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[Agrimorfee]

. I feel like Spielberg knew this movie sucked, yet decided to make it anyway merely to get a shit ton of money. What other reason would there be to create such an awful film like this? I

Spielberg speaks on the DVD again and said he had real no intention of doing another one, but Ford pestered the hell out of him and Lucas to do it. Then, everyone decided it would be "fun."

[Agrimorfee]

If you went into it looking for a good time you probably had a good time. If you went into it with an overly critical eye it probably sucked. It's a one time use only popcorn movie. You never have to see it again, but the first time is pretty fun.

But it's sad that it barely tries to be as good as the other films that ultimately copied Raiders (King Solomon's Mines,The Mummy, etc.)

[Ogawa]

If you went into it looking for a good time you probably had a good time. If you went into it with an overly critical eye it probably sucked. It's a one time use only popcorn movie. You never have to see it again, but the first time is pretty fun.

Spielberg is one of my favorite directors. I went into it looking to love it. I hated every single minute of it.

[caley]

I loved Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It was funny, entertaining, lots of stunts, lots of ridiculousness. It's pure Indiana Jones. I don't get what everyone else was expecting?

[AFTERSHOCK]

I loved Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It was funny, entertaining, lots of stunts, lots of ridiculousness. It's pure Indiana Jones. I don't get what everyone else was expecting?

Everyone expected Raiders, which is still one of the greatest action films ever made.

Personally, I enjoyed Crystal Skull as a fun popcorn flick, and found myself liking it more the 2nd time around. In fact, I think it's on par with Last Crusade (which has great character chemistry that almost makes up for the weak finale) and worlds better than Temple Of Doom (which has spectacular action sequences, but damn did I hate the 2 sidekicks).

[Vivian Darkbloom]

damn did I hate the 2 sidekicks).

THIS IS FUN!!!

[M_Rots]

If you went into it looking for a good time you probably had a good time. If you went into it with an overly critical eye it probably sucked. It's a one time use only popcorn movie. You never have to see it again, but the first time is pretty fun.

This is such a massively BS rationalization. I've been reading exactly this "Oh, it was a popcorn movie..." line from people who enjoyed it ever since the Summer, and I just wonder what the hell goes through people's minds. If you liked the movie (not specifically you, Vamos) fine, who cares?

People enjoy the Alien vs. Predator movies, and anything involving Schwarzenegger and guns, as well - it doesn't mean they're good movies, though. Just entertaining. There's nothing wrong with being entertained and not seeking anything more, but why oh why do the people who enjoyed this movie have an ongoing need to tell the rest of us that we were wrong to expect something more of a series with a pedigree involving Spielberg, Lucas and Harrison Ford?

I mean, what's the thinking, there? That I'll suddenly slap myself in the head and say, "Oh gosh, you're right! How dare I have expectations of people who've led me to have expectations of them? This is the most brilliant movie ever, as long as I pretend it was made by idiots who got lucky."

[cerebralcaustic]

I've been watching the Wall-E special features. As usual with these types of things, my appreciation for what Pixar does has grown exponentially. Interesting little featurette on the evolution of the human characters. They started out as alien blobs of jello. When that wasn't working, Pixar changed them to humans, but a lot of the jello blob characteristics remained.

[Ogawa]

If you went into it looking for a good time you probably had a good time. If you went into it with an overly critical eye it probably sucked. It's a one time use only popcorn movie. You never have to see it again, but the first time is pretty fun.

This is such a massively BS rationalization. I've been reading exactly this "Oh, it was a popcorn movie..." line from people who enjoyed it ever since the Summer, and I just wonder what the hell goes through people's minds. If you liked the movie (not specifically you, Vamos) fine, who cares?

People enjoy the Alien vs. Predator movies, and anything involving Schwarzenegger and guns, as well - it doesn't mean they're good movies, though. Just entertaining. There's nothing wrong with being entertained and not seeking anything more, but why oh why do the people who enjoyed this movie have an ongoing need to tell the rest of us that we were wrong to expect something more of a series with a pedigree involving Spielberg, Lucas and Harrison Ford?

I mean, what's the thinking, there? That I'll suddenly slap myself in the head and say, "Oh gosh, you're right! How dare I have expectations of people who've led me to have expectations of them? This is the most brilliant movie ever, as long as I pretend it was made by idiots who got lucky."

Precisely.

[vamos]

No. I never said it was a good movie, I just said that if you think it was some kind of complete and utter trash that's because you let your expectations control your viewing experience. You could have said, "OK this isn't as good as I wanted or expected it to be but instead of being overcome by my disappointment I'm going to try to eat my fucking popcorn and watch this silly, enjoyable, but entirely forgettable movie." I went in expecting a fun time, knowing that it was going to suck (because I read reviews before I go to movies so I know what I'm getting into, and don't have overwhelming expectations so that I'm not inevitably disappointed), and I enjoyed myself. Never want to see it again, but it's definitely not a terrible movie. I work at Blockbuster, and believe me there are much, much worse, less entertaining movies out there.

