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boobs
I didn't realize Linklater had anything worth seeing outside of dazed and confused. Bad News Bears was ok but unneccessary. Use this thread to discuss the awesomeness of SubUrbia or tell me whether Slacker is worth seeing.

"It doesn't matter what I do as long as I don't care about the results. And that's why now, I'm getting naked."
Raj (Noble Con)
I remember this movie. It was really stupid.
boobs
explain yourself.

Ebert's review
Raj (Noble Con)
Well, it's been six or seven years since I saw it. But as I recall it doesn't go anywhere. It's just cliched pointless teens exchanging dull dialogue and doing nothing. Features Ribisi's floppy wang IIRC.
I'd appreciate some effort if you're going to make a film on such well-covered ground.
Movie also lacks an ending.
boobs
you need to rewatch it! Its none of those things. The dialogue isn't circular wankery a la ksmith, its actually very integral to the story itself, themes of alienation but also opportunity and disillusionment etc etc
petey
This was the movie that cemented my hatred of Steve Zahn.
nosmokeinthelungs
QUOTE(deej @ Mar 23 2006, 08:17 PM) [snapback]49141[/snapback]

explain yourself.

Ebert's review



god help us jesus, god and baby jesus help us!
boobs
QUOTE(petey @ Mar 23 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]49153[/snapback]

This was the movie that cemented my hatred of Steve Zahn.

This was the only time he hasn't bothered me! His acting in this is surprisingly restrained and realistic vs. his annoying spaz-styles in crappy schlock like that movie with jack black and the guy from american pie.
Uncle Remus
Yeah, that movie came out before I started hating Zahn, too.

Damn good flick...but the soundtrack trumps it. One of the finest collections of 90s alternative/indie rock around.
petey
QUOTE(deej @ Mar 23 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]49158[/snapback]

This was the only time he hasn't bothered me! His acting in this is surprisingly restrained and realistic vs. his annoying spaz-styles in crappy schlock like that movie with jack black and the guy from american pie.


You're talking about Saving Silverman, and I actually like that movie despite Zahn's presence.
The Good Dr Bill
Waking Life is pretty essential late-night viewing, imo. Not mind expanding or anything but it says some interesting things and presents them in an interesting manner, so it works for me. Slacker is good but more influential than enjoyable--far too episodic and unrealistic to really cohere into much of anything. Dazed and Confused is easily one of my ten favorite movies ever.
undo
QUOTE(Ballbag Hitter @ Mar 23 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]49160[/snapback]

Damn good flick...but the soundtrack trumps it. One of the finest collections of 90s alternative/indie rock around.

Whoa, this thread is really wierd because I used to own that soundtrack. I bought it when it first came out and it was the soundtrack to my last two years of high school. Then later I sold it.

I just ordered it on half.com about two weeks ago and it came in the mail this past weekend.

I really disliked much of the movie. Agreed about the ending. I guess it's based on a play and I could see it working better in that context.

This is all coming from someone who's never seen Dazed & Confused so I can't really comment on how this weighs in among the rest of Linklater's slacker movies. Yet to see Tape, the Before movies, or The Newton Boys (don't know if anyone has actually seen that last one, though).
The Good Dr Bill
wow, when scanning my mind for the highlights of Linklater's work, I totally forgot about Tape and both Before movies, despite the fact that all three would probably rank in my top 100 of the last decade or so. Tape in particular is mad underrated.

I did remember about The Newton Boys though, hah. I wonder if I'll live long enough to see revisionist theory claim that as Linklater's lost masterpiece.
Jimmy TKB
QUOTE(The Good Dr Bill @ Mar 23 2006, 11:27 PM) [snapback]49167[/snapback]

Waking Life is pretty essential late-night viewing, imo. Not mind expanding or anything but it says some interesting things and presents them in an interesting manner, so it works for me. Slacker is good but more influential than enjoyable--far too episodic and unrealistic to really cohere into much of anything. Dazed and Confused is easily one of my ten favorite movies ever.


Dazed was on the other day. I found myself looking at all the cars and drooling. Am I old or what? "That black and white Chevelle is awesome!" cool.gif
without_opinion
best part of the movie is Zahn running backwards into the parked car, shot from the POV of the kids sitting in the back seat. that's the peak, and the rest of the movie is like death valley.
nobodies
Didn't Linklater also direct "School of Rock"? Great film, and a great kids film that doesn't pander to kids.
Hips
QUOTE(yancy @ Mar 24 2006, 09:43 AM) [snapback]49371[/snapback]

Same, but I think I caught a bit of it on TV the other night. Does it have Matthew McWhatshisname and some skinny football player kid? What I saw of it was lame. Movies, you continue to disappoint me. Step it up.

yeah mathew mcshaunesyobrien is in it. give it a chance though. it's not great but it's pretty fuckin entertaining. oh and it contains a foxy Parker Posey to boot.

