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killerparties
QUOTE (cerebralcaustic @ Mar 5 2009, 11:29 PM) *
So no sign of Rose or Bernard during those 3 years. I ask this every week, but what the fuck happened to them? And the other 815ers that became Others?


You know that the story of what Rose and Bernard have been up to will not only be amazing, but will reveal huge secrets of the island that no other character will ever discover.

That's how Lost does things.
petras
QUOTE (killerparties @ Mar 6 2009, 02:08 AM) *
QUOTE (cerebralcaustic @ Mar 5 2009, 11:29 PM) *
So no sign of Rose or Bernard during those 3 years. I ask this every week, but what the fuck happened to them? And the other 815ers that became Others?


You know that the story of what Rose and Bernard have been up to will not only be amazing, but will reveal huge secrets of the island that no other character will ever discover.

That's how Lost does things.


That's what i'm thinking, we'll get a Rose/Bernard episode that shows what happened to them during the flashes and that will be the set up for the endgame of the whole season i'm thinking.
Or maybe they just bitched at each other for awhile and ate some mangos....one of the two.
faraway
QUOTE (cerebralcaustic @ Mar 5 2009, 10:29 PM) *
So no sign of Rose or Bernard during those 3 years. I ask this every week, but what the fuck happened to them? And the other 815ers that became Others?



My guess: Rose and Bernard went to live in the caves. They were the skeletons that the losties found in the first season, "Adam and Eve".
b*derty
QUOTE (farawaysoclose @ Mar 6 2009, 05:49 AM) *
QUOTE (cerebralcaustic @ Mar 5 2009, 10:29 PM) *
So no sign of Rose or Bernard during those 3 years. I ask this every week, but what the fuck happened to them? And the other 815ers that became Others?



My guess: Rose and Bernard went to live in the caves. They were the skeletons that the losties found in the first season, "Adam and Eve".

if only we were that lucky

i remember before there was all this time traveling people always thought that adam and eve might be (somehow) jack and kate
the more and more this show progresses the more possible this becomes.
b*derty
found this just now really brings it all together nice and neat.

QUOTE
Just for curiosity's sake, I constructed a timeline based upon years indicated in all the episodes up to "LaFleur", and sure enough, I discovered an unmistakable pattern that closely resembled a certain set of digits. To wit.....

1954: Left-behinds w/Locke arrive and encounter Richard, young Charles Widmore and - presumably, young Eloise as a result of Ben's turning the FDW, their behavior influenced by a very dangerous and unstable atomic bomb....

1958: John Locke is born (now part of different timeline?)

1962: Benjamin Linus is born outside Portland OR

1966: Events yet to be revealed?

1970: DHARMA Initiative officially begins

1974: Left-behinds arrive WITHOUT Locke; young Ben also arrives (?)

1977: Oceanic 5 arrive and encounter first Jin, then Sawyer as LaFleur

1980: 'The Incident' occurred? Remember, the Orientation videos all
had a copyrighted date of 1980 and reference is made to it in
Swan Station video.....

1984: Events yet to be revealed?

1988: Jin washes ashore and encounters younger Danielle w/French
science team before finally flashing back out of that time
period for good.....

1992: The Purge; Ben takes over as leader of the Others.....

1996: Desmond flashes back to London after turning the Swan failsafe
key and encounters Charlie.....

2000: Desmond crashes on island late in the year (shortly after
summer starts in the Southern Hemisphere, when a solo boat race
would be held) and is rescued by Inman; actually a bit OVER 3
years.....

2004: Oceanic 815 crashes in water off island due to Desmond's being
lured away from Swan hatch by Inman in Charles' attempt to
thwart Ben's plans (hence the runway being built on Hydra
Island and, isn't it interesting that Ajira 316 landed
there instead.....) Locke forces Desmond into turning the
failsafe key; Oceanic 6 leave the island

2005: Ben lands in Tunisia, now appearing to be an exit point from
the island

2008: Ben, the corpse of Locke, Caesar, Frank, Illana and Lapidus
crash on Hydra Island in Ajira 316 while the Oceanic 5 -
presumably all of them except for Sun, who appears to be with
Frank - land in 1977 and stay there as a result of Locke
stabilizing the FDW when he returns to the outside world.....

