The Sheck
Dec 4 2007, 01:09 AM
2/29 Cambridge, Ma / TT the Bears / 12am
With Thalia Zedek - Benefit For Jeanne Sheehy
http://www.ttthebears.com/1/25 Washington DC / Black Cat / 9 pm
www.blackcatdc.com
1/26 New York City / Joe's Pub / 7 pm
www.joespub.com
2/1 Minneapolis, MN / Seventh Street Entry
http://www.first-avenue.com/2/2 Chicago, IL / Double Door
http://www.doubledoor.com/
solace
Dec 4 2007, 01:10 AM
how awesome is it they're playing the fucking ENTRY????
all the sudden i'm not so bummed i had to miss them in '00 @ First Ave
The Sheck
Dec 4 2007, 01:11 AM
$15 it looks like. Still be worth it. No idea when they go on sale.
_______
Dec 4 2007, 01:20 AM
hell, i'll go.
biggie mcsmalls
Dec 4 2007, 03:22 PM
They were great the last time I saw them.
_______
Dec 4 2007, 03:28 PM
QUOTE(biggie mcsmalls @ Dec 4 2007, 02:22 PM) [snapback]520383[/snapback]
They were great the last time I saw them.
last time i saw them they opened up for My Bloody Valentine on the Loveless tour. i went to see Buffal Tom, never really knew about MBV until that nite. MBV were unbelievable, Buffalo Tom was just Buffalo Tom, solid little power trio as always.
i'm kind of excited for this.
edit: realizing now that i did see them twice after that first time. those were my stupid marijuana years.
maztrax
Dec 4 2007, 03:39 PM
I am so at that Double Door show.
sin city
Dec 4 2007, 03:41 PM
I saw them at Metro several years back- a band by the name of Dolly Varden opened for them. Seem to remember reading about them somewhere on the board...
Good show by both bands.
bunk
Dec 4 2007, 07:41 PM
Favorite band of all time.
Hero
Dec 4 2007, 07:44 PM
not really been a fan historically
but very impressed by the new album
HandBanana
Dec 4 2007, 07:48 PM
If you go to the NYC show, it is pretty much certain you will run into Jon Stewart there
kessler
Dec 4 2007, 07:56 PM
Kegger !!!
k
maztrax
Dec 4 2007, 09:36 PM
QUOTE(Hero @ Dec 4 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]520617[/snapback]
not really been a fan historically
but very impressed by the new album
Oh man if you like the new record how can you not like
Let Me Come Over
or
Big Red Letter Day
_______
Dec 4 2007, 09:57 PM
maztrax, i haven't even heard the new one. i take it i should give it a whirl?
maztrax
Dec 4 2007, 10:14 PM
QUOTE(simakos @ Dec 4 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]520712[/snapback]
maztrax, i haven't even heard the new one. i take it i should give it a whirl?
I gave the new one about 5 spins when I first got it and haven't gone back to it
yet. It didn't grab me like LMCO or BRLD did upon the first few listens. But I
must say I had "September Shirt" (I think it's the first single on the new record) in
my head all day today. Between that and this thread I am going to re-investigate
the new one and will report back.
_______
Dec 4 2007, 10:21 PM
cool, i'll wait to hear what you have to say. like everyone else around here, i have way too much new stuff to listen to lately...
solace
Dec 4 2007, 10:22 PM
Janovitz's solo record was pretty cool too
maztrax
Dec 4 2007, 10:22 PM
QUOTE(Mittens @ Dec 4 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]520614[/snapback]
Favorite band of all time.
easily in my top 10, maybe in my top 5
maztrax
Dec 4 2007, 10:24 PM
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 4 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]520737[/snapback]
Janovitz's solo record was pretty cool too
his record with Crown Victoria was good too
_______
Dec 4 2007, 10:30 PM
i'm spinning the s/t debut right now. i love this fucking band.
Birdbrain is next...
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 4 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]520737[/snapback]
Janovitz's solo record was pretty cool too
yeah, i have
Lonesome Billy. that's the only one, right?
