HandBanana
Nov 13 2007, 02:08 AM
The Sheck
Nov 13 2007, 04:07 AM
Live is one thing. The records are another.
I'm about ready to write them off if the next one is a stinker.
BobtheSquid
Nov 13 2007, 08:31 AM
That new live album is pretty shitty.
Rob Gordon
Nov 13 2007, 08:56 AM
QUOTE(BobtheSquid @ Nov 13 2007, 08:31 AM) [snapback]505207[/snapback]
That new live album is pretty shitty.
The DVD is pretty unwatchable. The fast paced editing, shaky camera, grainy/distorted video...so hip...so nauseating
Hero
Nov 13 2007, 09:56 AM
i still surprise myself that i keep managing to buy REM records.
i listen to New Adventures in Hi-Fi more than their last few combined
There have been some sweet singles in the past "imitation of life"
but as a whole, they havent been consistent on the album front
i'll probably buy it anyways
ghostfromthepast1
Nov 13 2007, 10:02 AM
QUOTE(Hero @ Nov 13 2007, 08:56 AM) [snapback]505231[/snapback]
i still surprise myself that i keep managing to buy REM records.
i listen to New Adventures in Hi-Fi more than their last few combined
There have been some sweet singles in the past "imitation of life"
but as a whole, they havent been consistent on the album front
i'll probably but it anyways

Yeah, the last couple haven't been up to snuff. But the Dublin shows from this summer sound really good--better than they have in a long time. If I hadn't heard those tracks, I'd be a lot more skeptical about new songs. Having heard them, I expect a good album.
BobtheSquid
Nov 13 2007, 10:05 AM
To answer the question, no. Pretty sure Bill Berry's got all of their mojo stashed in his barn.
Nick
Nov 13 2007, 10:08 AM
Remember when Michael Stipe told everyone he was gay to try and sell more albums? Major LOLZ
Hero
Nov 13 2007, 10:14 AM
QUOTE(Nick @ Nov 13 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]505240[/snapback]
Remember when Michael Stipe told everyone he was gay to try and sell more albums? Major LOLZ
Remember everyone's reaction to that?
"....and?"
The Truth
Nov 13 2007, 10:19 AM
I clicked on a couple of the half-finished songs from the Dublin shows and they sounded cool. I was sure glad they are more guitar-led than anything they've done in more than a decade. Are they getting their mojo back? Hard to say. Maybe. The next album will answer that question. When is it coming out?
_______
Nov 13 2007, 10:36 AM
they really need to call it quits...
Dr. Johnny Fever
Nov 13 2007, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(The Truth @ Nov 13 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]505252[/snapback]
I clicked on a couple of the half-finished songs from the Dublin shows and they sounded cool. I was sure glad they are more guitar-led than anything they've done in more than a decade. Are they getting their mojo back? Hard to say. Maybe. The next album will answer that question. When is it coming out?
Spring '08. I read an interview somewhere that compared the new album to
Document. Looking forward to this one. I'm giving them one more chance.
petras
Nov 13 2007, 11:00 AM
All they have to do is lay these new tracks down and not overproduce them in the studio and the next album will be very good.
dice
Nov 13 2007, 11:35 AM
QUOTE
I'm giving them one more chance.
jeez. they make one shitty album after a great career and it's write-off time?
Angrimorfee
Nov 13 2007, 11:37 AM
QUOTE(dice @ Nov 13 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]505373[/snapback]
QUOTE
I'm giving them one more chance.
jeez. they make one shitty album after a great career and it's write-off time?
Only one?
Hero
Nov 13 2007, 11:41 AM
Up
Reveal
Around the Sun
i might like Reveal the most out of the 3....
but those are not on the level as Automatic, Monster, New Adventures
BobtheSquid
Nov 13 2007, 11:43 AM
Up is fairly underrated, actually.
Dr. Johnny Fever
Nov 13 2007, 11:46 AM
QUOTE(Hero @ Nov 13 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]505378[/snapback]
Up
Reveal
Around the Sun
i might like Reveal the most out of the 3....
but those are not on the level as Automatic, Monster, New Adventures
I actually like Up a great deal -- at least there they seemed to be taking Berry's departure as a reason to experiment and some of what they came up with was pretty cool ("Sad Professor", "Suspicion", "At My Most Beautiful") and the failures were at least interesting ones, but Reveal was mediocre and Around the Sun was awful. Another bad record would be precedent enough to stop caring about new R.E.M. output. I'll always love their earlier stuff, easily one of my all time favorite bands and a very important part of my middle school/high school years.
