C.I.
Dec 17 2008, 05:44 PM
QUOTE
The National Writing For New Album
The National
December 16, 2008 10:59 AM ET
Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
The National is "pretty far into the process of writing" its next album, which the band will record starting in April in group member Aaron Dessner's new home studio in Brooklyn's Ditmas Park neighborhood.
The new album will be the follow-up to 2007's "Boxer" (Beggars Banquet), which has sold a career-best 147,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
The National is unlikely to return to the road until summer 2009, but will hit the stage Feb. 3 for the annual Tibet House benefit at New York's Carnegie Hall, alongside Philip Glass, Patti Smith and Vampire Weekend.
As previously reported, Aaron and his brother Bryce curated the upcoming AIDS benefit album "Dark Was the Night," due Feb. 17 from Beggars. The star-studded project boasts exclusive songs from Yo La Tengo, My Morning Jacket, Spoon, Bon Iver and Iron & Wine, among many others.
In the meantime, the Dessners have been collaborating on an instrumental project "focused on taking the way we play together and developing arrangements," Aaron Dessner tells Billboard.com.
"We did a few performances over the summer while we were on tour, like at festivals in France and Italy," Dessner says. "We performed at the White Cube Gallery in London while David Shepherd was manipulating the sound. It was really fun and inspiring."
The siblings will play again with Shepherd next month during an event at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and will also perform at the Bryce Dessner-organized Music Now Festival in Cincinnati.
"We're gearing up for possibly a really big performance together next fall, and then maybe to make a record," Dessner says. "This feeds our brains and lets us push ourselves. Either that, or it's incessant noodling."
At the outset, the duo was informally named Big Red Machine in a nod to the Dessners' Cincinnati hometown, but the brothers are now just going by their own names. "We think the Reds would get pissed off," Dessner says with a laugh. "They have the trademark."
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/the-na...003923029.story
Nixon
Dec 17 2008, 06:02 PM
One of my most anticipated albums ever. I read that Berninger told some people at a concert that it was probably going to be called "Shine." Sure hope not.
Chronodiggity
Dec 17 2008, 06:27 PM
this is one of the two or three seminal indie rock outfits right now
Nixon
Dec 17 2008, 07:39 PM
who are the other one or two?
arkin
Dec 17 2008, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Dec 17 2008, 06:27 PM)

this is one of the two or three seminal indie rock outfits right now
Isn't it still a bit early for them to be seminal?
C.I.
Dec 17 2008, 08:30 PM
Boxer, while really great, is extremely mannered. I hope the band cuts loose a bit for this next one. I sense that chances of this happening are slim, but I can hope.
Nixon
Dec 17 2008, 09:03 PM
QUOTE (Dark Heat @ Dec 17 2008, 09:30 PM)

Boxer, while really great, is extremely mannered. I hope the band cuts loose a bit for this next one. I sense that chances of this happening are slim, but I can hope.
Yeah, after the success of Boxer I doubt there'll be anything like Murder Me Rachel or Available. Shame, because when Berninger lets loose vocally it's incredible. Not the typical "just so" scream where on the paper the lyrics were originally written on it probably said (SCREAM:). He sounds like he's totally losing his shit.
pigfuck
Dec 17 2008, 09:24 PM
QUOTE (Nixon @ Dec 17 2008, 06:03 PM)

QUOTE (Dark Heat @ Dec 17 2008, 09:30 PM)

Boxer, while really great, is extremely mannered. I hope the band cuts loose a bit for this next one. I sense that chances of this happening are slim, but I can hope.
Yeah, after the success of Boxer I doubt there'll be anything like Murder Me Rachel or Available. Shame, because when Berninger lets loose vocally it's incredible. Not the typical "just so" scream where on the paper the lyrics were originally written on it probably said (SCREAM:). He sounds like he's totally losing his shit.
"my mind's not right" is the lyric of this generation, no doubt.
Liffey
Dec 17 2008, 09:42 PM
QUOTE (Nixon @ Dec 17 2008, 07:02 PM)