QUOTE(maztrax @ Dec 4 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]520739[/snapback]
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 4 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]520737[/snapback]
Janovitz's solo record was pretty cool too
his record with Crown Victoria was good too
never got to hear this one...
solace
Dec 4 2007, 10:33 PM
i was thinking of Up Here, forgot about Lonesome Billy.
i think i've heard the Crown Vic one, not positive
maztrax
Dec 4 2007, 10:34 PM
QUOTE(simakos @ Dec 4 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]520744[/snapback]
i'm spinning the s/t debut right now. i love this fucking band.
Birdbrain is next...
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 4 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]520737[/snapback]
Janovitz's solo record was pretty cool too
yeah, i have
Lonesome Billy. that's the only one, right?
QUOTE(maztrax @ Dec 4 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]520739[/snapback]
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 4 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]520737[/snapback]
Janovitz's solo record was pretty cool too
his record with Crown Victoria was good too
never got to hear this one...
Whoa, I've never heard the S/T debut. Besides the new one I'll have to re-investigate Birdbrain, Sleepy Eyed and Smitten.
Big Red Letter Day is a fucking masterpiece if you ask me.
Skippy
Dec 4 2007, 10:46 PM
I'm in.
maztrax
Dec 4 2007, 11:28 PM
QUOTE(Skippy @ Dec 4 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]520754[/snapback]
I'm in.
Cool, Norton's in too.
_______
Dec 4 2007, 11:48 PM
man,
Birdbrain is one of my favorite songs ever.
QUOTE(maztrax @ Dec 4 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]520750[/snapback]
Whoa, I've never heard the S/T debut. Besides the new one I'll have to re-investigate Birdbrain, Sleepy Eyed and Smitten.
Big Red Letter Day is a fucking masterpiece if you ask me.
the self titled one is real muddy and dirtier sounding than all of the other ones, has some great songs. definitely influenced by J Mascis as producer. i forgot that it came out on SST, i'm looking at it now and it makes me feel old. you can buy it on amazon used for like 2 bucks.
any of you guys ever listen to
Cold Water Flat? it's Janovitz's brother's band, very similar to BT. pretty sure they were one of the last bands to record at Fort Apache Studios. seek it out...
_______
Dec 4 2007, 11:54 PM
here's a song called Impossible from the debut that sounds exactly like Dinosaur Jr, pretty sure that's Mascis soloing on it too:
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solace
Dec 4 2007, 11:55 PM
QUOTE(maztrax @ Dec 4 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]520750[/snapback]
Big Red Letter Day is a fucking masterpiece if you ask me.
easily top 10 of the 90's for me.
WesterMats
Dec 5 2007, 08:53 AM
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 4 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]520785[/snapback]
QUOTE(maztrax @ Dec 4 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]520750[/snapback]
Big Red Letter Day is a fucking masterpiece if you ask me.
easily top 10 of the 90's for me.
That ranking will not be denied by me.
biggie mcsmalls
Dec 5 2007, 09:38 AM
QUOTE(simakos @ Dec 4 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]520780[/snapback]
it makes me feel old.
She can't see, she breathes electricity
She's my enemy
kessler
Dec 5 2007, 09:50 AM
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 4 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]520785[/snapback]
QUOTE(maztrax @ Dec 4 2007, 09:34 PM) [snapback]520750[/snapback]
Big Red Letter Day is a fucking masterpiece if you ask me.
easily top 10 of the 90's for me.
I'm hardly a Buffalo Tom expert, but I've always understood that
Big Red Letter Day, while nice, pales in comparison to earlier records, like
Let Me Come Over and
Birdbrain. Kinda like their
Grave Dancers Union.
k
solace
Dec 5 2007, 09:59 AM
QUOTE(kessler @ Dec 5 2007, 08:50 AM) [snapback]520929[/snapback]
I'm hardly a Buffalo Tom expert, but I've always understood that Big Red Letter Day, while nice, pales in comparison to earlier records, like Let Me Come Over and Birdbrain. Kinda like their Grave Dancers Union.
right.
some people seem to think that, but i've always disagreed, even though Let Me Come Over was the first BT album I bought in '93, then BRLD shortly thereafter.