"Okay guys, one more thing, this summer when you're being inundated with all this American bicentennial Fourth Of July brouhaha, don't forget what you're celebrating, and that's the fact that a bunch of slave-owning, aristocratic, white males didn't want to pay their taxes."
boobs
Yeah y'all are crazy, Dazed and Confused is a classic.

I'm surprised there are so many suburbia haters tho.
The Good Dr Bill
Things that people that hate Dazed and Confused also probably hate:

1. Being young
2. Having cool friends
3. Making fun of Ben Affleck
4. Getting drunk
5. Foghat
Uncle Remus
Yeah, Dazed and Confused is one of the best films ever.
held
Linklater's flicks

Bad News Bears (2005) - Haven't seen it yet
Before Sunset (2004) - Haven't seen it yet
School of Rock (2003) - S'alright. Fun.
Tape (2001) - Haven't seen it yet
Waking Life (2001) - dull.
The Newton Boys (1998) - Great
SubUrbia (1996) - Good
Before Sunrise (1995) - Great
Dazed and Confused (1993) - Good
Slacker (1991) - Great
Uncle Remus

Bad News Bears (2005) - Haven't seen it yet
Before Sunset (2004) - Really Good
School of Rock (2003) - Good
Tape (2001) - Haven't seen it yet
Waking Life (2001) - Haven't seen it yet
The Newton Boys (1998) - Okay
SubUrbia (1996) - Really Good
Before Sunrise (1995) - Excellent
Dazed and Confused (1993) - Excellent
Slacker (1991) - Haven't seen it yet
Diesel
Maybe I have to see Dazed and Confused again. I saw it years ago and don't really recall liking it at all, but maybe if its on cable or something and I have nothing else better to do I'll check it out. Everyone seems to love it, but I remember being really unimpressed. But, again, that was years ago.

Slacker is massively overrated. I can appreciate its influence and impact on the indie film world and everything and its technique, but its just really, really fucking boring and difficult to get into. One of those movies you "admire" more than "enjoy," I guess.

School of Rock was freaking great, though.
boobs
School of Rock and Bad News Bears are both good but inoffensively so, entertaining but not really great in any way.

Original bad news bears >>> remake, too
The Good Dr Bill
School of Rock was pretty disappointing. Some cool musical parts but the plot was basically just a standard template "loser gets redeemed by doing something meaningful" semi-romantic comedy. I expected better from Linklater.
boobs
I imagine all he expected was a paycheck.
wh1tep0ny
love Dazed and Afflecks "Don McClan Hair" saw it a bunch at the midnight movies where everyone was getting stoned in the theater good times

Suburbia is fun too

my favorite exchange

"Jeff just likes to argue for the sake of arguing"

"No I don't"

"Yes you do"

"NO I don't!"

"Yes you do Jeff"

"NO I DON"T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"



Threadkiller
I already praised Waking Life in another thread, but ill give it props again here for being awesome, in a post-structuralist kinda way of course. God, if only reading Lacan was as much fun...

ps. im also excited for Linky's upcoming A Scanner Darkly, despite the combined wretchedness of Reeves and Downey Jr. dry.gif
BGwaves
Suburbia was good as a teen but now im not so sure.

Waking life and Slacker are both love it or hate it movie, mainly because they rely on gimmicks. I actually love both.

I really appreciate Linklaters existence in the world of hollywood film.
boobs
Just watched Dazed and Confused again for the first time in 3 years or so - I think it's only grown on me since, what an amazing film.
wh1tep0ny
Dazed is in that rare catagory where if it's on I'll tell myself I'm just gonna watch for 5 min while I scroll through the menu then and hour or so later I've watched the whole thing again

like

Goodfellas
Scareface
Stripes
Fast Times
etc
_______
Bad News Bears (2005) - Haven't seen it yet
Before Sunset (2004) - mildly interesting
School of Rock (2003) - good popcron movie
Tape (2001) - essential... probably his best
Waking Life (2001) - essential
The Newton Boys (1998) - very good
SubUrbia (1996) - has it's moments
Before Sunrise (1995) - mildly interesting in a maudlin 22-year-old way
Dazed and Confused (1993) - essential
Slacker (1991) - essential
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