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[atrius]

SNW is the eagerly awaited 5th studio album from the Sacramento-based band Deftones. The album will be released on Maverick Records on October 31, 2006. The first single will be called "Hole In The Earth". The song can be heard at the Deftones' MySpace page as of August 16, 2006. The single is scheduled to hit the radio on October 16, 2006. It was recently announced (via MySpace) that anyone who places their order before the release of the album (in otherwords any order palced until October 30th) will recieve "1 of 3 special edition lithographs".

Track listing

1. "Hole In The Earth" - 4:09
2. "Rapture" - 3:25
3. "Beware" - 6:00
4. "Cherry Waves" - 5:17
5. "Mein" (featuring Serj Tankian) - 3:59
6. "U, U, D, D, L, R, L, R, A, B, Select, Start" - 4:12 [1]
7. "Xerces" - 3:42
8. "Rats! Rats! Rats!" - 4:00
9. "Pink Cellphone" (featuring Annie Hardy) - 5:04
10. "Combat" - 4:46
11. "Kimdracula" - 3:15
12. "Rivière" - 3:44

Confirmed collaborations on the record include Annie Hardy from Giant Drag on the song "Pink Cell Phone" and Serj Tankian from System of A Down on a song called "Mein". Rey Osburn of Tinfed fame and Dr. Know of Bad Brains contributed to songs early on in the recording process but it is unknown if they made the cut.

Length 51:33
Label Maverick Records
Producer(s) Shaun Lopez
Bob Ezrin
Deftones

So, the album has officialy fished (as far as Wikipedia entries can be official), and even though I'm not a big Deftones fan, and couldn't really like their previous albums, I do think this album is quite good.

As any other indie fan who casually ran into Deftones, I liked some of their songs (Minerva stands out), but couldn't listen to their albums as a whole. However, SNW seems to be one of the better LPs I've heard recently.

In relation to previous albums by Deftones, SNW is more shoe-gazey, got stronger melodies, and is less "heavy". In some moments it really reminded me of Hum. Tracks 1 to 7 are all very good, while "Rapture" and "Mein", together with the first single, really stand out. I immediately liked everything I heard, and I got the impression the album is very accessible.

There's a minor drop in quality near the end of the album - "Rats! Rats! Rats!" (too intense, less melodious) and "Pink Cellphone" (utterly strange) don't even grow on me, and thats after the sixth listen or so.

Overall, it has that Deftones sound, but its also quite different. I'm curious what the fans, and "White Pony" fans in particular, will think of this album. After all, the reason I like it that much might be the same one that will turn other people off.

[Vivian Darkbloom]

Wh1te Pony to thread... Curious about this. The "shoegaze" comment is interesting. Chino always cites MBV and Cocteau Twins as an "influence," but their cover of "Wax and Wane" seems really phoned in to me. Anyone else heard the leak?

[solace]

fuck no it doesn't. it's way better than the last piece of trash, but i don't think it compares to the first 3 really.

[Inzane]

Never been that much of a Deftones fan, but this album is truly shite.

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"Rapture" is a great track, and "Hole in the Earth" is awful. That's all I've heard so far; I guess it merits a listen.

[wh1tep0ny]

It is no White Pony that is for sure every band has to have their "masterpiece" and Wh1te P0ny I'm sure will be theirs until they cease to exist as one of the biggest Deftones fans in the world (been watching them since 93 back in Sacto at the Cattle Club) I must admit their fourth album Deftones took me a while to get into I was hoping for a whitepony repeat since then I've grown to love it after just a few spins of SNW I'm already digging most of it (Cherry Waves, Xerxes, Mein, Combat, Rapture, Beware and Pink Cellphone) the rest will surely follow. as far as shoe-gazey it's been noted many times by Chino without the Cure or the Smiths he would of never been a singer the Deftones are at their best when they find the perfect balance between Chinos' tastes (smiths, Cure, MBV) and Stephens ( Mastadon, Slayer, Meshuggah ) I also think Hole in the Earth is a grower but still sorta weak Maverick is horrible at picking singles where Deftones are concerned in fact I think Deftones succede inspite of Mavericks horrible execution

[atrius]

the Deftones are at their best when they find the perfect balance between Chinos' tastes (smiths, Cure, MBV) and Stephens ( Mastadon, Slayer, Meshuggah )

thats quite spot on.. to me it seems like SNW leans more towards Chinos' taste, which might explain why I like the album that much, even though it's not "Deftones at their best", to your definition.

