...because the only souls who bother to appear to the losties are the souls that care about the losties?

We've seen Ana Lucia since her "death"...did she care about anyone?

hey does anyone remember who that little kid is that locke told desmond to ignore?

i forget

The shot of Demond in his car looking like David Caruso in CSI Miami was embarassing.

I didn't think there was a definitive answer. Some potentials include young Jacob, older Aaron, young Locke, young mib, young Daniel...

I'm terrified that this is all leading towards a climactic alt-timeline scenario in which the characters are forced in a situation so that we can get the final, be-all/end-all, true answer (for one week, anyway) to the immortal question, "Who does Kate really love--Jack or Sawyer?" Dreading this.

Sawyer ends up with alt timeline Juliette

Huh. I wrote last week that I detected a sense of menace with Desmond's "there's something I want them to see" and I stand by it. The dude is now irrationally one-minded much in the same way Charlie was in driving Des into the water in the first place. Sorta blind, almost. Which brings me to his other, real reality incarnation, who'd also pulled an equivocal and immediate 180 in motivation, all "I hate being back on the island" to "Gosh, I'll do whatever you tell me."

I think Flocke was right to be suspicious as to this "new" Desmond's lack of fear. And I don't necessarily believe that this new Desmond's (in both realities) motives are innately pure or "good."

so after speaking to my co workers they believe desmond hit locke with the car so he has to go see jack...i dont buy it...if thats true then that is just stupid lazy writiing...

I'm more convinced than ever that Des will replace Jakob. He's already done his apprenticeship pushing the button.

Damon Lindelof said in a podcast we should be asking what happens to the alternate timeline when someone dies in the first timeline and vice versa. Something to think about...

The fact that Sayid technically died in the current island timeline does give one pause with that information.

Well yeah, neither did Arzt, Charlotte, Dogen, Edward Mars, Pierre Change, or countless others from what we know so far. Doesn't mean that they won't ever.

so then thats probably not it since the amount of people who have died on the island not having recollections outnumbers those who do - as of right now

But none of those people experienced TRUE LOVE

Bens daughter and Carl....although where Carl is in the alt-timeline is anyones guess...prolly working at the gap.

that begs the question...what about bens daughter - she didnt remember anything

But none of those people experienced TRUE LOVE

Was she his daughter in the alttimeline? I didn't see anything pointing to that in the episode (likely distracted by my 2 year old). To me, I thought Ben just saw something special in her.

SPOILER Sneak peek #2 for next week's episode SPOILER

so that makes me think that desmond hit locke to kill him not reunite him and jack































































Finale casting spoiler
Walt spotted on set

now that was an episode that tried my patience. a little bit of smokey confirmation, ...does anyone actually think sayid killed desmond?

Saint Sebastian (died c. 288) was a Christian saint and martyr, who is said to have been killed during the Roman emperor Diocletian's persecution of Christians. He is commonly depicted in art and literature tied to a post and shot with arrows.

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The details of Saint Sebastian's martyrdom were first elaborated by Ambrose of Milan, in his sermon (number XX) on Psalm 118. Ambrose stated that Sebastian came from Milan and that he was already venerated there in the fourth century.

According to Sebastian's fifth-century Acta Sanctorum,[1] still attributed to Ambrose by the seventeenth-century hagiographer Jean Bolland, and the briefer account in Legenda Aurea, he was a man of Gallia Narbonensis who was taught in Milan and appointed as a captain of the Praetorian Guard under Diocletian and Maximian, who were unaware that he was a Christian.

Sebastian was known for having encouraged in their faith two Christian prisoners due for martyrdom, Mark and Marcellian, who were bewailed and entreated by their family to forswear Christ and offer token sacrifice.[JACOB & MIB??]

His aura was said to have cured a woman of her muteness [SUN??], and that the miracle instantly converted 78 persons.

According to tradition, Mark and Marcellian were twin brothers and were deacons. They were from a distinguished family and were both married, living in Rome with their wives and children. The brothers refused to sacrifice to the Roman gods and were arrested. They were visited by their father and mother, Tranquillinus and Martia, in prison, who attempted to persuade them to renounce Christianity.

Sebastian ended up converting Tranquillinus and Martia, as well as Saint Tiburtius, the son of Chromatius, the local prefect. Nicostratus, another official, and his wife Zoe[COINCIDENCE!] were also converted. According to the legend, Zoe had been a mute for 6 years. However, she made known to Sebastian her desire to be converted to Christianity. As soon as she had, her speech returned to her. Nicostratus then brought the rest of the prisoners; these 16 persons were also converted by Sebastian.[2]

Chromatius and Tiburtius became converts; Chromatius set all of his prisoners free from jail, resigned his position, and retired to the country in Campania. Mark and Marcellian, after being concealed by a Christian named Castulus, were later martyred, as were Nicostratus, Zoe, and Tiburtius.