Hero
Nov 13 2007, 11:48 AM
I look good in a glass pack
I look good and mean
I look good in metallic sick wraparound blackout tease
I scud along the horizon, I drink some sweet tree tea
I get high in my low-ass boot-cut jean
I like being seen
I look good with my drink-eat-no-sleep, take-a-leap longevity
I get high on my attitude, latitude, 1973
I'm in deep
sorry, this song just got stuck in my head
esp the first line
Hans Christian Anderson
Nov 13 2007, 12:59 PM
i was listening to new adventures in hi fi last week, as my discovery of early 80s REM earlier this year has taken up the majority of the music i listened to in 2007. fine album, about 3-4 tracks too long. making it through that entire thing is a challenge.
Hans Christian Anderson
Nov 13 2007, 01:09 PM
funny, i just opened up an article in av club called "21 albums that could have made great EPs."
check out the first entry.
Pavement Ist Rad
Nov 13 2007, 01:14 PM
That Amnesiac one is awful.
UselessRocker
Nov 13 2007, 01:17 PM
QUOTE(Pavement Ist Rad @ Nov 13 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]505525[/snapback]
That Amnesiac one is awful.
Roughly about 85% of that article was awful.
Elemeno P.T.
Nov 13 2007, 01:17 PM
QUOTE(Hero @ Nov 13 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]505395[/snapback]
I look good in a glass pack
I look good and mean
I look good in metallic sick wraparound blackout tease
I scud along the horizon, I drink some sweet tree tea
I get high in my low-ass boot-cut jean
I like being seen
I look good with my drink-eat-no-sleep, take-a-leap longevity
I get high on my attitude, latitude, 1973
I'm in deep
sorry, this song just got stuck in my head
esp the first line
Hardcore love for this song...though the opening lyrics I mistook at first would have made it even better..."I look good in a gas mask"
registered bitch
Nov 13 2007, 01:18 PM
From what I've read I'm convinced that Peter Buck knows exactly what the problem was with the last two albums. Basically that they were over produced and that they didn't rock at all. If he continued to call the shots, and I think Mike Mills was with him too because apparently it was his idea to do the Dublin shows, then we could have a really good record. 9 weeks is all they spent recording it. If the producer knows what he's doing and can keep them from endlessly polishing everything, and Stipe can sing like he does live, we could have the best record they've done in ages.
The new material they tested out in Dublin was really great. Anyone who doubts it should go to youtube and search for "R.E.M. Living Well Is The Best Revenge."
Elemeno P.T.
Nov 13 2007, 01:19 PM
QUOTE(Hans Christian Anderson @ Nov 13 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]505498[/snapback]
i was listening to new adventures in hi fi last week, as my discovery of early 80s REM earlier this year has taken up the majority of the music i listened to in 2007. fine album, about 3-4 tracks too long. making it through that entire thing is a challenge.
Which tracks...I can't think of a single thing I'd change about this record (except the gas mask thing).
Hans Christian Anderson
Nov 13 2007, 01:20 PM
i dunno if i'd go that far, but there were some really questionable selections. 13? Urban Hymns (which i heard for the first time in years this week, and it's really quite good)? graduation?
some others, like at war w/ the mystics and new adventures in hi fi, i can really agree with.
and hoenstly, amnesiac would have been a great EP, and i think that article is somewhat right on. but i also love it as an LP and am glad that it ended up as one.
chocothunder
Nov 13 2007, 01:21 PM
There is some filler* on Hi-Fi, but it a very good CD. Making a fake ep of Hi-Fi and not including "Leave," "Wake Up Bomb," or "E-Bow" is a head scratcher.
*the instrumental track--though I like it
Elemeno P.T.
Nov 13 2007, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(UselessRocker @ Nov 13 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]505527[/snapback]
QUOTE(Pavement Ist Rad @ Nov 13 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]505525[/snapback]
That Amnesiac one is awful.
Roughly about 85% of that article was awful.
I'd say 90%.