Let Me Come Over is my 2nd favorite behind BRLD, but Birdbrain sounds kinda shitty and just doesn't have nearly as great of songs for me.
i rarely tend to agree w/ the status quo though, like with Built To Spill, seems as though critically, most people tend to feel Perfect From Now On is their best record, but for me it's Keep It Like A Secret by FAR, with Nothing Wrong With Love a close 2nd and PFNO 3rd. most of my hardcore BTS fan friends like KILAS the best too though *shrug*.
kessler
Dec 5 2007, 10:13 AM
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 5 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]520932[/snapback]
most of my hardcore BTS fan friends like KILAS the best too though *shrug*.
You have a group of "hardcore BTS fan friends?!" So, when you're putting together a soiree, do you think to yourself, "okay, I need to make sure to invite our neighbours, Chad and Emma from accounting, the people I play bridge with, my fantasy football team ... oh, the BTS fans, and, hmm ... oh, there's the Wii people, too !"
k
solace
Dec 5 2007, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(solace @ Dec 5 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]520932[/snapback]
most of my hardcore BTS fan friends like KILAS the best too though *shrug*.
You have a group of "hardcore BTS fan friends?!" So, when you're putting together a soiree, do you think to yourself, "okay, I need to make sure to invite our neighbours, Chad and Emma from accounting, the people I play bridge with, my fantasy football team ... oh, the BTS fans, and, hmm ... oh, there's the Wii people, too !"
ok, friends who are hardcore BTS fans, for clarification.
kessler
Dec 5 2007, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(kessler @ Dec 5 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]520939[/snapback]
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 5 2007, 08:59 AM) [snapback]520932[/snapback]
most of my hardcore BTS fan friends like KILAS the best too though *shrug*.
You have a group of "hardcore BTS fan friends?!" So, when you're putting together a soiree, do you think to yourself, "okay, I need to make sure to invite our neighbours, Chad and Emma from accounting, the people I play bridge with, my fantasy football team ... oh, the BTS fans, and, hmm ... oh, there's the Wii people, too !"
ok, friends who are hardcore BTS fans, for clarification.
I guess I just find
Big Red Letter to be a little polished. I agree with you on
Birdbrain, it's a bit of a mess, though I'd say if I came to the party upon its release, at that age, I'd've loved it, I'm sure.
Big Red Letter just sounded a little too radio-friendly. No edge.
Let Me Come Over, now
that album had edge.
k
solace
Dec 5 2007, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(kessler @ Dec 5 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]520955[/snapback]
I guess I just find Big Red Letter to be a little polished. I agree with you on Birdbrain, it's a bit of a mess, though I'd say if I came to the party upon its release, at that age, I'd've loved it, I'm sure.
Big Red Letter just sounded a little too radio-friendly. No edge. Let Me Come Over, now that album had edge.
fair enough.
myself, i have nothing wrong with something sounding "radio friendly" a lot of the time as long as it's not overly glossy (which compared to a lot of 90's alternarock, BLRD doesn't sound THAT polished to me.)
polished or production aside, i just feel that the songs on BLRD are superior almost across the board, but i do love LMCO a lot. i even liked quite a bit of Sleepy Eyed too, which was even more "radio friendly" sounding than BLRD.
maztrax
Dec 5 2007, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(simakos @ Dec 4 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]520712[/snapback]
maztrax, i haven't even heard the new one. i take it i should give it a whirl?
I gave the new one about 5 spins when I first got it and haven't gone back to it
yet. It didn't grab me like LMCO or BRLD did upon the first few listens. But I
must say I had "September Shirt" (I think it's the first single on the new record) in
my head all day today. Between that and this thread I am going to re-investigate
the new one and will report back.
Returned to the new one (Three Easy Pieces) and gave it a spin. It's ok to good. If BRLD was an A+ and LMCO is
an A, then TEP is a B-.
maztrax
Dec 5 2007, 11:14 AM
QUOTE(solace @ Dec 5 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]520964[/snapback]
QUOTE(kessler @ Dec 5 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]520955[/snapback]
I guess I just find Big Red Letter to be a little polished. I agree with you on Birdbrain, it's a bit of a mess, though I'd say if I came to the party upon its release, at that age, I'd've loved it, I'm sure.
Big Red Letter just sounded a little too radio-friendly. No edge. Let Me Come Over, now that album had edge.
fair enough.
myself, i have nothing wrong with something sounding "radio friendly" a lot of the time as long as it's not overly glossy (which compared to a lot of 90's alternarock, BLRD doesn't sound THAT polished to me.)
polished or production aside, i just feel that the songs on BLRD are superior almost across the board, but i do love LMCO a lot. i even liked quite a bit of Sleepy Eyed too, which was even more "radio friendly" sounding than BLRD.