Now you may have noticed that, with the exception of those time spans between 1977-1980 & 2005-2008, these are FOUR-year intervals (not counting the start year) and of course all the Numbers except for 23 and 42 are multiples of 4 - with that in mind, there are exact intervals of 4, 8, 12 and 16 years between the events listed, with one very noteworthy exception - 1977, but if we add 23 to a presumed starting point of 1954, that is precisely what we get, and if we add 42 to that same baseline year, we get 1996.....

Coincidence?
Theory by ogam5
http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/
nagode
QUOTE (b*derty @ Mar 6 2009, 08:37 AM) *
found this just now really brings it all together nice and neat.

QUOTE
Just for curiosity's sake, I constructed a timeline based upon years indicated in all the episodes up to "LaFleur", and sure enough, I discovered an unmistakable pattern that closely resembled a certain set of digits. To wit.....

1954: Left-behinds w/Locke arrive and encounter Richard, young Charles Widmore and - presumably, young Eloise as a result of Ben's turning the FDW, their behavior influenced by a very dangerous and unstable atomic bomb....

1958: John Locke is born (now part of different timeline?)

1962: Benjamin Linus is born outside Portland OR

1966: Events yet to be revealed?

1970: DHARMA Initiative officially begins

1974: Left-behinds arrive WITHOUT Locke; young Ben also arrives (?)

1977: Oceanic 5 arrive and encounter first Jin, then Sawyer as LaFleur

1980: 'The Incident' occurred? Remember, the Orientation videos all
had a copyrighted date of 1980 and reference is made to it in
Swan Station video.....

1984: Events yet to be revealed?

1988: Jin washes ashore and encounters younger Danielle w/French
science team before finally flashing back out of that time
period for good.....

1992: The Purge; Ben takes over as leader of the Others.....

1996: Desmond flashes back to London after turning the Swan failsafe
key and encounters Charlie.....

2000: Desmond crashes on island late in the year (shortly after
summer starts in the Southern Hemisphere, when a solo boat race
would be held) and is rescued by Inman; actually a bit OVER 3
years.....

2004: Oceanic 815 crashes in water off island due to Desmond's being
lured away from Swan hatch by Inman in Charles' attempt to
thwart Ben's plans (hence the runway being built on Hydra
Island and, isn't it interesting that Ajira 316 landed
there instead.....) Locke forces Desmond into turning the
failsafe key; Oceanic 6 leave the island

2005: Ben lands in Tunisia, now appearing to be an exit point from
the island

2008: Ben, the corpse of Locke, Caesar, Frank, Illana and Lapidus
crash on Hydra Island in Ajira 316 while the Oceanic 5 -
presumably all of them except for Sun, who appears to be with
Frank - land in 1977 and stay there as a result of Locke
stabilizing the FDW when he returns to the outside world.....

Now you may have noticed that, with the exception of those time spans between 1977-1980 & 2005-2008, these are FOUR-year intervals (not counting the start year) and of course all the Numbers except for 23 and 42 are multiples of 4 - with that in mind, there are exact intervals of 4, 8, 12 and 16 years between the events listed, with one very noteworthy exception - 1977, but if we add 23 to a presumed starting point of 1954, that is precisely what we get, and if we add 42 to that same baseline year, we get 1996.....

Coincidence?
Theory by ogam5
http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/


do we know when richard alpert arrives to the island?
biggie mcsmalls
QUOTE (nagode @ Mar 6 2009, 10:21 AM) *
do we know when richard alpert arrives to the island?



No.

My guess: With the Black Rock.
b*derty
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 10:33 AM) *
QUOTE (nagode @ Mar 6 2009, 10:21 AM) *
do we know when richard alpert arrives to the island?



No.

My guess: With the Black Rock.

my guess is before that.
i bet some of the other dont age either and that they are from the island since the start.
and other others have joined them from other crashes (black rock...) and later from dharma exiles.
biggie mcsmalls
He is kind of Egyptian looking with the eye liner, isn't he?

I only link him to the Black Rock because of the frilly pirate shirt he was wearing when he meets young Master Linus. It's odd that when Locke meets him in the 50s that Richard is wearing his standard shirt and slacks outfit.
b*derty
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 10:24 AM) *
He is kind of Egyptian looking with the eye liner, isn't he?

