Pete Doherty - Flash in the Pan Deserves a Mandatory Time-Out


the UK authorities should sentence him to some form of mandatory, supervised rehab for 4-6 months. If he can't keep clean after that, then he should then be forced into the prison system.

What a pathetic loser. And quite honestly, the guy has never been worth much of anything as a musician. He's good newspaper/magazine fodder and as an example of how not to be as a celebrtiy, a musician, and most importantly, a person. Do us all a favor and overdose in the woods all by yourself, Doherty.

This is the third time this month. The guy has been to prison for 6 months in 2003. At the time I didn't think it was the right place to send a younf junkie. Not really much you can do, he won't be able to do community service. I'm sure he gets arrested a lot more as people know who he is.

I heard Dirty Pretty Things new single. It's better than anything Babyshambles have ever squelched out.

Dare I say he'll likely clean up, have a hit, die of an overdose and become the next fawned over dead before their time rock star.

what a douche!

This guy is fucked.

We should put together a Pete Doherty - Rest In Peace compilation and keep it handy. We can post it when he kicks.....
I think we'd better get started asap.

I wish I had YSI handy at work, but I'll vote for "I Get Along".

I don't know why anyone is suprised. I knew the 2nd time this guy got arrested he was a loser and needed serious help!

he's only 26?!? from the looks of things, i thought he was at least 30 or so.



and yeah, a Pete Doherty RIP Mix would be great.

finally, (and off topic), it's great to see two signatures in a row with Brian Sadowski quotes.

Doherty is 27 this year.


I'm just saying.

okay...

that would still make him 26 now.

edit: oh now I get it. The magic rock and roll age.

Hmm......

Dead at 27:

Jim Morrison
Kurt Cobain
Janis Joplin
Jimi Hendrix
Chris Bell
Robert Johnson (i think)


there are more, i'm sure

o rly

how old was bradly from sublime, and shannon from blind melon?

they were both 28

The fact that he is a worthless, piece of shit junkie doesn't change the fact that the Babyshambles record is pretty damn good.

take out those faux-reggae songs on Down in Albion and you've got a better album than Whatever People Say I Am ...

Dennes Boon
Brian Jones
Paul Kossoff (Free)
Tupac Shakur
Johnny Kidd
Jimmy McCulloch (Wings)
'Pigpen' McKernan (G. Dead)


If you include dying just before their 27th birthdays.

Gram Parsons
Nick Drake
Otis Redding

This is exactly the reason why he'll be dead in a year. Everyone keeps wanting him to produce and he has enough money to hire lawyers (or is it "barristers"?) to ensure he keeps the money mill going until he's dead and then he'll keep it going just like Biggie and Tupac and Kurt and Garcia and on and on.

Are you on crack too?

In other UK rocker news, I am really over the Arctic Monkeys and I've only heard one song. They're not doing anymore press?!?! Fucking assholes. No one will know who they are in two fucking years.

Gareth: What the fuck is going on with your rocker countrymen?

I agree. There have been plenty of good albums made by worthless, piece of shit junkies. People focus too much on Doherty and backlashing against the NME hype to listen to the music properly (it seems to me). Either that, or I'm seeing something nobody else is seeing, like one of those Magic Eye pictures.

admittedly, I have not heard the Babyshambles album, but I am really not into The Libertines' stuff all that much. It definitely is more hype than heat.

He doesn't have much money at all. That;s why early babyshambles gigs were organised via the internet and cash in hand. A lot of the money he has spent on trying to get clean and his stomach implant has come straight out of Kate Moss' purse.

Are all junkies "worthless piece of shit loser douches" or does that tag only pertain to this particular junkie?

The Monkeys not doing any more press for the moment might be one of the better moves they make. At this point, there's little they can say to refute the overarching critical fascination with their age. Why not let their music speak for itself after hype dies down? Do you really think, at this point, they want to be the biggest band in the world?

They didn't do much in the way of press here either. One interview for the NME, one for Radio 1. I don't think they are too bothered about US market at the moment. 12 months ago no one had heard of them, I see no need for them to have strike while the fire is hot.