I always thought Sleepy Eyed had grittier production than BRLD.
solace
Dec 5 2007, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(maztrax @ Dec 5 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]520985[/snapback]
I always thought Sleepy Eyed had grittier production than BRLD.
they're both pretty glossy when compared to the first couple, but i haven't heard Sleepy Eyed in probably 5-6 years. i do remember that MTV was all over Summer for a while.
_______
Dec 5 2007, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(simakos @ Dec 4 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]520780[/snapback]
it makes me feel old.
She can't see, she breathes electricity
She's my enemy
my rank:
1. let me come over
2. big red letter day
3. birdbrain
4. s/t
5. sleepy eyed
6. that other one
HandBanana
Dec 5 2007, 01:11 PM
One of my favorite bands ever.
"Summer" makes you feel that end-of-summer feeling like no other song Ive ever heard.
Hero
Dec 5 2007, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(Hero @ Dec 4 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]520617[/snapback]
not really been a fan historically
but very impressed by the new album
Oh man if you like the new record how can you not like
Let Me Come Over
or
Big Red Letter Day
oops, didnt mean that i didnt like them
i just havent followed them
_______
Dec 5 2007, 06:20 PM
i can't stop listening to Buffalo Tom.
bunk
Dec 5 2007, 08:50 PM
Kessler: I am a self proclaimed BT superfan\expert\whatever. While LMCO over is the "critics" choice for best BT album, I bet the split between LMCO\BRLD amongst BT fans are pretty close (maybe 60/40 or even 50/50). Go start a thread on the BT or Bill Janovitz message board and survey the fans.
Anyway, Big Red Letter Day is my favorite album of all time. Sure there are some radio friendly tunes on there but that does not make it a lesser album for the TRUE fans or anyone for that matter. The band and album have a lot going for it. Janovitz is the best storytelling lyricsist of his generation, bar none. Also the hooks. Man the hooks. 11 songs in less then 45 minutes, all of them damn near hum or sing worthy.
Regarding Janovitz's solo albums, "Lonesome Billy" is the best of the two ("Up to Here" being the other). It is a great gritty, country tinged record. "Shoulder", "Girl's Club" and "Red Balloon" are definately worth checking out. His version of "My Funny Valentine" I could take or leave but the rest is damn great.
The Crown Victoria album is very good as well. If you liked Janovitz's songs on "Three Easy Pieces" then you will like this album.
bunk
Dec 5 2007, 08:51 PM
Oh yeah, check out their b sides compilation called Bsides. There are some great songs on there. "For all to see" (also on the No Alternative album is in my top 3 BT songs list for sure. So great.
The Sheck
Dec 5 2007, 09:46 PM
I remember an earlier British reviewer that ended a piece on BRLD by saying 'Buffalo Tom like to use short words that rhyme.'

Regardless, great band.
The Sheck
Dec 5 2007, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(Mittens @ Dec 5 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]521671[/snapback]
Janovitz is the best storytelling lyricsist of his generation, bar none.
I mean, I like 'em as much as anyone, but...wow.
HandBanana
Dec 5 2007, 09:52 PM
QUOTE(The Sheck @ Dec 5 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]521742[/snapback]
I remember an earlier British reviewer that ended a piece on BRLD by saying 'Buffalo Tom like to use short words that rhyme.'

Regardless, great band.
I love BT to death, but the first time me and my best friend heard "Taillights Fade" (our first exposure to the band), we loved the song and rolled the hell out of our eyes over the lyrics.
Sooooooo many groaners in that song.
_______
Dec 6 2007, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(Mittens @ Dec 5 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]521671[/snapback]
Janovitz is the best storytelling lyricsist of his generation, bar none.
I mean, I like 'em as much as anyone, but...wow.
ditto, i love 'em too, but this guy is not a lyricist at all. he's a rhymer.
maztrax
Dec 9 2007, 09:21 PM
Picked up tickets yesterday (when they went on sale) for the Double Door show. Got to think it's going to sell out.
_______
Dec 9 2007, 09:24 PM
does metro still sell double door tix?
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