[Vivian Darkbloom]

BTW- what the fuck is a "Saturday Night Wrist?" Their lyrics are always pretentious and awful, but WTF? Sounds like a little Sacramento self-loving.

[wh1tep0ny]

Their lyrics are always pretentious and awful, but WTF? Sounds like a little Sacramento self-loving.

what's wrong with that??

I mean does anyone love Wilco or Smashing Pumpkins more then Chicago Natives?

It's only natural to take pride in an act from your hometown, however when I began my hero-worship of Deftones I was 1 of maybe 30 loyal fans. I never dreamed they would be on a National scale though I believed they deserved to be from the first abrasive chord and tortured shriek

and to me most lyrics can be found pretensious when one isn't a fan of the chosen band and brilliant when one is

I mean Karma Police what the fuck is that if not pretentious?? but I fucking love it

same goes for Neutral Milk Hotel, most of Tom Waits, REM, The Smiths and many other great bands

[castaña]

I really liked 'Hole in the earth', a lot. I'm really sorry. It's a pity Chino sings so terrible alive. I'm really sorry.

[Vivian Darkbloom]

Their lyrics are always pretentious and awful, but WTF? Sounds like a little Sacramento self-loving.

what's wrong with that??

I mean does anyone love Wilco or Smashing Pumpkins more then Chicago Natives?

It's only natural to take pride in an act from your hometown, however when I began my hero-worship of Deftones I was 1 of maybe 30 loyal fans. I never dreamed they would be on a National scale though I believed they deserved to be from the first abrasive chord and tortured shriek

and to me most lyrics can be found pretensious when one isn't a fan of the chosen band and brilliant when one is

I mean Karma Police what the fuck is that if not pretentious?? but I fucking love it

same goes for Neutral Milk Hotel, most of Tom Waits, REM, The Smiths and many other great bands

My initial post was a not-so-successful joke on how "Saturday Night Wrist" is suggestive of masturbation, not a diss on Sacto as a City (I have a number of clients up there and have nothing but love for the town and it's people).

And I'm all for heady, weird lyrics- it's just that Chino's read like High School Junior Year emo scribblings.

[Saskadelphia]

I'm enjoying about two thirds of this album, mostly when Chino's vocal melodies sound stronger than just a bunch of trite whining. There's some strong stuff, but after "Pink Cellphone", which is a complete waste of time, the album seems to peter out.

[velocity]

On first listen I liked it better than I did White Pony, which bored me initially but I ended up loving. We'll see if this one grows on me.

[wh1tep0ny]

I'm enjoying about two thirds of this album, mostly when Chino's vocal melodies sound stronger than just a bunch of trite whining. There's some strong stuff, but after "Pink Cellphone", which is a complete waste of time, the album seems to peter out.

that's where I was at first (not sure how many times you've heard the album)

I agree Pink Cellphone is a joke track that should of never made the album- joke songs are for b-sides only imo

but I think 2 of the better songs come at the end Reverie and especially Kimdracula

Kimdracula has vocal effects and moods that remind me of Queensryche "Screaming in Digital"

vocal effects not ability - even as a Deftones fan I realize how limited chino is vocally

I'd love to know what 2/3rds your digging

I like all the tracks minus Pink Cellphone and the instrumental piece (I've always disliked intrumental rock music)

[r.i.p.]

haven't heard the album, but the cover seems like an obvious attempt at "Around the Fur II".

[castaña]

haven't heard the album, but the cover seems like an obvious attempt at "Around the Fur II".

But this one is much better.

[Saskadelphia]

Okay, after letting this CD sink in, I think this is one strong album, I just might like it more than White Pony. The band can still push those ATF/WP buttons (whitepony's right, "Kimdracula" is excellent), but it's Chino's increasingly strong vocal melodies that make it so good. The first five tracks, especially. It does what the band obviously wanted to accomplish with the 2003 album, but the new disc is much more well-rounded. I still hate "Pink Cellphone", it's a complete toss-off, and is an unnecessary interruption. Other than that, I like it a ton.

[The Good Dr Bill]

someone let me know if there are any songs on this to rank with "Change" or "Be Quiet and Drive"

[wh1tep0ny]

Cherry Waves dude seriously it might become my favorite Deftones song Dr Bill what about Passenger?? most of my friends that dont like Deftones love BQAD and Passenger top 5 deftones tracks for me Lotion Passenger Cherry Waves ( but climbing) Digital Bath Teething

[Saskadelphia]

Cherry Waves, Hole in the Earth, Beware, Kimdracula are all terrific. I'm more taken by this album than I ever expected to be.