I only link him to the Black Rock because of the frilly pirate shirt he was wearing when he meets young Master Linus. It's odd that when Locke meets him in the 50s that Richard is wearing his standard shirt and slacks outfit.

i think the shabby stuff he wears is a costume to make him look like a hermit to ben so that he is a stark contrast to what is at dharma
just like the fake beard and other things the others wear
nagode
QUOTE (b*derty @ Mar 6 2009, 12:09 PM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 10:24 AM) *
He is kind of Egyptian looking with the eye liner, isn't he?

I only link him to the Black Rock because of the frilly pirate shirt he was wearing when he meets young Master Linus. It's odd that when Locke meets him in the 50s that Richard is wearing his standard shirt and slacks outfit.

i think the shabby stuff he wears is a costume to make him look like a hermit to ben so that he is a stark contrast to what is at dharma
just like the fake beard and other things the others wear


do you think maybe richard is just constantly time traveling which is why he never ages?

also i read that richard alpert = RA = Egyptian Sun god
b*derty
QUOTE (nagode @ Mar 6 2009, 11:11 AM) *
QUOTE (b*derty @ Mar 6 2009, 12:09 PM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 10:24 AM) *
He is kind of Egyptian looking with the eye liner, isn't he?

I only link him to the Black Rock because of the frilly pirate shirt he was wearing when he meets young Master Linus. It's odd that when Locke meets him in the 50s that Richard is wearing his standard shirt and slacks outfit.

i think the shabby stuff he wears is a costume to make him look like a hermit to ben so that he is a stark contrast to what is at dharma
just like the fake beard and other things the others wear


do you think maybe richard is just constantly time traveling which is why he never ages?

also i read that richard alpert = RA = Egyptian Sun god

i could see him being a time traveler.
and since he time travels all the time he doesnt have time to lead the group so thats why he has charles and ben and locke
biggie mcsmalls
I think Richard never ages because he is dead.
b*derty
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 01:05 PM) *
I think Richard never ages because he is dead.

he doesnt seem to interact with much does he?

(i'll wait a few minutes for examples of him shooting guns or something. but i dont remember him doing that)
biggie mcsmalls
Remember Ben asking him if he remembered what it is like to have birthdays?

petras
QUOTE (b*derty @ Mar 6 2009, 02:10 PM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 01:05 PM) *
I think Richard never ages because he is dead.

he doesnt seem to interact with much does he?

(i'll wait a few minutes for examples of him shooting guns or something. but i dont remember him doing that)


I remember him handing a file folder to locke in the episode where locke was told by Ben to kill his father. And he used the controls of a slide projector when they were recruiting Juliette. Not saying he's not dead though....anythings possible on this show. I am curious why he's not the man in charge, i'm sure there's a good reason for it....maybe he is permanently unstuck in time, who knows.


biggie mcsmalls
With what we know of Locke interacting with Richard in the past, the evidence actually points to Richard being quite "normal" in terms of time. There is really nothing other than his agelessness that indicates otherwise.

I think that he is similar to Christian Shepard or reborn John Locke.
b*derty
has this been talked about yet?:
sonic weapon fence?
rock pop all about lost
http://www.sonicweaponfence.com/
i went to college with the two singers in the group.
its a chicago act
songs:
mixed signals
lost nutrition
magic box
and 'offensive nicknames'
and theres a new song up on their myspace page about keamy too
tjenz
When we get to see the front of the four toed statue, I'll be surprised if it doesn't have Richard's face
faraway
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 01:18 PM) *
With what we know of Locke interacting with Richard in the past, the evidence actually points to Richard being quite "normal" in terms of time.


Yes, he seemed genuinely confused about the whole concept when mentioned Locke was talking to him about time travel to him in the 50's, as well as with Sawyer last episode. No way he's a time traveler.
biggie mcsmalls
QUOTE (TJENZ @ Mar 7 2009, 07:22 AM) *
When we get to see the front of the four toed statue, I'll be surprised if it doesn't have Richard's face



I think it will be Claire.
petras
QUOTE (farawaysoclose @ Mar 7 2009, 11:11 AM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 01:18 PM) *
With what we know of Locke interacting with Richard in the past, the evidence actually points to Richard being quite "normal" in terms of time.


Yes, he seemed genuinely confused about the whole concept when mentioned Locke was talking to him about time travel to him in the 50's, as well as with Sawyer last episode. No way he's a time traveler.


