I guess, but 7:30 is my only chance for reruns and that's baseball or dog walk time or both.
The Twittertracker bit last night was pretty good. Ditto the ending to the Hanks interview.
Full Version: Conan O'Brian: Takes Over the Tonight Show
QUOTE (MattW @ Jun 3 2009, 09:59 AM) 
I guess, but 7:30 is my only chance for reruns and that's baseball or dog walk time or both.
The Twittertracker bit last night was pretty good. Ditto the ending to the Hanks interview.
The Twittertracker bit last night was pretty good. Ditto the ending to the Hanks interview.
the rodeo road skit was pretty good as well.
everything about the second show was better than the first.
QUOTE (MattW @ Jun 2 2009, 04:13 PM)
Colbert's writing staff mops the floor with both of them anyways.
is it just me or is colbert clearly better than stewart?
No it's been true since at least about the time when Colbert spoke at the correspondent's dinner. He's quicker on his feet and is a better performer. And it usually comes down to the writing, and no one's touching Colbert staff right now.
QUOTE (dice @ Jun 3 2009, 11:07 AM)
QUOTE (MattW @ Jun 2 2009, 04:13 PM)
Colbert's writing staff mops the floor with both of them anyways.
is it just me or is colbert clearly better than stewart?
It's not you, Colbert is the man...I do like Jon's delivery more.
i think it's more than the writing. colbert's just fucking brilliant. and stewart begs for laughs/reflexively laughs at his own jokes too much. of course, if colbert didn't exist, stewart would be head and shoulders above any would-be competitor
But if you think about the majority of the first segments of TDS these days, you have:
-Introduction of news story
-Spliced sound bites
-Stewart looking shocked or put off
-Smart ass quip
That's more of a photoshop and riff job than a writing job. Colbert's bits are more thoroughly meaty and multi-dimensional because the writing is there.
-Introduction of news story
-Spliced sound bites
-Stewart looking shocked or put off
-Smart ass quip
That's more of a photoshop and riff job than a writing job. Colbert's bits are more thoroughly meaty and multi-dimensional because the writing is there.
QUOTE (MattW @ Jun 3 2009, 11:25 AM)
But if you think about the majority of the first segments of TDS these days, you have:
-Introduction of news story
-Spliced sound bites
-Stewart looking shocked or put off
-Smart ass quip
That's more of a photoshop and riff job than a writing job. Colbert's bits are more thoroughly meaty and multi-dimensional because the writing is there.
-Introduction of news story
-Spliced sound bites
-Stewart looking shocked or put off
-Smart ass quip
That's more of a photoshop and riff job than a writing job. Colbert's bits are more thoroughly meaty and multi-dimensional because the writing is there.
True... Stewart is just primer for Colbert
Watching last night's Conan right now.
So much better than the first show. Funnier, less awkward, everything. Even gradually incorporating more classic "Late Night" touches.
Fantastic stuff.
So much better than the first show. Funnier, less awkward, everything. Even gradually incorporating more classic "Late Night" touches.
Fantastic stuff.
Twitter Tracker had me laughing like an idiot.
Loving the new Tonight Show so far. Very few complaints come to mind except Tom Hanks spastic outbursts. It all seems especially nice after putting up with Fallon for a while so I could see Steve Martin play banjo.
Others are right though, I would like to see more for Andy to do besides being an Ed McMahon human laugh track. I like that role for him, just expand it.
"In the Year 3000" was alright.
QUOTE (Efrim @ Jun 3 2009, 05:43 PM)
Others are right though, I would like to see more for Andy to do besides being an Ed McMahon human laugh track. I like that role for him, just expand it.
I was thinking more Paul Schaffer than Ed McMahon. But yes, put him on the couch.
i wish the kids that came up with this werent old friends from college, because its actually awesome....
QUOTE (forgo @ Jun 4 2009, 09:34 PM)
i wish the kids that came up with this werent old friends from college, because its actually awesome....
Aside from the musical guests the new Conan has been pretty good. Not as good as Colbert but good enough for NBC.
QUOTE (Rad Monkey @ Jun 4 2009, 11:30 PM)
QUOTE (forgo @ Jun 4 2009, 09:34 PM)
i wish the kids that came up with this werent old friends from college, because its actually awesome....
