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Rad Monkey
I had no idea this section existed until now, it's all sorts of LOL. I don't see how it's any different than the back of the reader though.
Duff.
Kinda ridiculous, wish we would spend time on actual problems.
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
QUOTE (Duff. @ Mar 6 2009, 07:59 AM) *
Kinda ridiculous, wish we would spend time on actual problems.


One of many drawbacks of the zero-tolerance policing philosophy is that law enforcement views all problems as equal. Once listened to a polce officer explain that we, the public, didn't understand: All law breaking is equally bad and it isn't our choice which laws are enforced and/or with what degree of severity. Thus Craigslist facilitating prostitution becomes exactly the same as open air drug markets, gang violence or any other issue affecting a community.
nobodies
QUOTE (M_Rots @ Mar 6 2009, 08:44 AM) *
Thus Craigslist facilitating prostitution becomes exactly the same as open air drug markets, gang violence or any other issue affecting a community.


The irony being that Craigslist reduces "streetwalkers" and "open air" hooker markets, the parts of prostitution that actually do impact communities; and the further irony being that illegalizing prostitution makes it much more dangerous for both the prostitutes and the johns.
Bob Loblaw
I don't see how Craig's List "promotes" prostitution. Where do they encourage it? They also facilitate millions of private transactions that aren't reported for sales or income tax. Will that be the next target?
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
QUOTE (nobodies @ Mar 6 2009, 08:58 AM) *
QUOTE (M_Rots @ Mar 6 2009, 08:44 AM) *
Thus Craigslist facilitating prostitution becomes exactly the same as open air drug markets, gang violence or any other issue affecting a community.


The irony being that Craigslist reduces "streetwalkers" and "open air" hooker markets, the parts of prostitution that actually do impact communities; and the further irony being that illegalizing prostitution makes it much more dangerous for both the prostitutes and the johns.


Absolutely right. Sad thing, the basic explanation of this from a conservative viewpoint, runs: We have to make sure that prostitution is unsafe for all involved as a means of deterrence. Since "we" have determined that prostitution is immoral and therefore bad, we need to encourage people to do something else, but if prostitution is safe in any/all senses of the word, we'll be encouraging bad behavior.

Which is insane, of course, but never mind...
MattW
QUOTE (Bob Loblaw @ Mar 6 2009, 11:04 AM) *
I don't see how Craig's List "promotes" prostitution. Where do they encourage it? They also facilitate millions of private transactions that aren't reported for sales or income tax. Will that be the next target?



The Erotic Services section I would consider a promotion for escorts and prostitutes. The first time I saw this year I was stunned that it existed on such a public site. I saw this coming for years. Not that I care one way or the other, I'm just surprised it took this long.
Bob Loblaw
QUOTE (MattW @ Mar 6 2009, 10:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Bob Loblaw @ Mar 6 2009, 11:04 AM) *
I don't see how Craig's List "promotes" prostitution. Where do they encourage it? They also facilitate millions of private transactions that aren't reported for sales or income tax. Will that be the next target?



The Erotic Services section I would consider a promotion for escorts and prostitutes. The first time I saw this year I was stunned that it existed on such a public site. I saw this coming for years. Not that I care one way or the other, I'm just surprised it took this long.



They've had that section in the yellow pages for years. It's called something different, but the meaning is the same. Where else would you sell your services as a stripper for parties? Notice it doesn't say sexual services, but erotic.

The thing that these people don't realize is that they are fighting a battle that can never be won. It's like the ridiculous war on drugs. People will find a way around the rules to have some fun, whether it's morally reprehensible to some or not.
Montana
Waste of time and money. We're in the greatest economic collapse in many years and these dicks are worred about paid orgasms?

Fucking idiots.
nobodies
QUOTE (Bob Loblaw @ Mar 6 2009, 09:22 AM) *
It's like the ridiculous war on drugs. People will find a way around the rules to have some fun, whether it's morally reprehensible to some or not.


Let me start by saying that I don't agree with the war on drugs; but the war on prostituion is even dumber.

Legalizing prostitution could make it extremely safe. By licensing it, requiring std testing, condoms, security, credit card transactions, etc....you will virtually eliminate all the things that make it dangerous (stds, beatings, fraud, rape, robberies, etc.). The criminalization of prostitution is what creates the problems.

Drugs on the other hand (at least some of them) will always be dangerous. Legalization might cure some purity/tampering problems...but heroin and coke are always potentially lethal. I'm not saying the drug war is the solution, but at least there's a logical reason for trying to keep some drugs off the street. Illegalized prostitution makes no sense.
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
QUOTE (Montana @ Mar 6 2009, 09:32 AM) *
Waste of time and money. We're in the greatest economic collapse in many years and these dicks are worred about paid orgasms?

Fucking idiots.


Well, it isn't as if you can arrest an economic collapse.
6ome 9irl
GET A LIFE YOU FUCKING PIGS AND FIGHT REAL CRIME.

AND DON'T FORGET TO TIP YOUR HOOKER COCKWADS.
6ome 9irl
"We put up ... one saying 14-year-old looking for sex," he said. "That ad wasn't taken down. It sat out there until we took it down."


This is such despicable logic. More like everyone knew it was the fuzz and ignored the ad. There is one per million examples of underage/trafficking on CL, the rest is consenting adults. It's all a bunch of bullshit with the crackdown.

More Drama
On Craigslist, you definitely don't have to pay for it, but it's still probably not worth it.

(according to legend)
6ome 9irl
Yes, but you almost always have to pay for speciality and specificity.
6ome 9irl
So how bullshit is it that a cop can fuck you and then arrest you? Because that's how they all do it.