Maybe he thought he was the only time traveler and his confusion was because suddenly some new time traveler guy (locke) showed up. So far we also assume Richard is usually truthful but he does hang with Ben so it's not outside the realm of possibility that Richard has lots of lies and secrets.
kingsleadhat
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 7 2009, 10:34 AM) *
QUOTE (TJENZ @ Mar 7 2009, 07:22 AM) *
When we get to see the front of the four toed statue, I'll be surprised if it doesn't have Richard's face



I think it will be Claire.

This idea that the 815ers are the ones who originally "seed" the island is getting pretty popular. Can't say I'm a fan. It's hokey. It seems too much of a left turn--even for this show--and it doesn't really address or explain anything that we've seen so far. "How did people end up on the island" is a much smaller question than "What is the island".

That said, Claire being the statue would be a neat reveal, given that she's the mother of Aaron and has completely disappeared for almost a season now. Even if she has 10 toes....or does she? Have we seen her feet before? wink.gif
biggie mcsmalls
I was just kidding.

I think the statue will have the hippo face, like the Egyptian god.
faraway
I'm interested in the original habitants are the seed of the 815ers theory because it plays into the Oceanic survivors are important idea. I think the Jack and Locke convo from two weeks ago hinted at this.

I think it would be cool if it turns out all of the crazy stuff that happens on the island happens because they crashed on there. It might also explain why the O6 had to come back.
killerparties
QUOTE (b*derty @ Mar 6 2009, 02:10 PM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 6 2009, 01:05 PM) *
I think Richard never ages because he is dead.

he doesnt seem to interact with much does he?

(i'll wait a few minutes for examples of him shooting guns or something. but i dont remember him doing that)


I hate to do this, but Richard totally shot Kemey in the back while he was wresting with sayid.

edit: and as far as other physical interactions, he just recently patched Locke's leg up after he was shot by Ethan.

(Fun fact, Ethan has been in every subsequent season of Lost [w/ the exception of season 2] despite being the first major onscreen death. In fact, he has appeared in more episodes after his season 1 death than before.)
pong
Richard is like Jack Torrence. He has "always been the caretaker". Spoken in an English accent.
biggie mcsmalls
I don't think that Richard interacting with people means anything with regards to him being dead. Locke and Christian Shepard interact with people, too.
killerparties
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 7 2009, 04:24 PM) *
I don't think that Richard interacting with people means anything with regards to him being dead. Locke and Christian Shepard interact with people, too.


I completely agree. I was just pointing out the flaws in the notion that he can't physically interact with the world.

My theory is that Richard is the original Other, in that he crashed on the island and was accepted into it, rather than "purged." I think his seeming agelessness might have something to do with that well that Locke went down. If that well leads directly to the Donkey Wheel room, then imagine what properties the water from that well would have. Sort of a fountain of youth, if you will.

We've also seen that the well had not been built in the island's very ancient days, so we can only assume that someone built the well long after the folks who built the Statue were gone. Maybe Richard's people (The Black Rock crew?) built the well and discovered immortality?
Bob Loblaw
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 7 2009, 11:59 AM) *
I was just kidding.

I think the statue will have the hippo face, like the Egyptian god.



You really think Hurley's face will be on the statue?
killerparties
QUOTE (Bob Loblaw @ Mar 7 2009, 08:10 PM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 7 2009, 11:59 AM) *
I was just kidding.

I think the statue will have the hippo face, like the Egyptian god.



You really think Hurley's face will be on the statue?


bah dum bum ching.

(that is my impression of a "high hat", in case it's not clear.)

+++

I definitely think that one of the 815ers, or possibly one of their children, will end up being the origin of life on the island. I mean, thematically, it fits in with the notion that the 815ers were "doomed" to crash because "what has happened has already happened." Because they crashed on the island...they end up crashing on the island.
pong
I personally don't think it's going to be anything complicated like one of the 815ers being born in a cosmic time loop. I think everyone is going to meet at the proper present and there is going to be a large war between good and evil. The writers said from the beginning there was going be a cliffhanger of sorts with an "emperor-like character" from Star Wars being revealed as behind the curtain in this final battle.

Somebody like Penny, or some other character: is going to emerge as the leader of evil in some unexpected way.

