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[swede]

and a general comment:
for all those whose comments involve the guitars sounding robotic, etc....
hope you dont endorse radiohead, postal service, or kanye west..

No shit.

Yeah, all music with electricity is the same. Good point.

Some keyboards sound rad, some of it sounds like stock piano from a hotel management training video.

kanye's songs sound like theyre being emitted from a robot's ass....
kid a (great album) has elements that couldve been created on an atari 2600.

[Campaigner]

Aren't you a Ryan Adams fan?

Most definitely. But that's got nothing to do with how insanely pathetic this album is.

The best thing I can say about it is that it's better than anything Velvet Revolver put out.

[MattDrufke]

More from that interivew:


"Let's be serious and set aside my personal issue with the man, and let's just pretend for a second I'm not in this business," Hughes said. "Sixteen f---ing years to make an album is an outrage and an abuse of the system. Who the hell does anyone think they are that they'll take 16 years to make a record?



...damn, a 22 page booklet?

http://newsroom.mtv....e-mtv-newsroom/

From that link:

One whole page was allotted to Axl’s many “thank you”s, which include shout-outs to Kid Rock, Avenged Sevenfold, Papa Roach, Weezer, Alice in Chains, CKY, Korn, Helmet, Hoobastank, Mickey Rourke, Billy Howerdel of A Perfect Circle, Lars Ulrich and the rest of Metallica, Donatella Versace and, of course, Sebastian Bach.

[Mitchell]

Ad hominem attacks from Montana. Hmm.

[Montana]

Aren't you a Ryan Adams fan?

Most definitely. But that's got nothing to do with how insanely pathetic this album is.

The best thing I can say about it is that it's better than anything Velvet Revolver put out.

But you own most of Ryan Adam's records. That guy is the biggest fraud in the music business.

Find a decent stereo, put on Chinese Democracy and turn it up loud.

[MattDrufke]

Incidentally, haven't give my thoughts yet on this record. Listened to it on the way to work, and then most of it again coming home. I don't think this is a piece of music I can listen to without knowing all of the backstory going into it. It's a fine record, boring in some spots, and a lot of fun in others. It's not an embarrassment or a trainwreck, but it's no masterpiece either. It's a decent rock record. And so, because of this, all I can think of when I listen to it is, "It took Rose this long to make this?" I'd much rather have something sound awful where you could say, "Dude took a chance, and man, was it the wrong decision!" That would've been fun. All in all, pretty meh.

[Campaigner]

Find a decent stereo, put on Chinese Democracy and turn it up loud.

I like my stereo too much for that to happen.

[Mr.Nobody]

I've been listening to nothing but this album since last night. Fantastic.

This album is a trainwreck, and not one of the ones that makes you slow down and look at it. It's a trainwreck that you want to get away from as fast as you can because someone's dismembered leg flew 100 metres to kick you right in the face for even being there in the first place.

Aren't you a Ryan Adams fan?

I love how your answer to every argument is Aren't you a (Insert Name Of Band Who I Hate) fan. Because one musical artist determines somebody's whole opinion on music.

Anyways, I'll probably pick this up just out of irony. I've heard some of it and most of it is pretty bad,But I think it might make a good comedy album.

[liquidheaven]

Aren't you a Ryan Adams fan?

Most definitely. But that's got nothing to do with how insanely pathetic this album is.

The best thing I can say about it is that it's better than anything Velvet Revolver put out.

But you own most of Ryan Adam's records. That guy is the biggest fraud in the music business.

Find a decent stereo, put on Chinese Democracy and turn it up loud.

Dude I'm excited for this album too but responding to every post... you're just being an annoying asshole.

[Montana]

"There Was A Time" is just monstrous.

[hinsey21]

i cant wait to hear this just a heads up for any vinyl collectors use your illusions 1 and 2 are being re-released on vinyl at the end of november...i will def be pickin those up

[M_Rots]

i cant wait to hear this

just a heads up for any vinyl collectors

use your illusions 1 and 2 are being re-released on vinyl at the end of november - your originals are now worth 75 cents on ebay.

