I'm just bored. I'd appreciate it if you'd find the patience to play along with my stab at provocation.

The subhead is supposed to say "edgy and political," but the board cut me off.

For some odd reason my girlfriend is stoked about seeing this. She's been excited since the first trailer we saw months ago. Its usually not her type of movie, so I'm not exactly sure what the draw is for her. I'm pretty excited to see it too, so I'm sure I'll have more to report after this weekend.

This movie will not have a patch on the graphic novel. I will bet fifty bucks of Bickman's money that the nuances of the book will be abandoned for Natalie Portman's shaved head and painful-to-watch face.

I wish movie makers would just leave the graphic novel alone. Just because it's a big story with pitchers doesn't mean it's a shot for shot storyboard.

first review I've seen- "'C' For Vendetta"

i read a review in time magazine last week and i'm sort of excited to see this. i'm not sure why. i think it has something to do with the guy fawkes inspired lead character.

What's exciting about Guy Fawkes?

That's the point that everyone is going to miss. The original story was about anarchy. The movie's going to exploit the sensationalist end, revolution. But all of the right wing wags will read it as an endorsement or glamorization of terrorism.

What I've seen sort of looks like a glamorization of terrorism.

I'm sure it has already been discussed, but the dude looks like Jack White.

it's a childhood thing. when i was 13, i went to the york dungeon in england. it's a museum of medevial torture using lifelike scenes. anyway, they showed the guy fawkes torture scene and it sort of stuck with me.

The NY Times on Sunday covered the fact that Alan Moore despises DC & Hollywood for the way they've messed with his work. He not only wanted nothing to do with the project but refused to have his name associated even as story credit on principle. It's a first time director and the Trib gave it two stars. It's pretty obvious that it's lackluster at best but has that fancy neo-constructionist marketing campaign in it's favor despite what may or may not be on the screen.
I'll most likely wait for rental myself.

First time director who assisted Wochodes with The Matrices.

Well Alan Moore is kind of a nutjob, no matter how much of a genius he is.

does anyone know why this film was delayed from November to March? i have to wonder whether the producers actually tried to improve the film (unlikely) or if it was merely a strategic move to release it in a slow time devoid of big releases (more probable).

IMAX for me.......I'll do it next week when it dies down a little.

Considering what's out there right now, I suspect you're right. "Failure to Launch"? Puh-leeze.

"D" for DVD.

The story as a lot of subtle touches, and some really beautiful lines. But I'm sure that's going to be completely lost. MORE EXPL-O-SI-ONS.

& Tar Wers -AttaX o dee Klons

that makes perfect sense...although im sure it doesnt hurt that V is no longer competing with the likes of King Kong and The Boy Who Lived.

Attempting to kill nearly single MP in the country and most of the royal family is pretty exciting to be honest. Fawkes was also voted as the 30th greatest Briton of all time in 2002. Is it considered terrorism when it's a facist state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot

I might go see it tomorrow, depends on if anyone I know suggests it.

I don't care what they say, it was delayed because London blew up.

Edit: Oh, you've already been there.

It is terrorism when you don't agree with the politics of the bomber
It is a revolutionary or freedom fighter if you agree with the politics of the bomber

Maybe so, but the whole targeting innocent victims thing is something you have to take into account.

A sidebar in a recent Rolling Stone article about the Wachowskis verifies this.

Hmmm. Up for some BDSM later?

remember remember the 5th of november.

imax as well. let's see parliament blow up on the BIG screen. agent smith is the man behind the mask. guess i should've spoiler alerted that.

I've seen it (preview screening). It's a mixed bag but basically, it's Joel Silver taking his stab at a protest movie.

Heavy, heavy, heavy-handed political commentary that kicks the audience in the ribs, some cheesy and really hokey moments (they involve deep, emotional scenes - lots of snickering from the audience), lots of visuals lifted from other movies or just clichéd in general (Big Brother imagery, Portman standing in the rain with arms in the air - cue lightning bolt, etc.), and a God awful ending: STREET FIGHTIN' MAN? Probably Silver's choice, but read the lyrics, that's political ambivalence, NOT a call for revolution.

What's good? The look is good, the design is good, a decent cast, well done action scenes...all the things Hollywood can buy.