Hans Christian Anderson
Nov 13 2007, 01:22 PM
QUOTE(chocothunder @ Nov 13 2007, 10:21 AM) [snapback]505537[/snapback]
There is some filler on Hi-Fi, but it a very good CD. Making a fake ep of Hi-Fi and not including "Leave," "Wake Up Bomb," or "E-Bow" is a head scratcher.
it's true. as per my original post, all hi fi really needs is about 3 tracks trimmed off.
fuck, AV club didn't even put "how the west was won..." on their EP, which is probably my favorite track on the album.
Elemeno P.T.
Nov 13 2007, 01:23 PM
QUOTE(chocothunder @ Nov 13 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]505537[/snapback]
There is some filler on Hi-Fi, but it a very good CD. Making a fake ep of Hi-Fi and not including "Leave," "Wake Up Bomb," or "E-Bow" is a head scratcher.
Or the majestic Low Desert.
Mitchell
Nov 13 2007, 01:35 PM
That article could do with being a pamphlet.
Dr. Johnny Fever
Nov 13 2007, 01:41 PM
QUOTE(chocothunder @ Nov 13 2007, 01:21 PM) [snapback]505537[/snapback]
There is some filler* on Hi-Fi, but it a very good CD. Making a fake ep of Hi-Fi and not including "Leave," "Wake Up Bomb," or "E-Bow" is a head scratcher.
*the instrumental track--though I like it
"Leave" is a great song that unlike later R.E.M. could have actually benefitted from more studio polish. Overall I like the soundcheck approach of the album, but that killer riff kind of gets lost amid all the din.
Hero
Nov 13 2007, 02:19 PM
QUOTE(Elemeno P.T. @ Nov 13 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]505535[/snapback]
QUOTE(Hans Christian Anderson @ Nov 13 2007, 01:59 PM) [snapback]505498[/snapback]
i was listening to new adventures in hi fi last week, as my discovery of early 80s REM earlier this year has taken up the majority of the music i listened to in 2007. fine album, about 3-4 tracks too long. making it through that entire thing is a challenge.
Which tracks...I can't think of a single thing I'd change about this record
(except the gas mask thing).
the EP article mentions leaving off "Leave"
i can't have none of that
the whole album is damn good
edit: just saw 54cermak's post.... quit spying in my mind!
Hans Christian Anderson
Nov 13 2007, 02:21 PM
right on. i think we're all on the same page then. the av club's track list isn't fitting.
the record still needs editing though
DrJimmy
Nov 13 2007, 02:35 PM
these days, i believe REM are just a touch past their prime, so i don't drive myself crazy second guessing whether their career is sitting still or if it's going to get up and stand again.
Elemeno P.T.
Nov 13 2007, 03:04 PM
QUOTE(Hans Christian Anderson @ Nov 13 2007, 03:21 PM) [snapback]505634[/snapback]
right on. i think we're all on the same page then. the av club's track list isn't fitting.
the record still needs editing though

Yet you still hold out on explaining where the edit should be...
Hans Christian Anderson
Nov 13 2007, 03:12 PM
i'd need to devote serious time to that question. and i don't really want to do it right now.
Limeinthecoconut
Nov 13 2007, 03:19 PM
QUOTE(DrJimmy @ Nov 13 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]505652[/snapback]
these days, i believe REM are just a touch past their prime, so i don't drive myself crazy second guessing whether their career is sitting still or if it's going to get up and stand again.
I'm green with circus envy over this post. Very clever.
Yes, I am expecting good things from the new studio album.
Music Saves
Dec 31 2007, 01:17 PM
REM Name New AlbumThe record will be out in April
REM have named their new album 'Accelerate'.
The band's 14th studio LP, the follow-up to 2004's 'Around The Sun', will be released in April.
The band worked on the album in Vancouver and Dublin with Bloc Party and Snow Patrol producer Jacknife Lee.
During their stay in Dublin last summer, the band played five sold-out ‘working rehearsal’ dates at the Olympia Theatre, previewing tracks from the record.
Confirmed tracks for the album include 'Until The Day Is Done', 'Living Well Is The Best Revenge', 'Mr Richards', 'Staring Down The Barrel Of Middle Distance', and 'I'm Gonna DJ', a regular in the band's set on their 2004/2005 world tour.
Frontman Michael Stipe said the guitar-driven LP is "the fastest we've made in 20 years".
He told Q: "I think the songs on 'Around The Sun' are great, but in the process of recording we lost our focus as a band. Now, that focus is back. And it's razor sharp."