I read that Berninger told some people at a concert that it was probably going to be called "Shine." Sure hope not.
Me too.
Incredibly excited for this though. 2009 is gonna be such a badass year for music.
Hans Christian Anderson
Dec 17 2008, 10:22 PM
according to their email list it's not gonna see day until 2010. however, that dressner comp looks sweet.
needless to say i'm quite looking forward to this one release day aside.
Nixon
Dec 17 2008, 11:17 PM
QUOTE (Hans Christian Anderson @ Dec 17 2008, 11:22 PM)

according to their email list it's not gonna see day until 2010. however, that dressner comp looks sweet.
needless to say i'm quite looking forward to this one release day aside.
2010? Bleghhh. If that's true it's like being punched in the stomach.
I think they're probably my favorite band.
theremin
Dec 17 2008, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (arkin @ Dec 17 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Dec 17 2008, 06:27 PM)

this is one of the two or three seminal indie rock outfits right now
Isn't it still a bit early for them to be seminal?
Not the way people orgasm all over for this band.
Chronodiggity
Dec 17 2008, 11:49 PM
the other one or two are Spoon and a toss up of a bunch of different bands that i don't like as much (Hold Steady, Wilco, etc.)
Liffey
Dec 18 2008, 12:09 AM
QUOTE (Nixon @ Dec 18 2008, 12:17 AM)

QUOTE (Hans Christian Anderson @ Dec 17 2008, 11:22 PM)

according to their email list it's not gonna see day until 2010. however, that dressner comp looks sweet.
needless to say i'm quite looking forward to this one release day aside.
2010? Bleghhh. If that's true it's like being punched in the stomach.
I think they're probably my favorite band.
They are my third
2010 =
arkin
Dec 18 2008, 01:12 AM
QUOTE (theremin @ Dec 17 2008, 11:38 PM)

QUOTE (arkin @ Dec 17 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Dec 17 2008, 06:27 PM)

this is one of the two or three seminal indie rock outfits right now
Isn't it still a bit early for them to be seminal?
Not the way people orgasm all over for this band.
oh, in
that sense. Sure.
C.I.
Dec 18 2008, 01:44 AM
QUOTE (dicorice @ Dec 17 2008, 09:24 PM)

QUOTE (Nixon @ Dec 17 2008, 06:03 PM)

QUOTE (Dark Heat @ Dec 17 2008, 09:30 PM)

Boxer, while really great, is extremely mannered. I hope the band cuts loose a bit for this next one. I sense that chances of this happening are slim, but I can hope.
Yeah, after the success of Boxer I doubt there'll be anything like Murder Me Rachel or Available. Shame, because when Berninger lets loose vocally it's incredible. Not the typical "just so" scream where on the paper the lyrics were originally written on it probably said (SCREAM:). He sounds like he's totally losing his shit.
"my mind's not right" is the lyric of this generation, no doubt.
Sure, but I maintain his greatest moment vocally is at the end of "Available." He sounds truly unhinged. Chills down the spine, etc.
solace
Dec 18 2008, 04:55 AM
idk guys... i got to sit in on a few of their soundchecks over the past year and a half and heard them fool around with a few new songs, one of which was super heavy/punky, so we'll see...
ever since getting into them w/ Sad Songs they've surprised me with their follow-ups, so i'm thinking this will be no different in that aspect.
twicks
Dec 18 2008, 09:24 AM
I just had a premonition of me clicking on this very same thread about a year from now, looking for a leak.
C.I.
Dec 18 2008, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (solace @ Dec 18 2008, 04:55 AM)

idk guys... i got to sit in on a few of their soundchecks over the past year and a half and heard them fool around with a few new songs, one of which was super heavy/punky, so we'll see..
Well I do like the sound of that, then.
nagode
Dec 18 2008, 12:59 PM
QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Dec 17 2008, 10:49 PM)

the other one or two are Spoon and a toss up of a bunch of different bands that i don't like as much (Hold Steady, Wilco, etc.)
wilco is way past their prime and not indie anymore
UselessRocker
Dec 18 2008, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (Dark Heat @ Dec 18 2008, 12:56 PM)

