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tjenz
Cuse said what?!?!?!
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While the producers have no personal plans for future incarnations of Lost, Cuse pointed out that it’s a powerful franchise and Disney would be foolish not to capitalize on that. So I think we can expect more Lost of some stripe in the future (or the past, because there’s often time travel involved.)
kingsleadhat
Not too surprising. With the amount of mythology this show has created, a spinoff or movie or comic book seems to be in the cards
petras
More lost could be incredibly cheesy, or incredibly cool all depends on how they end the actual series. If they tie up all the loose ends then any movie/book/comic is just gonna end up being a lame cash grab.
b*derty
just reread the synopsis about 'jacob's enemy' on lostpedia and realized:
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that the enemy is the smoke monster. he knows locke's past since he saw into locke's soul. he isnt around when ben sees the monster and when the monster tells him to follow locke. (or simply he said 'follow me')

though i think we've been over that.

just read that they might not have shows during the winter olympics.

and i too will stay away from spoilers
faraway
QUOTE (b*derty @ Oct 26 2009, 01:14 PM) *
just reread the synopsis about 'jacob's enemy' on lostpedia and realized:
Spoiler/NSFW: click to show/hide
that the enemy is the smoke monster. he knows locke's past since he saw into locke's soul. he isnt around when ben sees the monster and when the monster tells him to follow locke. (or simply he said 'follow me')


i agree, i've been thinking this since the episode aired. i think the convo between jacob's enemy and jacob at the beach pointed to this conclusion also. here's a video someone made about the theory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ghX3vZHLg...re=channel_page
Montana
QUOTE (Michael K. @ Aug 6 2009, 04:32 PM) *
s2 is better than s1



Yes.
Montana
QUOTE (TaxiDriver @ Aug 14 2009, 08:07 AM) *
QUOTE (Dread @ Aug 13 2009, 11:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Michael K. @ Aug 6 2009, 02:32 PM) *
s2 is better than s1


Eww, no.



I agree with this man. The first season is loaded with excellent, often powerful flashbacks, that make it one of my favorite seasons for any show. In season 2, most flashbacks are shorter, add to the earlier flashbacks, but are less riveting. I like season two, but the first one is incredible.



Two words:


Mr. Eko.
Montana
QUOTE (Dread @ Aug 17 2009, 04:31 PM) *
Plus we started to have main characters do stupid things (which I refuse to believe was "part of the masterplan" and more along of the line of poor writing decisions) and a huge chunk of time wasted on characters that, as of right now, never even mattered because they were all killed off and weren't all that engaging even if they hadn't died (except Mr. Eko). Overall it was still a good show, but also a bit shaky at times. If it had been better, millions of people wouldn't have stopped watching out of sheer frustration and boredom. I hung around because I don't have a short attention span like those millions, and so did countless others. That was a good thing, because it got really good again after six or so episodes into season 3 and for the most part has remained on-track barring a few minor scrapes and hiccups.



Completely disagree. IMHO season 2 has been the best so far, consistently. The hatch was brilliant. The "button" plot was enthralling. The season finale was easily the best so far in the series. We got introduced to the three best characters in the show in Desmond, Mr. Eko and Ben. Also, DUI girl put on a pretty powerful performance(forget her name).

Basically, there was a very taut line of tension extended throughout the entire season. The whole thing was managed like an expert episode of the Twilight Zone.
Angrimorfee
S2 kept people's interest going heavier than they had the previous season. That's an astounding achievement in a sophomore year for any serial drama tv series. (Twin Peaks, folks.)
faraway
S2 was great but also the most inconsistent season. For every "The Other 48 Days", "One of Them", and "The 23rd Psalm" there was a "Fire + Water", "Abandoned", and "...And Found". The season 3 finale was by far the better finale, and maybe the best episode ever imo.
b*derty
QUOTE (farawaysoclose @ Oct 26 2009, 11:22 AM) *
QUOTE (b*derty @ Oct 26 2009, 01:14 PM) *
just reread the synopsis about 'jacob's enemy' on lostpedia and realized:
Spoiler/NSFW: click to show/hide
that the enemy is the smoke monster. he knows locke's past since he saw into locke's soul. he isnt around when ben sees the monster and when the monster tells him to follow locke. (or simply he said 'follow me')


