind, but most people are too bound by format and genre expectations to really be aware of it, or alternately, they can fully experience one or maybe two paradigm shifts but those shifts then define their values too statically for them to be sensitive to the ones that come later.

Noone disputed that, but it has been noted in the minutes that you are very hip.

Now moving on, we are talking about what is by definition a HUGE paradigm shift.
Thus, we are talking about large-scale cultural change.

[boobs]

I'm pretty sure thats what Raj is talking about too.

[HandBanana]

Maybe Im wrong then, but I dont feel that kind of overhaul has occured.

[Mitchell]

Now moving on, we are talking about what is by definition a HUGE paradigm shift.
Thus, we are talking about large-scale cultural change.

In the UK at least.

[boobs]

Maybe Im wrong then, but I dont feel that kind of overhaul has occured.

What kind of overhaul? Major labels start signing AMAZING INDEPENDENT MUSIC like the Smashing Pumpkins and Red Hot Chili Peppers?

[TJENZ]

oldest thread topic in somb history?

not exactly
It is a close second behind Guilty Pleasures threads