Richard could be dead, because I think that Claire is also dead. But, by that theory, so is Locke right now.
biggie mcsmalls
QUOTE (pong @ Mar 7 2009, 09:23 PM) *
I think everyone is going to meet at the proper present and there is going to be a large war between good and evil.



I agree. I currently feel that all the key players need to be present to prevent "the incident" from occurring. Or to at least alter the outcome.
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 8 2009, 08:12 AM) *
QUOTE (pong @ Mar 7 2009, 09:23 PM) *
I think everyone is going to meet at the proper present and there is going to be a large war between good and evil.



I agree. I currently feel that all the key players need to be present to prevent "the incident" from occurring. Or to at least alter the outcome.


Perhaps, but in the first season when fans and critics alike floated the theory that the island was Purgatory, Lindelof was rather dismissive, saying something to the effect of, "I'd hope we could do something better than that."

Both he and Cuse seem dedicated to a resolution that defies easy convention, and surely a war between good and evil is about as easy and conventional as it gets.
MattDrufke
QUOTE (killerparties @ Mar 7 2009, 03:02 PM) *
(Fun fact, Ethan has been in every subsequent season of Lost [w/ the exception of season 2] despite being the first major onscreen death. In fact, he has appeared in more episodes after his season 1 death than before.)



...and the dude is Tom Cruise's cousin or something like that.
pong
QUOTE (M_Rots @ Mar 8 2009, 09:01 AM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 8 2009, 08:12 AM) *
QUOTE (pong @ Mar 7 2009, 09:23 PM) *
I think everyone is going to meet at the proper present and there is going to be a large war between good and evil.



I agree. I currently feel that all the key players need to be present to prevent "the incident" from occurring. Or to at least alter the outcome.


Perhaps, but in the first season when fans and critics alike floated the theory that the island was Purgatory, Lindelof was rather dismissive, saying something to the effect of, "I'd hope we could do something better than that."

Both he and Cuse seem dedicated to a resolution that defies easy convention, and surely a war between good and evil is about as easy and conventional as it gets.


While I could agree with this, I'd say that my vision of the "war between good and evil" was'nt conventional. And, I'd even say it's going to be a cliffhanger with surprises. Plus, I am not so sure that the lines between good and evil could be more blurred than they currently are in LOST.
b*derty
QUOTE (MattDrufke @ Mar 8 2009, 08:18 AM) *
QUOTE (killerparties @ Mar 7 2009, 03:02 PM) *
(Fun fact, Ethan has been in every subsequent season of Lost [w/ the exception of season 2] despite being the first major onscreen death. In fact, he has appeared in more episodes after his season 1 death than before.)



...and the dude is Tom Cruise's cousin or something like that.

yep and he's a native of louisville.
and was in glengarry glen ross at actors' theatre here in louisville
my girlfriend hates him since she had to totally redo a project because of him,
but from what i saw of him from the opening night party he seemed like a real good guy.


what if ethan is the baby? is that possible he could possibly be young enough
Angrimorfee
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 8 2009, 08:12 AM) *
QUOTE (pong @ Mar 7 2009, 09:23 PM) *
I think everyone is going to meet at the proper present and there is going to be a large war between good and evil.



I agree. I currently feel that all the key players need to be present to prevent "the incident" from occurring. Or to at least alter the outcome.


It will be a short war, not a large one.

If it hasn't already been said, this was the best Sawyer episode I can remember. (and a lovely "holy shit" when we met little Charlotte to boot)
Bob Loblaw
QUOTE (Agrimorfee @ Mar 9 2009, 05:30 PM) *
QUOTE (biggie mcsmalls @ Mar 8 2009, 08:12 AM) *
QUOTE (pong @ Mar 7 2009, 09:23 PM) *
I think everyone is going to meet at the proper present and there is going to be a large war between good and evil.



I agree. I currently feel that all the key players need to be present to prevent "the incident" from occurring. Or to at least alter the outcome.


It will be a short war, not a large one.

If it hasn't already been said, this was the best Sawyer episode I can remember. (and a lovely "holy shit" when we met little Charlotte to boot)



We met young Charlotte last season, didn't we? Isn't that Annie? It was pretty widely speculated that the two were the same person.
Nixon
Dude fuck comcast.net in the throat. Nowadays you pretty much have to actively avoid spoilers on the internet, but when a fucking news site has a front page headline "Lost Facing Major Loss!" with someone's picture, fuck the internet age.