i agree, i've been thinking this since the episode aired. i think the convo between jacob's enemy and jacob at the beach pointed to this conclusion also. here's a video someone made about the theory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ghX3vZHLg...re=channel_page

he's on the money.
but i think that i disagree with his stance on hurley.
tjenz
I think he’s OTM, including the Hurley theory.

There is a reason Jacob wants these specific 815’ers on the island.
I think Hurley’s ability to see the dead will somehow allow him to see through the fake Locke’s disguise.
b*derty
QUOTE (America @ Oct 27 2009, 09:40 AM) *
I think he’s OTM, including the Hurley theory.

There is a reason Jacob wants these specific 815’ers on the island.
I think Hurley’s ability to see the dead will somehow allow him to see through the fake Locke’s disguise.

that makes sense.
but i dont want hurley to be THAT crazy.
i get that hes bummed by all the bad stuff that happens so he wanted to be safe so he
checked into a hospital. but i dont want him to be so crazy that he sees dead people
if what he was seeing was always the smoke monster then i feel hurley becomes less crazy, which is what i would lilke.

but your idea makes sense and i can see it happening. if and when all the losties meet up.
Mr. Sinistro
I don't think the final episode will mean much of anything, not as much as some episode before it. I really don't think they can or intend to wrap up everything in a final episode with a big WOW moment. The big climax will come a few episodes before the end, and it will slowly wind down to a casual ending.

Personally, I don't think the climax to the show will be nearly as excited as I once did during Season 2 or 3. The direction the story is going now, I don't think it's that interesting. Well, it's interesting, just not as good as it could have been. I agree with what someone said earlier - the button pushing and saving the world, that would have been a great direction. But (drawing a blank on the finale from last season) the whole good vs. evil thing, and the aspects going so far back in history, it's just kind of boring. Anyone agree?
theremin
QUOTE (Mr. Sinistro @ Oct 29 2009, 07:33 PM) *
I don't think the final episode will mean much of anything, not as much as some episode before it. I really don't think they can or intend to wrap up everything in a final episode with a big WOW moment. The big climax will come a few episodes before the end, and it will slowly wind down to a casual ending.


I used to feel the same way about this, but now that I hear they may continue the stories in other mediums (books, comics, etc), I'm not sure I agree.
petras
QUOTE (Montana @ Oct 26 2009, 01:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Dread @ Aug 17 2009, 04:31 PM) *
Plus we started to have main characters do stupid things (which I refuse to believe was "part of the masterplan" and more along of the line of poor writing decisions) and a huge chunk of time wasted on characters that, as of right now, never even mattered because they were all killed off and weren't all that engaging even if they hadn't died (except Mr. Eko). Overall it was still a good show, but also a bit shaky at times. If it had been better, millions of people wouldn't have stopped watching out of sheer frustration and boredom. I hung around because I don't have a short attention span like those millions, and so did countless others. That was a good thing, because it got really good again after six or so episodes into season 3 and for the most part has remained on-track barring a few minor scrapes and hiccups.



Completely disagree. IMHO season 2 has been the best so far, consistently. The hatch was brilliant. The "button" plot was enthralling. The season finale was easily the best so far in the series. We got introduced to the three best characters in the show in Desmond, Mr. Eko and Ben. Also, DUI girl put on a pretty powerful performance(forget her name).

Basically, there was a very taut line of tension extended throughout the entire season. The whole thing was managed like an expert episode of the Twilight Zone.


Pretty spot on, Ben and Desmond are easily my favorite characters in the show. Every time Ben was on screen it was some of the best television I've ever seen. And the button was just a maddening ball of intrigue. To say nothing of the hidden map.