It's not like America has had much of a shot at them. Plus, I know that they're really not NOT doing any press. They're just not being given to certain places. Their shit apparently doesn't stink. But you can guarantee if the Fork or RS or Spin wants 'em, they'll get 'em. Understandable, but I like it when people just are honest and say that we're only looking at major pubs for promotion.




Chronic ones like Doherty who would seem to thrive on the notoriety only.

no just this one....

my dad is cool

I'm always amazed when people who claim to love rock and roll are also Law and Order types. Who gives a shit if Pete Doherety gets arrested every day? Fuck Forever is a great single. That's all I care about.

Go back to church, tea totalers!

"Waiting for Pete Doherty To Die" by The Indelicates. It gave me a chuckle, and it's actually a pretty damn good song.

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You misunderstand.

I think he's musically talentless, overhyped as well as being a loser addict.

So there.

a "Shakin' All Over" cover for the comp would be great for all these junkie peeps.

I don't care if he gets arrested. I care that an-Ex Libertine released a piss weak song like Fuck Forever and he's in danger of killing himself.

To be honest, I don't know much about the guy. I can't say I've ever met an addict that "thrives" on their addiction intentionally. From what i've read, i've come to the conclusion that the guy is SERIOUSLY sick.

I guess we could argue forever whether it's a good song, but fuck forever.

And Brett's vitriol toward Doherty is truly mesmerizing. I mean, really. Is it jealousy?

From what I've read is that he thrives on his bad boy image. Yes, he's sick, but he's been given opportunities to change.

I understand this is a larger issue, and I know this is personal for you, but the guy's being allowed to kill himself because of the sensational nature of the UK press and the fans' attraction to his dangerous behavior.

It's sad that so many enable a person to ensure their meal ticket keeps cranking out the cash.

btw: I see the road dp's going down...I'm not. But I'm sure you'll still believe that I am.

HEY! This song is awesome! thanks!

Seriously, somebody needs to help Pete Doherty out. And the NME should feel ashamed of themselves for using Pete's drug use as a badge of honor and part of the Libertines package and "authenticity".

And oh yeah, the U.S doesn't care about The Arctic Monkeys. That's why they're doing SNL in two weeks.

I'm not going down any road. I'm truly baffled by your comments. There are lots of people out there more worthy of your diatribes. Pete's a fuck-up. So what?

Hmmm - interesting take, and one that i'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on. I don't know much about the UK press and or Doherty's fan base. But given what you stated, I think we can agree upon the fact that the guy is seriously sick, and watching the guy spiral to hell is the real tragedy here. It's really fuckin sad if you ask me.

Man, can't believe a thread on Pete Doherty has gone on this long.

man, he looks like this and goes out w/kate moss??

Of course Doherty was accoding to the NME the coolest rock star in the world in 2004.

From Wiki

Despite their success and critical acclaim (especially in the UK), the band fell upon difficult times. Pete Doherty became estranged from the band and was convicted of the burglary of bandmate Carl Barât's flat in September 2003. The remaining members toured without him in August and September. After serving one month in jail he rejoined the band in October 2003 at the legendary reunion gig at the Tap'n Tin in Chatham, supported by Cherubs and The Bandits. However, in June 2004 he was kicked out of the band again because of continued drug problems, but the band has promised that "When he cleans up his addictions he will be immediately welcomed back into the band"

On February 3, 2005, Doherty was arrested for assaulting documentary film maker Max Carlish in an Islington hotel and, despite protesting his innocence, failed to provide £150,000 bail by the agreed deadline and was briefly jailed. Magistrates imposed conditions on his eventual release, including a night-time curfew for all reasons except drug rehabilitation, and an escort from a private security firm at all times. The charges of robbery and blackmail were later dropped.

Doherty remains estranged from Barât, although they briefly met in April 2005 at the Boogaloo Bar, London, and keep in touch with telephone calls.