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Reliquary of St Sebastian around 1497[3] Victoria and Albert Museum, LondonDiocletian reproached Sebastian for his supposed betrayal, and "he commanded him to be led to the field and there to be bounden to a stake for to be shot at. And the archers shot at him till he was as full of arrows as an urchin (hedgehog),"[4] leaving him there for dead. Miraculously, the arrows did not kill him. The widow of Castulus, Irene of Rome, went to retrieve his body to bury it, and found he was still alive. She brought him back to her house and nursed him back to health. The other residents of the house doubted he was a Christian. One of those was a girl who was blind. Sebastian asked her "Do you wish to be with God?", and made the sign of the Cross on her head. "Yes", she replied, and immediately regained her sight. Sebastian then stood on a step and harangued Diocletian as he passed by; the emperor had him beaten to death and his body thrown in a privy. But in an apparition Sebastian told a Christian widow where they might find his body undefiled and bury it "at the catacombs by the apostles."

Of the miraculous effect of the example of Sebastian, the Golden Legend reports,

"And Saint Gregory telleth in the first book of his Dialogues that a woman of Tuscany which was new wedded was prayed for to go with other women to the dedication of the church of Sebastian, and the night tofore she was so moved in her flesh that she might not abstain from her husband, and on the morn, she having greater shame of men than of God, went thither, and anon as she was entered into the oratory where the relics of Saint Sebastian were, the fiend took her and tormented her before all the people." [FOOD FOR THOUGHT...]
Sebastian was also said to be a defense against the plague. The Golden Legend transmits the episode of a great plague that afflicted the Lombards in the time of King Gumburt, which was stopped by the erection of an altar to Sebastian in the Church of Saint Peter in the Province of Pavia.

Because Sebastian had been thought to have been killed by the arrows, and yet was not, and then later was killed by the same emperor who ordered him shot, he is sometimes known as the saint who was martyred twice.

In the time that it took Sayid to get back to Nadia's house. Miles and Sawyer found out about the murders. Got video surveillance tape. Got a positive ID on Sayid and got to Nadia's house 10 seconds behind Sayid.

This show really stretches the boundaries of believability.

The only interesting thing was this Jack becoming MiB's last recruit thing. Did MiB save him from those bombs just like he saved Sayid? I don't think it matters, because I'm certainly not buying it this late in the game. If anything, I'd guess they're setting this up so that for a few episodes Jack will be separated from the group/with MiB, but since he's the de facto main character and what not, he'll probably be the one to prove MiB wrong just like Jacob foretold. Probably won't happen until the finale. Then Desmond will mop things up I guess.

. the jack moment on the boat was unbelievable (well, as much as jack making yet another dumb decision is unbelievable), ...

Was the Sun/Jin reunion supposed to be a parody of cheesy reunions? "We will never be apart again" sob sob sob. And everyone with guns just kind of freezing and gawking at it? And Sun magically talking again? And then Jin blindly getting on his knees when the guns were turned on the Losties? I can't recall a worse scene in Lost history. Really hope this isn't how they're going to handle all of the other closure scenes that are coming our way.

I started the season as a huge Lost geek. Now I'm almost to the point where I just can't wait until it's over. There have been a handful of great episodes this season (Ab Aeterno and the Desmond ep for sure) but if season two or three had been this uneven and snail-paced, I'd have jumped ship long ago. The last two episodes have given us answers to questions fans have been waiting years for, and the way they handle the reveal is so damn lazy. Jack just sits down with Locke and basically interviews him on behalf of the fans? That's as bad as Hurley's discussion with Michael last weekend.

If the smoke monster was Christian, and Christian was in post-Oceanic 6 LA when Jack was working late, then what the FUCK is the problem? Why doesn't the dumbass just do that shit again, and stay off the island? God damn it.

You didn't find the first six or so episodes of season 3 to be uneven and snail-paced? It was probably the lowest point of the entire series, the whole business with the characters stuck in the cages. Absolutely awful.

Anywho, that wasn't a good episode at all. It had interesting bits, but overall, just a poor setup episode. I pretty much know what's going to happen in the next episode, and the promo pictures basically confirm some spoilers I read a few weeks ago. It's gonna be pretty wild, that's for sure.

Yes, this bugs me too. Shit, everything about "The Rules" bugs me. Why couldn't MiB kill Jacob? Why can't he kill the candidates? Why does everyone need to be together for things to happen? Just because?