QUOTE (Mr. Sinistro @ Oct 29 2009, 07:33 PM) *
I don't think the final episode will mean much of anything, not as much as some episode before it. I really don't think they can or intend to wrap up everything in a final episode with a big WOW moment. The big climax will come a few episodes before the end, and it will slowly wind down to a casual ending.

Personally, I don't think the climax to the show will be nearly as excited as I once did during Season 2 or 3. The direction the story is going now, I don't think it's that interesting. Well, it's interesting, just not as good as it could have been. I agree with what someone said earlier - the button pushing and saving the world, that would have been a great direction. But (drawing a blank on the finale from last season) the whole good vs. evil thing, and the aspects going so far back in history, it's just kind of boring. Anyone agree?


I dunno the writers/producers have strongly hinted there will be a big wow climax. One of them said something like "you'll go back and rewatch the series and think how did I not see all of this" that's not an exact quote but that's the gist of what was said. They made most of these comments about the ending around the time of the whole sopranos ending controversy. They basically said, it's not gonna be like that ending there's going to be a satisfying conclusion.
pigfuck
The ending of The Sopranos is probably the best 5 minutes of television I've ever seen
Valentine
Spanish trailer for season 6:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C56Lgl6DorM...player_embedded
stephen thomas erlewine
QUOTE (Monsieur Valentine @ Nov 30 2009, 01:10 PM) *



holy shit. this is awesome.
nagode
QUOTE (stephen thomas erlewine @ Nov 30 2009, 01:01 PM) *
QUOTE (Monsieur Valentine @ Nov 30 2009, 01:10 PM) *



holy shit. this is awesome.


great song choice and love the graphic with the egyptian statue getting put down by the hand of God
petras
How do you make an awesome trailer without any new footage....this is how. Sweet trailer.

Tracy Jacks
La Partida Empieza Y Termina!
faraway
So freakin' cool. "where men are pawns of God" = amazing.
Valentine
Yeah, I'm pumped again. "The game begins and ends" is further reason for me to believe that we will deal with alternate time lines this season, thanks to good ol' jughead.
pigfuck
perdidos.

thread title finally makes sense
nagode
watched the new star trek last night....i dug it but man jj abrams is obsessed with time travel and parallel universes...between lost, fringe and star trek its like he grew up with A Brief History of Time in his hands instead of the berenstein bears
Valentine
What kind of power does Abrams actually have over Lost? I always thought that Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have been calling the shots concerning the overall direction of the show.
nagode
QUOTE (Monsieur Valentine @ Dec 9 2009, 12:35 PM) *
What kind of power does Abrams actually have over Lost? I always thought that Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have been calling the shots concerning the overall direction of the show.


depends on whether you think they knew the direction of the show at the begining or whether theyve been figuring out this storyline by the seat of its pants

i could see jj laying out the basic plotline from the beginging including the time travel twist we encountered last season and the other guys have been filling in the gaps
faraway
This interview sheds some light on the JJ Abrams question:


TVGuide.com: Tell me about how each of you got involved with Lost.
Damon Lindelof: I got a call from an executive at ABC named Heather Kadin. It was late January. She was tasked with trying to coerce J.J. Abrams into rewriting a script that they had about a plane that had crashed on an island. J.J. said that he did not have time to do this because he was writing another pilot for ABC at the time and running Alias and trying to launch his feature career.

[Since I was a] stalker of J.J. and his work, Heather basically felt like this was a prime opportunity to put me in a room with him, even if the project went nowhere. I jumped at the chance. I met with J.J. on a Monday afternoon and we ended up geeking out for four hours, and five days later we had the outline for Lost. Ten weeks after that, we had the two-hour premiere completed.