I was getting mesmerized by this just now because it was keeping beat with the song I'm listening to right now.
he did a segment on this on the show. the vid gotten taken down from youtube by NBC though
QUOTE (wakingrufus @ Jun 6 2009, 05:08 PM)
he did a segment on this on the show. the vid gotten taken down from youtube by NBC though
what day, maybe I can find it on hulu.
Just got back from a week long vacation without TV and was just catching up on the first week of Conan (though my damned TiVo deleted the first episode!) and I'm enjoying these episodes.
Also, the bit he did on Friday parodying Jay's (lame attempt at being sentimental) Tonight Show Kids segment was hilarious.
Also, the bit he did on Friday parodying Jay's (lame attempt at being sentimental) Tonight Show Kids segment was hilarious.
QUOTE (Rad Monkey @ Jun 6 2009, 10:44 PM)
QUOTE (wakingrufus @ Jun 6 2009, 05:08 PM)
he did a segment on this on the show. the vid gotten taken down from youtube by NBC though
what day, maybe I can find it on hulu.
Friday. 9 min mark.
i think conan might lose his youthful, lovable creative side now
all this new power he has been given
i hope he doesn't turn into an asshole like letterman
i've always thought he was really funny and not standard at all comedically
tonight there was something weird in his facial expressions
and the interview between him and Larry David felt tense
also the band was fucking horrible. terrible.
all this new power he has been given
i hope he doesn't turn into an asshole like letterman
i've always thought he was really funny and not standard at all comedically
tonight there was something weird in his facial expressions
and the interview between him and Larry David felt tense
also the band was fucking horrible. terrible.
Calm down.
QUOTE (the @ Jun 17 2009, 01:09 AM)
also the band was fucking horrible. terrible.
House band or musical guest?
you best not be saying the house band was terrible because youll get a punch straight to your nuts.
Also the Larry David interview wasn't tense. It was a Larry David interview. I expected nothing less. It was comedic brilliance.
No you fools I'm not talking about the house band. Who do you think I am, seriously? I should punch you in the nuts for even thinking I would think that, forgo.
Yo FUCK you gramps I don't give a FUCK aight so FUCK off
Yo FUCK you gramps I don't give a FUCK aight so FUCK off
QUOTE (the @ Jun 17 2009, 08:42 AM)
No you fools I'm not talking about the house band. Who do you think I am, seriously? I should punch you in the nuts for even thinking I would think that, forgo.
Yo FUCK you gramps I don't give a FUCK aight so FUCK off
Yo FUCK you gramps I don't give a FUCK aight so FUCK off
Dude, you didn't specify. You just said "band." So relax and make your post clearer.
It seems as though the musical guest segment is installing a tradition of crappiness, just as an afterthought to everything else. Sounds like they need a new booker.
shattner was brilliant tonite...made me remember why i love the guy
QUOTE (Agrimorfee @ Jun 17 2009, 05:11 PM)
It seems as though the musical guest segment is installing a tradition of crappiness, just as an afterthought to everything else. Sounds like they need a new booker.
yeah how about the fucking residents
thatd be fucking awesome
QUOTE (nagode @ Jun 17 2009, 10:19 PM)
shattner was brilliant tonite...made me remember why i love the guy
No doubt. So funny. And I still go back to "Has Been" and fucking love it!
Also, what did you guys think of The Dead Weather last night?
it really sucks that the musical guests took such a downturn, because Late Nite usually had pretty good artists, for the most part. it just sucks because in the more popular time slot you need to pander to the bigger audience.
QUOTE (n.k @ Jun 19 2009, 10:46 AM)
QUOTE (nagode @ Jun 17 2009, 10:19 PM)
shattner was brilliant tonite...made me remember why i love the guy
No doubt. So funny. And I still go back to "Has Been" and fucking love it!
Also, what did you guys think of The Dead Weather last night?
they were ok...conan loved em...and the chick from the kills looked hot
QUOTE (nagode @ Jun 22 2009, 05:08 PM)
So freaking true!
Best musical guest yet?
I watched the opening monologue last night and it was pretty bad. Do they have to work with the same writers that Leno had or something? Honest question.
QUOTE (n.k @ Jun 25 2009, 09:36 AM)
Best musical guest yet?
Maybe, but he should have done a better song.
haha, no. conan's never had strong monologues.