QUOTE (solace @ Dec 18 2008, 04:55 AM)

idk guys... i got to sit in on a few of their soundchecks over the past year and a half and heard them fool around with a few new songs, one of which was super heavy/punky, so we'll see..
Well I do like the sound of that, then.
Yeah - this band needs a whole album's worth of "Available"s and "Abel"s.
Chronodiggity
Dec 18 2008, 06:54 PM
please no
Nixon
Dec 18 2008, 07:12 PM
Please just one moment of scary unhinged Berninger.
Chronodiggity
Dec 18 2008, 07:15 PM
the albums work better when they present all the facets of the band
solace
Dec 18 2008, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Dec 18 2008, 05:54 PM)

please no
2-3 per record is about perfect for me...
as great as Abel, Mr. November, Murder Me Rachel, etc. are, they're not my favorite National songs (live maybe)
Chronodiggity
Dec 18 2008, 07:25 PM
i'm not the biggest Abel fan, but i do have high praises for Mr. November and Murder Me Rachel.
just need some Karen's, some Slow Show's, some Trophy Wive's and some Gospel's
solace
Dec 18 2008, 07:42 PM
All The Wine's, and Secret meeting's, and Fake Empire's, etc.
Hans Christian Anderson
Dec 18 2008, 08:02 PM
i love berninger doing just about any style he already does.
i love this thread.
Nixon
Dec 18 2008, 09:06 PM
You know what gets no love but is one of my favorite National tunes?
Lucky You
I've put it on repeat for entire car rides of varying lengths.
Hans Christian Anderson
Dec 18 2008, 09:12 PM
lucky you is a masterpiece. i'd put it ahead of karen and maybe all the wine too (of those mentioned thus far). jesus what an incredible band, so many top tier songs.
did anyone hear that "around the bend" song they were playing earlier this year? someone posted an mp3. anyhow, a finished version is what's ending up on that dressner comp. now retitled "so far around the bend." the live version was good and i'm hoping the studio version is even better.
i wish the black lips thread had this kind of devotion
Nixon
Dec 18 2008, 09:19 PM
QUOTE (Hans Christian Anderson @ Dec 18 2008, 10:12 PM)

lucky you is a masterpiece. i'd put it ahead of karen and maybe all the wine too (of those mentioned thus far). jesus what an incredible band, so many top tier songs.
did anyone hear that "around the bend" song they were playing earlier this year? someone posted an mp3. anyhow, a finished version is what's ending up on that dressner comp. now retitled "so far around the bend." the live version was good and i'm hoping the studio version is even better.
i wish the black lips thread had this kind of devotion
Yeah this is fast becoming a fanboy circlejerk but god, this band is amazing. All the Wine is probably my favorite lyrically. Come on.
I'm in a state... I'm in a state...
Chronodiggity
Dec 18 2008, 09:27 PM
...like every Californian
Nixon
Dec 18 2008, 11:01 PM
To clarify I didn't intend to start any sort of call-and-response. Just gushing.
tweed
Dec 18 2008, 11:58 PM
it's probably been a few months since i've listened to the National, then outta nowhere, shoveling snow the other night, it gets in my fuggin brain, "it's a common fetish for a doting man to ballerina on the coffee table cock in hand" whateverthefuck that means. but yea, hurry up with the next one.
solace
Dec 19 2008, 12:58 AM
QUOTE (Nixon @ Dec 18 2008, 08:19 PM)

Yeah this is fast becoming a fanboy circlejerk but god, this band is amazing. All the Wine is probably my favorite lyrically. Come on.
I'm in a state... I'm in a state...
not from ATW, but...
"Didn't anybody, didn't anybody tell you
Didn't anybody tell you how to gracefully disappear in a room"
that might be my favorite lyric in quite some time.
SonicAlligator
Dec 19 2008, 02:06 AM
QUOTE (Nixon @ Dec 18 2008, 09:06 PM)