***

TVGuide.com: Have you always known what the end of the series would be? Has it changed at all?
Cuse: Always is the operative word. We developed a mythology, as I said earlier, in the first season and between the first and the second season, and we're actually moving toward that exact end point. I mean, that has not changed. Certain details of how the show ends have evolved over time but that's mainly on a character level as we've gotten to know the characters and seen how the actors interact. So there are parts of the ending that are still living and breathing, but the actual mythological endpoint has been constant since we developed the show.
petras
I think the "Adam and Eve" skeletons from season 1 are going to end up more or less proving that time travel was a concept on the show from the get go. But yeah J.J. does seem a tad obsessed with the whole time travel/alternate universe thing. Maybe that's why he's no longer interested in doing the Dark Tower, he's getting sick of all that stuff.
tjenz
nagode
QUOTE (TJENZ @ Jan 6 2010, 12:07 PM) *


wheres juliet???

some interesting choices on there
nagode
is the table top a wing? i feel like i need to study this pic for hours
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
QUOTE (nagode @ Jan 6 2010, 12:21 PM) *
QUOTE (TJENZ @ Jan 6 2010, 12:07 PM) *


wheres juliet???

some interesting choices on there


Vaporized in a nuclear blast, presumably.
Bob Loblaw
Definitely some interesting choices and omissions. I bet the new season starts off with a scene involving several "dead" characters, like Boone, Shannon, Doc Arntz, Ana Lucia, etc. FOr a while I had convinced myself that the white light was just another time jump, but that's not going to happen. The writers will have a lot of fun with all the various ways a reset will play out.

I wonder if Michael will be back. He badmouthed the writers and producers for killing off his character, which even at the time I thought was very shortsighted, given that no one on this show every stays dead. I don't see them bringing back Eko or Michael, although I would be somewhat unfulfilled if Walt doesn't play some part in the overall scheme by the end. Not sure how they'll do that however, since he's the least likely actor to be included in a reset scenario. The time travel plot made sense of his dramatic physical changes, but it would be awesome if they had the foresight to film some season six Walt scenes back in like 2005.
faraway
QUOTE (Bob Loblaw @ Jan 6 2010, 12:42 PM) *
The time travel plot made sense of his dramatic physical changes, but it would be awesome if they had the foresight to film some season six Walt scenes back in like 2005.


There's rumours of a secret walt scene out there, but I think that's unlikely.

My personal prediction for the new season is that time will be reset and they'll arrive at LAX but somehow they will retain all their memories. I expect they'll all be back on the island soon enough though. I also expect lots of cameos from season 1 castmembers.
Bob Loblaw
I totally agree.
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Especially now that I know the name of the first episode of season six is LA X.


There's no way they can move forward without leaving at least traces of memories behind in each character. If they just reset it, then I'm not sure how they would work characters like Desmond back into the plot. Although, given that the reset looks like a given, it's interesting that Lapidus is in this picture. He was originally brought into the plot because of the wreckage coverup. If the wreck never happens, it seems like he would never figure into the season six plot.
petras
QUOTE (farawaysoclose @ Jan 6 2010, 02:04 PM) *
QUOTE (Bob Loblaw @ Jan 6 2010, 12:42 PM) *
The time travel plot made sense of his dramatic physical changes, but it would be awesome if they had the foresight to film some season six Walt scenes back in like 2005.


There's rumours of a secret walt scene out there, but I think that's unlikely.

My personal prediction for the new season is that time will be reset and they'll arrive at LAX but somehow they will retain all their memories. I expect they'll all be back on the island soon enough though. I also expect lots of cameos from season 1 castmembers.


I'm not so sure they'll head back to the island if there's a time reset. I mean we already had the "lets all get back to the island" season. If they spend a bunch of time in season 6 trying to get back to the island it will feel like a retread.

I personally can't fathom how the writers are going to pull off a time reset and make it somehow lead to an end point for the series. A time reset that also resets the memories will erase 5 seasons of character progression. Charlie will still be an addict, Jin and Sun will still be in a bad place...etc etc etc. To say nothing of children like Penny and Desmonds boy ceasing to exist.