On July 2, 2005, He appeared at the Live 8 concert, in Hyde Park, London, performing the T. Rex classic, "Children of the Revolution", as a duet with Elton John. Several UK newspapers called his performance "shambolic" He later claimed the poor performance was a result of shock at comments made by Bob Geldof's daughter, Peaches. "Just before I went on stage, she whispered something rather suggestive to me. It left me in such shock I didn't know where I was. Bob Geldof has organised this amazing global event and [his] daughter has secretly made a pass at me. It's all I can think about. It did my head in. I didn't think Bob would be very happy." Bob Geldof's daughter strongly denied his allegations. He recently apologised for these comments in The Daily Mirror. In an interview with The Daily Mirror on August 4th 2005, Sir Elton John blamed his co-star's performance on nerves.

In July 2005 Doherty and Babyshambles were due to support Oasis on their UK stadium tour. They failed to turn up, however, and later claimed Doherty was unable to make his way from France on time, due to heavy drug use. . This led to Oasis guitarist and vocalist Noel Gallagher dedicating the song "The Importance of Being Idle" to Babyshambles.

On August 13, 2005, he was stopped in the airport customs at Oslo Gardermoen Airport, where customs officers found him to be in possession of a small amount of heroin. His band was originally booked to play at the Oslo-festival Øyafestivalen at 5:05 PM, but he remained in custody for three hours. He was released when the organisers of the festival paid the fine of 8000 NOK (693.118 GBP). When the band appeared onstage later than scheduled, Doherty was sick, and vomited after 20 minutes. He threw out a bottle of Vodka to the audience, and showed them his empty cigarette package, followed by the crowd throwing cigarettes to him. Because of the electricity being shut down at 11 pm, they couldn't play for more than 30 minutes.

On August 15, 2005, Babyshambles released their second single "Fuck Forever", which reached #4 in the UK singles chart.

On August 28 at Leeds Festival 2005, Pete Doherty was involved in an altercation with Razorlight singer and brief Libertines member Johnny Borrell. Reports suggest that Doherty had headbutted Borrell after their performance at the Leeds Festival, for reasons unknown.

Following a sold-out gig at Shrewsbury Music Hall, in the early hours of October 2, 2005 Doherty was arrested for possession of Class A drugs and held overnight. Babyshambles were forced to cancel a performance at the University of East Anglia as a result. Doherty protested his innocence

Doherty's manager James Mullord denied reports he'd sold the mobile phone footage of Kate Moss snorting cocaine at Babyshambles’ studio. Kate Moss barred Doherty from seeing her whilst she was in rehab.

On November 24, 2005, Doherty was admitted into the exclusive US rehabilitation clinic, The Meadows, also recently attended by Doherty's girlfriend, supermodel Kate Moss. Sources close to Doherty reported that he has undertaken this latest attempt at rehabilitation to win back Moss, as he has realised "his love for Kate is greater than his love of drugs."

Doherty checked out of The Meadows after just six days and was, in the early hours of November 30, 2005, arrested on the alleged possession of class A drugs after police stopped his car on Cleveland Road, Ealing, W13, due to the erratic manner of his driving. He was taken to Ealing Broadway police station and later bailed to return in January 2006 pending further inquiries.

On Sunday December 8 Doherty was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of drink or drugs.

On December 16 Doherty's former drug dealer, Owen O’Dwyer, pleaded Doherty to take a HIV test after a recent test came back positive for O'Dwyer. He claims he sold Doherty heroin for the last two years and injected Doherty with the Class-A drug. [

On the morning of December 18 Doherty was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol and drugs in East London. Doherty and three passengers fled, and a search of Doherty's car rendered substances believed to be heroin and crack cocaine. Having been arrested for possession of Class A drugs three times in three weeks, Doherty could face up to seven years in prison.

On January 11 2006 Pete Doherty pleaded guilty to the possession of heroin and cocaine at Ealing Magistrates' Court after being arrested by police after he was spotted driving a speeding car in west London on 30 November. He was released on unconditional bail and is due to reappear at Ealing Magistrates Court on 8 February. Doherty's barrister, Eamonn Sherry, was forced to apologise to the magistrates' bench after the singer arrived at the hearing more than an hour late, blaming traffic and press obstruction.