HandBanana
Dec 31 2007, 01:47 PM
I love the song "accelerate" but as an album title, it seems a bit generic.
But I guess it could also be seen as a lean statement of purpose.
kingsleadhat
Dec 31 2007, 01:59 PM
Ugh, terrible title. Sounds like an "electronica" album from 1998.
They do enjoy one-word album titles though: Murmer, Reckoning, Document, Green, Monster, Up, Reveal. None really all that good, but that probably applies to most one-word album titles though. On the other hand, REM's multi-word titles have been fantastic. Is there a better title ever than Automatic For The People?
solace
Dec 31 2007, 03:04 PM
fyi, really good chance The National will be opening for R.E.M. here in the US in April
chocothunder
Dec 31 2007, 03:19 PM
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 31 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]541684[/snapback]
fyi, really good chance The National will be opening for R.E.M. here in the US in April
Wow! Good news.
The last four times I've seen them, these have been their opening bands:
Now It's Overhead (2004)
Sparklehorse (2003)
Wilco (1999)
Radiohead (1995)
I'd say they've made some good choices.
Hans Christian Anderson
Dec 31 2007, 03:29 PM
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 31 2007, 12:04 PM) [snapback]541684[/snapback]
fyi, really good chance The National will be opening for R.E.M. here in the US in April
omg omg omg omg omg! seriously these were my two "most listened to" bands of 2007 (i mentioned earlier in this thread that while i've had and loved AFTP and LRP for a while now, 2007 marked the year i got into chronic town and murmur). i realize that the sets will be considerably lacking chronic town and murmur tracks, but REM is one of those arena bands i
need to see before i die (file along w/ bob dylan, the rolling stones, springsteen, u2). considering that they're probably the most affordable of the bunch, and that they always choose
killer opening acts, they're probably the first of those 5 that i'll actually see.
wow, this is the best news i've heard in a while. wonder if the langderado date is the first "stop," of sorts.
who else has REM had open for them? I know radiohead did for the monster tour, and they wanted neutral milk hotel sometime in the 90s, but they declined. who else? band's got killer taste, they almost rival pearl jam in that department (sonic youth, my morning jacket, sleater-kinney, bob pollard, the buzzcocks and frank black on their most recent tours...). actually i think u2 picks pretty killer openers too.
HandBanana
Dec 31 2007, 03:31 PM
Dont be too sure.
On the Dublin sets they play alot of Chronic Town stuff.
Hans Christian Anderson
Dec 31 2007, 03:33 PM
oh my god i'd shit my pants if they played at least 1 chronic town song.
*pops in murmur to get even more excited*
HandBanana
Dec 31 2007, 03:36 PM
You being a Seattlite, you should have had a Buck sighting by now.
Hans Christian Anderson
Dec 31 2007, 03:43 PM
not yet, although i just officially moved here 4 months ago after only frequently visiting over the last 4 years. i was acutally under the impression that he didn't really live here full time anymore, in part because his ex-wife still does.
on that note, the club that they purchased together in the early 90s, the crocodile cafe, recently closed its doors. buck apparently hasn't had anything to do w/ the venue for years i guess, but his ex-wife, stephanie dorgan, was still the general manager. apparently she was doing a shitty job and and didn't give two shits about the venue, and ultimately was the one who decided to pull the plug entirely, despite the wishes of the employees or her relinquishing her GM duties. anyhow, it was a great place, good atmosphere and excellent sound, and an important player in the early grunge scene (benchmark shows from mudhoney, nirvana and the like..)
Hans Christian Anderson
Dec 31 2007, 03:47 PM
QUOTE(chocothunder @ Dec 31 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]541698[/snapback]
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 31 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]541684[/snapback]
fyi, really good chance The National will be opening for R.E.M. here in the US in April
Wow! Good news.
The last four times I've seen them, these have been their opening bands:
Now It's Overhead (2004)
Sparklehorse (2003)
Wilco (1999)
Radiohead (1995)
I'd say they've made some good choices.
QUOTE(Hans Christian Anderson @ Dec 31 2007, 12:29 PM) [snapback]541707[/snapback]
who else has REM had open for them? I know radiohead did for the monster tour, and they wanted neutral milk hotel sometime in the 90s, but they declined. who else?
i must be a fucking idiot. wilco and sparklehorse are definitely nice additions to their rosters, i don't know of now it's overhead.
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