You know what gets no love but is one of my favorite National tunes?
Lucky You
I've put it on repeat for entire car rides of varying lengths.
Oh man, Lucky You is terrific. I'm a big fan of "Ada" and the entirety of Boxer, for that matter. Also really enjoy the lyrics in "Green Gloves."
"Cinderella through the room. I glide and swan 'cause I’m the best slow dancer in the universe."
Brilliant.
washing machine
Dec 19 2008, 02:14 AM
Seriously, best band.
cheese picture
Dec 19 2008, 03:01 AM
I wonder if you guys all have vivid feelings and memories attached to this music
solace
Dec 19 2008, 03:05 AM
QUOTE (vamos @ Dec 19 2008, 02:01 AM)

I wonder if you guys all have vivid feelings and memories attached to this music
many
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و ب
Dec 19 2008, 03:22 AM
available is a fucking terrible song
this guy sounds like a cocksucker whe nhe screams
Chronodiggity
Dec 19 2008, 05:17 AM
you like this band, stop being a bitch
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و ب
Dec 19 2008, 05:22 AM
when did i say i didn't
Chronodiggity
Dec 19 2008, 05:23 AM
Lit Up is cool with you but not Available?
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و ب
Dec 19 2008, 06:38 AM
yeah
SonicAlligator
Dec 19 2008, 10:34 AM
The Boss asked Berninger for assistance with writing a few songs. Berninger declined because he was too nervous. I forget where I read that but I am trying to find that article. As I was searching, I stumbled across this:
QUOTE
Apparently Bruce liked our version [of "Mansion on the Hill"]. But unfortunately I left right after the song to come home and watch "The West Wing", and it turns out the rest of the guys in the band drank whiskey with him for an hour or so. I kinda missed that opportunity. But it was a good time.
twicks
Dec 19 2008, 11:04 AM
QUOTE (SonicAlligator @ Dec 19 2008, 02:06 AM)

"Cinderella through the room. I glide and swan 'cause I’m the best slow dancer in the universe."
Brilliant.
Like the New Pornographers, I think the National's lyrics are their weak point. Stuff like the line you quoted is kinda pretty in a meaningless sorta way...but gimme a straight-up Westerberg/Morrissey line I can relate to over that nonsense any day.
solace
Dec 19 2008, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (twicks @ Dec 19 2008, 10:04 AM)

QUOTE (SonicAlligator @ Dec 19 2008, 02:06 AM)

"Cinderella through the room. I glide and swan 'cause I’m the best slow dancer in the universe."
Brilliant.
Like the New Pornographers, I think the National's lyrics are their weak point. Stuff like the line you quoted is kinda pretty in a meaningless sorta way...but gimme a straight-up Westerberg/Morrissey line I can relate to over that nonsense any day.
that line makes plenty of sense to me... *shrug*
twicks
Dec 19 2008, 11:42 AM
QUOTE (solace @ Dec 19 2008, 11:37 AM)

QUOTE (twicks @ Dec 19 2008, 10:04 AM)

QUOTE (SonicAlligator @ Dec 19 2008, 02:06 AM)

"Cinderella through the room. I glide and swan 'cause I’m the best slow dancer in the universe."
Brilliant.
Like the New Pornographers, I think the National's lyrics are their weak point. Stuff like the line you quoted is kinda pretty in a meaningless sorta way...but gimme a straight-up Westerberg/Morrissey line I can relate to over that nonsense any day.
that line makes plenty of sense to me... *shrug*
I didn't say it doesn't make sense. I just don't think it's that great.
(There I go, stating those terrible "preferences" again.)
solace
Dec 19 2008, 11:46 AM
ah, fair enough. thought you were saying it was senseless. you want seneseless/meaningless, listen to Mars Volta

Matt's lyrics are just cryptic enough to keep you guessing imo, he's much more a poet than a storyteller.
washing machine
Jan 16 2009, 01:49 AM
http://boanoiteeumqueijo.blogspot.com/2009...om-formiga.htmlNew track from the Dark Was The Night charity comp, first song on the webcast. Sounds great, definitely a bit of a stylistic change for them. For some reason, not sure why, it reminds me of R.E.M.'s Up, which is a good thing for me.
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