Moore had his name taken off the movie partially due to the swich in politics. Moore wanted Fascism vs. Anarchism, the producers wanted mean & nasty Neo-Con vs. warm & fuzzy American Liberalism.

Bingo. We sorta passed anarchy through the Red Scare filter of the 1930's. Suddenly Bolshies were Anarchists.

Found this great interview with Moore via the AV Club blog

To be fair, Moore's written his own share of cheese-ball material. Even the Watchmen (possibly the Citizen Kane of comics) has a hokey ending, the part where the cynical 'master plan' is explained. The same concept pops up again in V, it seems a wee bit juvenile.

Don't know if I'm excited to see it. But I'll still go. Looks like the type where you leave the theater and say to your friends, "Yea, it was okay. Let's go drink" then forget about it until you see a message board thread.

Yeah, but in The Watchmen, Veidt says "I did it thirty-five minutes ago", which to me is a kind of kick-in-the-nuts to that old cliche', and a great moment in the story.

Funny joke, there's a similar moment in V, except it isn't played for laughs (I don't want to give it away, so I'll just say it involves a syringe).

I actually thought the plan itself was hokey. You know, how Veidt was banking on the world to react a certain way to a false danger, and how that hoax was supposed to save the world.

You know that V tagline they got from Moore, "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of the people"? Sounds empowering, but stories like V and The Watchmen bank on the population acting like cattle - that is, acting predictably to whatever crazy stimulus is thrown at them. And I mean REAL predictable - there's always a master plan, and before the plan is executed, the man behind the plan tells you everything that's going to happen, how the people will think, what they will do, etc.

Honestly, the last few movies I've seen are Brokeback Mountain, Capote and Two Brothers. So really, I just want to see some shit blown up.

here is a bit of a surprise...V is actually a critical success (in the early stages at least). check it..."certified fresh" with a 69% as of 12:45AM on Fri, Mar. 17

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/v_for_vendetta/

and check the consensus- "Visually stunning and thought provoking, V For Vendetta's political pronouncements may rile some, but it's story and impressive set pieces will nevertheless entertain."

possibly not so bad after all...

I'm not excited. I rarely go to movies or much of anyplace else.

I have seen mention of this movie on some libertarian blogs.


http://blog.mises.org/archives/003876.asp

http://blog.mises.org/blog/archives/003982.asp

http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/2006_03.html linked to ===>>>

===>>> http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2006/02/the_red_and_the.php

I only recall two, possibly three explosions, with only two being substantial, but that's like two minutes of a two hour plus movie.

Try 16 Blocks or some shit like that. (Haven't seen them yet.)

I saw it tonight. It was pretty cool, although I have never read the comic book. I feel like a total n00b. But I borrowed it from my friend and its sitting right next to me now, waiting to be read over my delightful week off from school.

I went with a crew of people who have read the comic already. They said: "eh, it was as good as a comic turned movie could be." The major complaint was that there wasnt nearly enough anarchy in the film as there was the comic.

I am so looking forward to reading it

""V for Vendetta"
Posted by Butler Shaffer at 07:11 PM

My wife and I just got back from watching "V for Vendetta." WOW!! Not only is this the greatest anti-state movie I have ever seen - nothing else comes close in my mind - but one of the best films (regardless of content) I have seen. The acting is superb (especially that of the heroine); the production, script, and direction are marvelous. Even if this film had been about anti-vivisectionism it would be a great film.

This film far, far exceeded my expectations. It explores the dynamics of tyranny; how we are ruled by our own fears; and, . . . well, go see it for yourselves! "

http://blog.lewrockwell.com/

If he can't name the heroine as Natalie Portman, I don't care what he thinks.

Can I get a short list of "anti-state movies," plz.

Gone with the Wind
Gettysburg
Glory

You've out clevered me. Why would you call those anti-state? Because they're about the US Civil War?

Brazil
Fight Club?

I don't know much about this movie other than I keep seeing it mentioned on Mises Institute's websites.





Films on Liberty and the State

http://www.mises.org/content/film.asp



I don't know how good this list is, but that's what they have.

No. Because they all start with the letter "G."

I enjoyed it! I can't say whether I "agree" or "disagree" with its message, or just what that message was, exactly. Only time will tell how it will sit with me.

Not a lot of gun porn in this. Lots of knife porn, though.

From the Rolling Stone review:

I'm pretty sure there was no Velvet Underground music in this movie.