[solace]

i think what this proves more than anything is how important the original lineups were to those great early records. this album draws a pretty obvious line in the sand that this is a totally brand new band, and for that fact alone it's a success. had this come out in 1998, i'd probably be a bit more forgiving, i'll fully admit that. it would have sounded a bit more fresh had it come out then. the problem is, while the album isn't nearly as awful as i'd imagined, there's also not a single song on here that i could honestly with a straight face say is among GNR's 25 best songs... in fact, the BEST song on this album doesn't even touch the worst song on Appetite (which is more a testament to Appetite's greatness than anything). look, this is a band whose first album was the very first CD i ever bought, and who worshiped from 1987 to 1994, but that band is not the band that played on this record, not even close. Axl was certainly a big part of what i loved about the original band, but not the biggest by any means.

[hinsey21]

am i missing something did this leak?

[Montana]

i think what this proves more than anything is how important the original lineups were to those great early records.

this album draws a pretty obvious line in the sand that this is a totally brand new band, and for that fact alone it's a success. had this come out in 1998, i'd probably be a bit more forgiving, i'll fully admit that. it would have sounded a bit more fresh had it come out then.

the problem is, while the album isn't nearly as awful as i'd imagined, there's also not a single song on here that i could honestly with a straight face say is among GNR's 25 best songs... in fact, the BEST song on this album doesn't even touch the worst song on Appetite (which is more a testament to Appetite's greatness than anything).

look, this is a band whose first album was the very first CD i ever bought, and who worshiped from 1987 to 1994, but that band is not the band that played on this record, not even close. Axl was certainly a big part of what i loved about the original band, but not the biggest by any means.

I think this is a complete piece of work though. I could easily put a few of these songs in their top 25. There is a lot of bombast, but underneath is a really tight, gritty rock record. I actually love the updated sounding hair metal ballads....it's almost like Axl is saying "I brought this style back and I don't give a fuck what you think". I find Chinese Democracy to be more consistent than YUI I and II, although the highs may have been higher on those albums.

This thing really is a grower.

Edit: "Better" and "Street of Dreams" are simply fucking amazing.

[Waterloo]

i think what this proves more than anything is how important the original lineups were to those great early records.

this album draws a pretty obvious line in the sand that this is a totally brand new band, and for that fact alone it's a success. had this come out in 1998, i'd probably be a bit more forgiving, i'll fully admit that. it would have sounded a bit more fresh had it come out then.

the problem is, while the album isn't nearly as awful as i'd imagined, there's also not a single song on here that i could honestly with a straight face say is among GNR's 25 best songs... in fact, the BEST song on this album doesn't even touch the worst song on Appetite (which is more a testament to Appetite's greatness than anything).

look, this is a band whose first album was the very first CD i ever bought, and who worshiped from 1987 to 1994, but that band is not the band that played on this record, not even close. Axl was certainly a big part of what i loved about the original band, but not the biggest by any means.

I think this is a complete piece of work though. I could easily put a few of these songs in their top 25. There is a lot of bombast, but underneath is a really tight, gritty rock record. I actually love the updated sounding hair metal ballads....it's almost like Axl is saying "I brought this style back and I don't give a fuck what you think". I find Chinese Democracy to be more consistent than YUI I and II, although the highs may have been higher on those albums.

This thing really is a grower.

Edit: "Better" and "Street of Dreams" are simply fucking amazing.

[HandBanana]

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[Simakos]

i think the bottom line here is that if this record was released by a brand new band in 2008 no one would even give it a second thought after hearing the opening seconds of any of it's songs. at least not anybody with halfway decent taste in contemporary rock music. this is garbage and it's kind of sad to think that the whole country is gonna make it huge. go get 'em Axl, everybody you hate loves your shitty music.

and hey, how come no one is talking about how funny the lyrics are? awesome stuff here... this guy is what, in his 40's and he's writing this crap? 17 years and these are the best lyrics he came up with?

also, a few pages back, people were talking about Slash. i love Slash's guitar solos of Appetite.

[Campaigner]

LOL at 'This is Love' being the song not good enough for the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

I'm trying hard here. There's a few charms creeping their way through and damn, 'Madagascar' would be halfway to being good if it weren't for all the speech snippets. Cool Hand Luke is like, soooo 1991 (and 1967 if you're getting picky)...

[Sickpup]

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klosterman is a world-class writer, but has always been a terrible music critic.