One quote sticks out in my mind from rewatching the series recently in season 3 when Desmond is told "the universe has a way of course correcting itself" That leads me to believe there is no way to stop the plane crash.

And yet all signs do point to a time reset. I just have no idea how they are going to pull it off.

Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
OK, let's have a show of hands: How many people really believe they'll have any of their outstanding questions answered by the time all is said and done?

Despite promises to the contrary, I'll be surprised if they even attempt answering most of them.
Tracy Jacks
I continue to believe that blowing up the nuke stopped The Incident from going out of control, very similar to when Desmond turned the key to stop the hatch from going out of control a 2nd time. In both cases a white flash was generated, and the Juliet nuke white flash will time travel the LOSTies to some point in time, probably close to their original time but maybe not the exact moment when they first time traveled.

The arrival at LAX continues to not make any sense to me for countless reasons:

- Walt will also arrive at LAX presumably not having gone through puberty. I hope they are budgeted for CGI
- Most of the characters will have any reason to return to the island, and lots of reasons not to. Kate, for one, will have trouble getting back to the island when locked in a jail. Juliet could be a reason for Sawyer or Jack to go back, I admit. Locke may go back in order to walk again. Rose to cure her cancer, but maybe not too. But why would Kate, Charlie, Jin, Sun, Hurley, Sayid, Claire, Walt, Michael etc. go back? They have no stake in the island.
- Are Boone, Shannon, Charlie, Walt, Michael, Nikki, Paulo, etc. suddenly going to return the show? Can all of these people have been hired for episode 1 and gone through filming without a single rumor turning up.
- Anything that happened last season involving Locke will not have happened yet, so Ben will not have (maybe) killed Jacob, among other things. Why show us that plot line then? How will the writers get back to the Jacob/Man In Black battle when none of the LOSTies are there or care?
- Dead people like Charlie and Locke would come back to life, but this would also throw away other plot lines like Jin and Sun conceiving a child. Desmond and Penny will not have reunited, making meaningless what was probably the single best episode. The LAX arrival reset has elements of Pam stepping out of the shower, and I don't think any show will risk that disaster again.

Not to mention that the Lindelof and Cuse have pretty much ruled out a time reset, although they continue to tease that it might happen.
Valentine
There's no way they'll make it that messy. I'm thinking that within the first few episodes, a short stint with an alternate timeline (one where the plane lands) will be combined with the current storyline on the island picking up after Jacob's death.
killerparties
QUOTE (kiss_the_floor @ Jan 6 2010, 04:56 PM) *
OK, let's have a show of hands: How many people really believe they'll have any of their outstanding questions answered by the time all is said and done?

Despite promises to the contrary, I'll be surprised if they even attempt answering most of them.


Have you even watched the last two seasons? They have been wrapping up mysteries and plotlines left and right. I figure that there might be some small grievances, but most of the big mysteries will tie-in decently.
nagode
Season 6 (2010)
Main article: Lost (season 6)

ABC has announced that Lost will premiere on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 at 9PM EST, TVGuide.com has confirmed.[65]

On May 7, 2007, ABC Entertainment President Stephen McPherson announced that Lost will end during the 2009–2010 season with a "highly anticipated and shocking finale."[66] "We felt that this was the only way to give Lost a proper creative conclusion," McPherson said.[66] Beginning with the 2007–2008 television season, the final 48 episodes would have been aired as three seasons with 16 episodes each, with Lost concluding in its sixth season. Due to the writers' strike, the fourth season featured 14 episodes, and Season 5 had 17 episodes. Season 6 was planned to have 17 episodes, too.[11] However, on June 29 it was announced that the final season will feature an additional hour, making the number of episodes 18.[67]

Executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse stated that they "always envisioned Lost as a show with a beginning, middle, and end," and that by announcing when the show would end that viewers would "have the security of knowing that the story will play out as we've intended."[66] Lindelof and Cuse stated that securing the 2010 series-end date "was immensely liberating" and helped the series rediscover its focus.[68] Lindelof noted, "We're no longer stalling."[68] The producers also plan to wrap up long-standing mysteries, such as the nature of the smoke monster, the four-toed statue of Taweret, the identity of the Adam & Eve skeletons from the season one episode "House of the Rising Sun",[69] and the reason the Dharma periodic resupply drops continue after the purge.[70] Lindelof has also indicated that Walt's unusual abilities may be explained, although this may not necessarily require the character's direct involvement.[61] Matthew Fox stated in an interview that in the final season, the characters of Jack Shephard and John Locke "will come head to head." A third of the way through the final season, the two time lines will be "solidified into one" and "will be very linear – no more flashbacks, nothing." [71] He has also claimed to be the only cast member who knows the ending of the series,[72] though Lindelof has clarified that Fox only knows things that are relevant to his character.[73]

During Comic-Con 2009, numerous sixth season reports were made. Carlton Cuse stated both the time travel and flash-forward seasons were over, and they're moving into something different for the sixth season.[74] Josh Holloway stated his character Sawyer would revert to his old self after the loss of Juliet.[74] Though Cuse and Lindelof stated that the Dharma Initiativewill no longer play a large role in the show,[75] they have said that the "Dharma-Michigan connection" will play a significant role in season six.[76] Lindelof has stated that the producers had a direct hand in the production of the season six promotional poster that was first displayed at Comic-Con, and that everything in it is intentional; he also made a reference to the Abbey Road cover in connection to the poster.[61] Season six is the first and only season of Lost ever to not feature any kind of preview or official promotional material such as sneak peeks and promo pictures for future episodes since the Lost producers considers any single frame from the first episodes to be too revealing. According to Lindelof, "even a single scene from the show would basically tip what it is we're doing this year, and what it is we're doing this year is different than what we've done in other years".[77][78][79]

nagode
from a lost board in reference to the last supper promo:

Jack is in Thomas' place, which echoes the scene (and painting) in the Lamppost. The canonical Gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John) place John the Baptist's death before the crucifixion, and he was never officially an apostle, but was rather considered the last prophet. John the Apostle was a much younger man than John the Baptist. To further complicate matters, most contemporary biblical scholars now say that John of Patmos, who wrote the Gospel of Saint John, was a third distinct historical figure.

Anyway, Sawyer is closest to Locke's right hand, and he's leaning on Kate's shoulder, which i think it supposed to be similar to how John in the painting swoons. Sawyer maps well to John the Apostle, as well, because Sawyer's faith in Locke is extraordinarily deep. After three years of waiting, Sawyer still has Miles and Jin searching the island grid-by-grid, watching and waiting for Locke's return. Three days after Jesus' death, John still believed, still waited for the Assumption.

The positions of the players to the central figures' right hands are shifted somewhat. In The Last Supper, Peter leans toward Jesus as Judas leans away, and the difference in their physical dispositions actually places Peter's head closer to Jesus than Judas', though Judas' body is closer than Peter's.

Kate sits in Judas' seat, with Sayid in Peter's. They lean in the same directions as their Leonardan counterparts: Kate leans back a bit, with Sawyer leaning on her shoulder; and Sayid leans toward Locke a bit. They're not actually juxtaposed in the photo nearly as dramatically as Judas and Peter are in the painting. In fact, their heads are in opposite positions. So perhaps they are in opposite roles: Kate as Peter, who after initially trusting in Locke (remember she was the first one down the Hatch), has now denied him three times (on the island, off the island, and back on the island again ("Do you know who you sound like? Because he was crazy too!")). Will she now recognize the resurrection? Are the '77 Losties Jacob's, "They," who, "Are coming?"

That would leave us with Sayid as Judas. There are a couple of ways to make that work, but they're all a bit of a stretch. The best that i've come up with so far is that when Sayid lost his faith, he committed a heinous act, and without that act, Ben wouldn't have grown up to murder Locke.