On the night of January 11 Pete Doherty and Babyshambles were scheduled for a sold-out gig in the Stoke Underground club. He kept the fans who turned up waiting for a long amount of time, as Pete is known to be late for gigs but he didn't show up in the end leaving many fans disappointed. The reasons for the no-show are currently unknown, although he had made a statement earlier that if any gigs were to be cancelled/re-scheduled it would be because of the drug possession arrests.

On January 14, Doherty was arrested again and was charged with driving under the influence and possession of Class A narcotics, heroin and cocaine.

On January 20, Doherty pleaded guilty to possession of heroin, crack cocaine, morphine and marijuana.

On January 25, Doherty was arrested twice, once at 5:40am for suspicion of possession of class A drugs after driving erratically in London, and for the second time (after being released from custody for the previous offence) at 3:00pm for being under the influence of class A drugs, where he was searched, and re-arrested, also in London. These arrests forced the postponing of the three remaining gigs in Newcastle, Leeds and Glasgow. However, as hardly anyone going to the Newcastle show knew about the latest arrests, a riot broke out among fans and two people were arrested. The judge refused bail and Doherty was remanded in custody until February 8th, for sentencing. The press speculated that he gave the judge the finger after being refused bail.

On January 30, Charges against Peter Doherty for driving under the influence were dropped due to lack of evidence.

On February 8 Pete Doherty escaped a jail term over seven separate drugs offenses.

The 26-year-old rocker, who had pleaded guilty to possessing heroin and cocaine at a hearing in January, was given a community order for 12 months, requiring him to attend a drug rehabilitation center and undergo monthly check-ups.

"You must submit to treatment with a view to ending your dependency on drugs," magistrate Ann McLaughlin told a disheveled and pale Doherty, who was dressed in a black jacket and white shirt.

Asked if he agreed with the sentence Pete Doherty replied: "I do."

On Febuary 14 Pete Doherty in an interview proclaimed he has quit drugs for good. "But I want to start a drugs-free life. I wasn't much of a junkie anyway."

On February 23, 2006 Pete Doherty recieved an NME award for sexiest male, he also performed with his band Babyshambles on the night.

On the evening of Monday February 27, 2006 Pete Doherty was arrested in Birmingham, along with two men from the Dundee area, on suspicion of stealing a car, reportedly in the London area, and possessing Class A drugs. The following morning West Midlands Police confirmed that the three men had been released on bail "pending further enquiries".



Fucking Vultures.

yes, so sexy.



srsly, wtf????

From the NME:




I don't get the coddling here. I honestly do not understand it at all.

Coddling? I don't know why the courts even care if nobody's being hurt (except Pete himself), but that's wher I am a Libertarian.

Anyhow, the UK has much more lax drug enforcement laws than the US. Their focus is much more on recovery than punishment. That, to me, is a more sensible way to deal with addiction. What good would it do anyone (besides Pete) to throw him in jail? His addiction has only gotten worse since his last stint.

Pretty much OTM here. What's your suggestion BH?

Well, let's see, he's been arrested a fair amount lately and still they find drugs in his system and commend him for doing "better."

He should be remanded into a long term rehabilitation facility, with psychological counseling to fully get him off of drugs. I'm being a humanist about this, I feel. I don't think he should be thrown in jail for a long time or something like that, but honestly, he can't just be allowed to fuck up "Less" and be commended for it.

The correct answer.

Well considering he was addicted to various drugs to an extent that he'd rob his own band mates and required a Naltrexone implant he is doing better, should he be applauded? No. It doesn't help when the NME decides to call him "The Coolest Person in the World" in 2004.

This appearance was realting to incidents that happened in December and he has claimed to be off drugs since January (I wouldn't be too shocked if the results were actually for Cannabis which is a class C drug in the UK.) I say, see how the court stuff realting to the carjacking arrest goes and hope that he can go a month without arrest.



happened twice before.

Nah, I doubt it. Junkies don't go from heroin/crack etc. to Cannabis to keep their fix "on the light side". It just doesn't happen that way. He's probably trying to minimize the dose of whatever he's on - and that never works.