[caley]

There's nothing wrong with being entertained and not seeking anything more, but why oh why do the people who enjoyed this movie have an ongoing need to tell the rest of us that we were wrong to expect something more of a series with a pedigree involving Spielberg, Lucas and Harrison Ford?

The same reason so many who did not enjoy it seem to have an ongoing need to remind the rest of us that do that it's garbage.

[M_Rots]

There's nothing wrong with being entertained and not seeking anything more, but why oh why do the people who enjoyed this movie have an ongoing need to tell the rest of us that we were wrong to expect something more of a series with a pedigree involving Spielberg, Lucas and Harrison Ford?

The same reason so many who did not enjoy it seem to have an ongoing need to remind the rest of us that do that it's garbage.

But that's the point: It is garbage, given its pedigree. From any other filmmkers, it might get a higher grade, but it isn't from any other filmakers, and there isn't any other franchise name on it. Defending your enjoyment of it is one thing, but to do so by telling people their expectations were too high is inane. How am I not supposed to compare this to the others and find it wanting? How does that work?

[Montana]

I loved Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It was funny, entertaining, lots of stunts, lots of ridiculousness. It's pure Indiana Jones. I don't get what everyone else was expecting?

I was expecting it to be in the same ballpark as the first two. That's all. Sure, there were some cool tricks and exciting moments, but the writing was awful, the acting was awful and the plotting was awful. And trust me, I've been on the "go to a movie and have fun" kick for the last few years, abandoning the moody drama crap I keyed in on for years. Hell, one of my favorite movies this year was "The Ruins". Loved it.

The *idea* and storyline of IJ 4 was very good. The execution of the film itself was appalling.

[SonicAlligator]

There's nothing wrong with being entertained and not seeking anything more, but why oh why do the people who enjoyed this movie have an ongoing need to tell the rest of us that we were wrong to expect something more of a series with a pedigree involving Spielberg, Lucas and Harrison Ford?

The same reason so many who did not enjoy it seem to have an ongoing need to remind the rest of us that do that it's garbage.

Touche.

[M_Rots]

God to know the rhetorical equivalent of a fifth grader answering "because" to every question now counts as a riposte.

[Rob Gordon]

This movie played at a theater here over the weekend. Couldn't make it. Doesn't seem to be in print. Can't even find it on youtube.

Dick van Dyke plays a guy who commits crimes to help raise money for a philanthropist, the big heist set for Christmas eve.
Barbara Eden's (Agent 99) first role.

Why is this thing not available?!

[Agrimorfee]

Wow. I never heard of that one. Note Composer "Johnny Williams", before becoming Spielberg's bitch.

[Mr.Nobody]

Les Enfants Du Paradis
I went into this expecting it to be a bore with it being three hours and all,But I liked a lot of this. I found the story to have a lot of well written monologues and some hilarious scenes. Also,all the pantomime stuff is absolutely stunning.A fine film.



My little sis wanted to see this so we rented it. This was my second time watching it and I just don't see where this film deserved to be up for as many Academy Awards as it was.The dialogue is ridiculous("Honest To Blog".C'mon nobody talks like that.)and the film is just to simple.J.K. Simmons is ok in it though.But,really I wasn't a big fan either time I watched it(It actually got worse on the re-watch.).

[petras]

First thing I thought after getting done watching Crystal Skull was that Spielberg didn't give a crap about it and was basically phoning it in. There is no way Spielbergs heart was into making it, and Lucas should never be allowed to write another line of dialog ever. That said it was still mildly entertaining some of the chase scenes were fun and i live right near where they filmed in New Haven so those scenes had an added level of interest.

[velocity]

There's nothing wrong with being entertained and not seeking anything more, but why oh why do the people who enjoyed this movie have an ongoing need to tell the rest of us that we were wrong to expect something more of a series with a pedigree involving Spielberg, Lucas and Harrison Ford?

The same reason so many who did not enjoy it seem to have an ongoing need to remind the rest of us that do that it's garbage.

But that's the point: It is garbage, given its pedigree. From any other filmmkers, it might get a higher grade, but it isn't from any other filmakers, and there isn't any other franchise name on it. Defending your enjoyment of it is one thing, but to do so by telling people their expectations were too high is inane. How am I not supposed to compare this to the others and find it wanting? How does that work?

But if you only think of 2 of the first 3 as popcorn flicks, as I do, you wouldn't have been disappointed by #4. If anything, I would've been surprised had it been any better.