QUOTE (undo @ Jun 25 2009, 11:04 AM)
I watched the opening monologue last night and it was pretty bad. Do they have to work with the same writers that Leno had or something? Honest question.
No, but the monologue has never seemed anything more than an obligation in terms of the Johnny Carson tradition to Conan or Letterman, yet it's an enormous chunk of their shows. At least Conan is throwing in video sketches to break it up.
Anybody see Death Cab? Not a bad performance... but what the hell is with Ben Gibbard's weird looking hair? Does Zooey like that?
That picture still breaks my heart. Why Zooey? WHY!!!!?
Thought this might be of some interest:
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Dave Tops 'Tonight Show' for 2 Straight Weeks (First Time Since 1998); Demo Gap With Conan Shrinking
I'm digesting all the info, but here are the late night viewer totals for the week of 7/13-7/17:
Nightline: 3.743 million
Late Show: 3.454 million
The Tonight Show: 2.713 million
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Late Late Show: 1.478 million
Jimmy Fallon: 1.269 million
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First time Late Show has topped Tonight Show in consecutive weeks since Feburary 1998 (when CBS had Nagano Olympics).
Demo gap continues to shrink between Late Show and Tonight Show.. Now only .2 in 18-49. Down to .5 in 18-34.
Late Show up vs same week last year. +17% in viewers. +10% in 25-54. +14% in 18-49. Even in 18-34.
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CBS' late night momentum extending to 12:30 AM. Ferguson tops Fallon in viewers by largest margin since Fallon's March premiere. The shows tied in 25-54.
Ferguson up vs same week last year. +8% in viewers. +20% in 25-54. Even in 18-49 and 18-34.
I'm digesting all the info, but here are the late night viewer totals for the week of 7/13-7/17:
Nightline: 3.743 million
Late Show: 3.454 million
The Tonight Show: 2.713 million
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Late Late Show: 1.478 million
Jimmy Fallon: 1.269 million
---
First time Late Show has topped Tonight Show in consecutive weeks since Feburary 1998 (when CBS had Nagano Olympics).
Demo gap continues to shrink between Late Show and Tonight Show.. Now only .2 in 18-49. Down to .5 in 18-34.
Late Show up vs same week last year. +17% in viewers. +10% in 25-54. +14% in 18-49. Even in 18-34.
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CBS' late night momentum extending to 12:30 AM. Ferguson tops Fallon in viewers by largest margin since Fallon's March premiere. The shows tied in 25-54.
Ferguson up vs same week last year. +8% in viewers. +20% in 25-54. Even in 18-49 and 18-34.
Watching the show as of late has been getting disapointing. Flat jokes on the monologue (and he knows it, but goofy body gestures won't save him forwever), meh guests, and head scratching musical segments (every act this week made me say, "Who the fuck is that?"). All the good stuff is still the post-monologue, pre-first guest material though.
Leno is obviously being set up to fail in prime time.
If Conan doesn't improve in the ratings, will NBC bring Leno back to Tonight?
If Conan doesn't improve in the ratings, will NBC bring Leno back to Tonight?
Promos all look like "The Jay Walking Hour". EWWW.
QUOTE (Agrimorfee @ Jul 24 2009, 02:18 PM)
Watching the show as of late has been getting disapointing. Flat jokes on the monologue (and he knows it, but goofy body gestures won't save him forwever), meh guests, and head scratching musical segments (every act this week made me say, "Who the fuck is that?"). All the good stuff is still the post-monologue, pre-first guest material though.
Yeah, this about says it. I flip over to Conan after the 2nd Colbert segment which is about when the post-monologue sketches get started. Then he says, "stay tuned for Jonah Hill or Meredith Viera" and I think 'Really? First guest Jonah Hill? If you keep this up Letterman's going to take the lead back.' Apparently he already has. I still think the writing on the sketches is pretty good, but the 'I used to live in New York, now I live in LA' motif needs to be dropped. It's only a matter of time before the consultants and the market researchers begin to over-critique the show and homogenize him like they did to Letterman.
I don't think they'll make a Leno switch, though.
QUOTE (MattW @ Jul 24 2009, 02:51 PM)
It's only a matter of time before the consultants and the market researchers begin to over-critique the show and homogenize him like they did to Letterman.
you really think those people affect dave that much?
seems to me it's the guest lists that are the primary culprits when it comes to conan's ratings. he was never gonna match jay's numbers though
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