Tom Dart is just trying to further his political career.
Duff.
No doubt. This sounds good to "values voters" but really does little to uphold law and order and all that crap.
6ome 9irl
A new version of CL is launching Thursday anyway. Good job, Dart. Who didn't see that coming?

JeffTweedysFatStomach
QUOTE (6ome 9irl @ Mar 7 2009, 04:15 PM) *
So how bullshit is it that a cop can fuck you and then arrest you? Because that's how they all do it.


For real?
tjenz
craigslist announces they are getting rid of their erotic ads section.
how are people ever going to find whores now?
Duff.
Hurray for solving no problems while making prostitution more dangerous for everyone.

Kostics Trap
QUOTE (M_Rots @ Mar 6 2009, 09:44 AM) *
QUOTE (Duff. @ Mar 6 2009, 07:59 AM) *
Kinda ridiculous, wish we would spend time on actual problems.


One of many drawbacks of the zero-tolerance policing philosophy is that law enforcement views all problems as equal. Once listened to a polce officer explain that we, the public, didn't understand: All law breaking is equally bad and it isn't our choice which laws are enforced and/or with what degree of severity. Thus Craigslist facilitating prostitution becomes exactly the same as open air drug markets, gang violence or any other issue affecting a community.


Is sodomy illegal in Mississippi? wink.gif
tjenz
QUOTE (Kostics Trap @ May 13 2009, 04:09 PM) *
Is sodomy illegal in Mississippi? wink.gif

I hope not
6ome 9irl
QUOTE (Duff. @ May 13 2009, 03:52 PM) *
Hurray for solving no problems while making prostitution more dangerous for everyone.

THIS.

All it just is does fuck up the other sections. So now when you place an ad for a personal you get an ask for $250 roses.
Chronodiggity
All of us like minded liberal people believe that prostitution should be 100% legal throughout the country, right?
raumschwein
QUOTE (6ome 9irl @ May 14 2009, 01:00 AM) *
QUOTE (Duff. @ May 13 2009, 03:52 PM) *
Hurray for solving no problems while making prostitution more dangerous for everyone.

THIS.

All it just is does fuck up the other sections. So now when you place an ad for a personal you get an ask for $250 roses.
Sure, but I think the real tragedy here is that this could make it harder for me to use CL to buy weed. (As if it weren't hard enough in Chicago--Houston was much, much easier).
More Drama
That sounds dumb as fuck but of course I'm now tempted to try.
MattW
QUOTE (Duff. @ May 13 2009, 03:52 PM) *
Hurray for solving no problems while making prostitution more dangerous for everyone.



Wait a minute. I'm for legalization, but I wouldn't exactly consider meeting a hooker off of craigslist a particularly safe idea for the hooker or the john. How is prostitution now more dangerous? People can still search for escorts off of newspaper ads online or in print.
Duff.
I'm no expert on the topic, but making arrangements through craigslist seems safer than hanging out on steet corners late at night. There's risk no matter what, but it seems easier and safer to screen clients/prostitutes on craigslist if you're not an idiot.

If nothing else we can agree this solved nothing.
MattW
Most definitely an empty publicity story all around.
nagode
QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ May 14 2009, 02:26 AM) *
All of us like minded liberal people believe that prostitution should be 100% legal throughout the country, right?


many if not most conservatives (liberatarians) are also for it...

its a tough issue though - if your for traditional values you have to be against it, but if your against it your then against the free market

myslef - i think it should be a state issue - and id vote to make it legal and tax the shit out of it (although that goes against the conservative notion of keeping taxes low) ohmy.gif
wakingrufus
i guess they are counter-suing
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories...18/daily47.html
tjenz
QUOTE
A North Carolina husband used the online advertising service Craigslist to enlist a man to rape his wife in the couple's home, police said Wednesday.

The 25-year-old Kannapolis man faces first-degree rape and other charges. The Associated Press, which generally does not identify victims of sexual assault, is not naming the man to avoid identifying his wife.

His wife called 911 early Sunday morning and said a man with a knife raped her in the bedroom of their home in Kannapolis, about 25 miles northeast of Charlotte, authorities said. Her husband was in the room, police said. Their two young children were also home, but were unaware of what was happening, authorities said.

The husband sought someone in the ads to come to his home and have sex with his wife using "scare tactics," police said. It was without her knowledge or consent, police said.

Authorities are still investigating the identity of the man who attacked the woman and it wasn't known if the husband paid him to do it. The woman was not seriously injured, but was treated at a hospital and released.

Investigators turned their suspicions to the husband after his statement didn't add up and because there were no signs the attacker broke into the home. The husband was jailed Wednesday on $200,000 bond.

"We share the public's horror that such a crime was committed, and our heart goes out to the victim," said Craigslist spokeswoman Susan MacTavish Best.

The online classified site had been criticized for its "erotic services" section, which Craigslist agreed to do away with last month after a Boston medical student, deemed "the Craigslist killer," was charged with killing a woman he met on the site.

A Kansas City, Mo., man was sentenced last month to 29 years in prison for raping a woman who advertised in the section.
bleach
QUOTE (Duff. @ May 14 2009, 01:38 PM) *
I'm no expert on the topic, but making arrangements through craigslist seems safer than hanging out on steet corners late at night. There's risk no matter what, but it seems easier and safer to screen clients/prostitutes on craigslist if you're not an idiot.

but you also have to take into consideration that some of these girls are under age and enslavement is sometimes involved.

which makes me think the cops fucked up yet again. seems to me it would be easier to catch these fuckers with a service like craigslist up and running.
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