Could be an overreaction, as I obviously did not read the article.
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
Yep - you totally overreacted. Evangeline Lilly is not leaving the show, according to the article. The death will be of a major player, but no details are given in the article as to whom it will be. And that really isn't a surprise, anyway. It was about time for someone else to get killed off.
Nixon
QUOTE (M_Rots @ Mar 12 2009, 12:55 AM) *
Yep - you totally overreacted. Evangeline Lilly is not leaving the show, according to the article. The death will be of a major player, but no details are given in the article as to whom it will be. And that really isn't a surprise, anyway. It was about time for someone else to get killed off.


Well you can understand my conclusion, right? Plus now I know Kate doesn't die. SPOILERS WITHIN NON-SPOILERS ARRRRGHHH. (I watch tv in pitch black soundproofed rooms with a tinfoil hat on.)
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
Someone recently said words to the effect that "spoilers" are just something for the overprivileged to whine about. I agree. Especially as a fan of LOST - I bought the ticket; I'm taking the ride. Knowing there's a big loop-de-loop coming down the track doesn't bother me. I'm having too much fun to care.
Nixon
QUOTE (M_Rots @ Mar 12 2009, 01:07 AM) *
Someone recently said words to the effect that "spoilers" are just something for the overprivileged to whine about. I agree. Especially as a fan of LOST - I bought the ticket; I'm taking the ride. Knowing there's a big loop-de-loop coming down the track doesn't bother me. I'm having too much fun to care.


Really man? If someone from the future was like, Kate kills Jack, Jack's dad is SATAN!, Mr Ecko comes back and rides the smoke monster, and IT WAS ALL A DREAM/THE ISLAND IS THE PURGATORYZ, you'd be like Whatever man, I'm just along for the ride!

?

I guess I'm just over-privileged. Gotta find SOMETHING to fuss over.
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
Knowing the ending has nothing to do with enjoying what happens to get me there.

But feel free to take a comment not aimed at you personally, by all means.
Nixon
I dunno, seemed like a potshot at me. Which, who cares, it's the internet. I know what you're saying with the whole The Journey Is More Important Than the Destination kick. But I can't imagine not being disappointed if I found out about a major plot point beforehand. More power to you I suppose.
tjenz
who will be the one to die, this season?
with next year ending the series, I'm ready to see them up then ante and start killing off some major players.

My guess James "Sawyer" Ford/Jim LeFleur. With Sawyer finally finding happiness w/Juliet his death would carry more weight now than at just about any other time during the series.

Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
I think Sawyer's the only major player who's kind of expendable. Most of the others seem somehow more tightly woven into the mythology. But if they really wanted to surprise everyone, they'd kill Jack.

Or maybe Monty's right and it's Hurley. The Jar Jar Binks comparison is not entirely wrong.
petras
I don't see them killing off Jack,Sawyer,Kate this season....they are huge ratings draws. Next season I think all bets are off but this season I think those 3 live. I'm guessing Sayid or Ben or Desmond are likely candidates. I'd miss Ben and Desmond, Sayid meh....his characters been kinda boring the last few seasons.

Tracy Jacks
QUOTE (M_Rots @ Mar 12 2009, 09:51 AM) *
I think Sawyer's the only major player who's kind of expendable. Most of the others seem somehow more tightly woven into the mythology. But if they really wanted to surprise everyone, they'd kill Jack.

Or maybe Monty's right and it's Hurley. The Jar Jar Binks comparison is not entirely wrong.

Sawyer is absolutely NOT expendable. He is part of the central love triangle, now quadrangle, of the show. He is also the most reliably humorous element of the show, apart from Hurley's more obvious fat man comedy.

There is also no way they get rid of Hurley. He is the conscience of the Losties and a key part of major mythology elements (numbers, Jacob, seeing other dead people).

Sayid is clearly the most expendable. No love interest. No major "buddy" connection now that he's separated from Desmond. No major mythology tied to his backstory (no dead father now alive stuff). The only thing keeping him alive is one backstory episode on how he lost his wife and why he hates Ben so much. He used to be the main muscle of the group, but now apparently everyone has the chops to beat the crap out of Ben, so even his skill set is no longer needed.

Jin/Sun used to be the most expendable, but they already tried to kill off Jin and I doubt they would try that again.
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