Claire, like Andrew, leans back slightly, looking surprised. If i remember correctly, the story goes that Andrew didn't immediately believe Jesus' claim that he would be betrayed, and in the painting he's denying the possibility of such an act from a trusted member of the coven (i use this term in its literal sense only). Thomas is remembered as the doubter, though, of course, for his initial refusal to believe in the resurrection.

The two on the end are identified as James The Less (or James Minor) and Bartholomew. James Minor is probably best known for being martyred in Jerusalem for preaching in 62 AD. Bartholomew is listed as a disciple who saw the assumption in each canonical gospel, but that's about it. He doesn't appear in the Acts of the Apostles, nor apparently anywhere else in the canonical gospels nor missives. The two Lost characters in those spots are Richard and Ilana, two characters about whom we know very little. The stances are switched, however. James Minor sits, Richard stands; Bartholomew stands, Ilana sits. So perhaps Ilana will be martyred soon.

At the other far end sits Simon the Zealot, who's counterpart is Frank. Fittingly, we again know little of either. The rest of the freighter science crew, other than Frank (and Naomi i guess... *shrug*), we now know had some background on the island. Miles was born there, Daniel was conceived there, Charlotte was at least partially raised there, and each had reason to believe they would find answers there. We still have to learn if Frank has been there before, but he also was looking for answers. I admit, it's also a bit of a stretch. Unlike Simon, Frank stands.

Moving in one more space, we come to Jude Thaddeus, patron saint of desperate cases and lost causes. In his place sits Miles, who communicates with dead persons.

Next to Jack/Thomas, Jin sits in the seat of James Major, John's older brother. I think this might just be a play on words. James was known as James the Greater to distinguish him from the lesser known James, whose spot at the Lost Supper is held by Alpert. So they are distinguishing Alpert from Djinn. Djinni, of course, are ageless beings of incredible power. I guess we shouldn't confuse the ageless Alpert with them.

That leaves us with Matthew the Evangelist, and two possible suspects: Hurley and Sun. Matthew was a tax collector before becoming an apostle, and he is often credited with writing the first New Testament Gospel. Hurley seems to map closer to that, having collected a large sum of money before going to Australia. He also has displayed a penchant for writing.

Sun is the odd woman out. Having 14 people instead of 13 might be a nod to Dan Brown's DaVinci Code, which goes into the Mary Magdalene depicted in the heretical gospels as a full-fledged apostle in her own right. She was also believed by some to be, as LissaMarie pointed out, the Holy Grail. In that context, she was the Holy Grail because she bore the blood of Christ unto the next generation, by bearing him children. According to those stories, the bloodline of Christ was considered sacred by the few who knew, but was also kept secret from the world in general.

Jin was sterile. We've had mention of immaculate conception on Lost before. And a whole lot of trouble was gone to to get Aaron and/or Ji Yeon safely off that island.

I dunno. Hopefully somebody enjoys reading all of this half as much as i enjoyed writing it.

I'd like to add that i think fun is being poked at the expense of a multitude of fans who are convinced that Locke is the center of the story. The photo is clearly not intended to be considered part of the canon of Lost, it's just a fun idea tptb toyed around with. That's only my opinion, of course.

But i don't think Locke is going to be The Messiah of anything. Poor dead bastard (i also use this term only in its literal sense).

petras
QUOTE (nagode @ Jan 12 2010, 02:37 PM) *
Jin was sterile. We've had mention of immaculate conception on Lost before. And a whole lot of trouble was gone to to get Aaron and/or Ji Yeon safely off that island.


Jin was sterile but Juliette said that on the island the mens sperm count was astronomically high, so Ji Yeon at least has a scientific conception. But they have indeed mentioned immaculate conception on the show before and given all the fertility symbolism and all the parenting issues explored over the shows lifespan i'm certain that something like that will come into play in the last season.

tjenz
speaking of conception....
I still don't think we really know who Locke's daddy is.

I don't think it was the guy Locke gave a kidney to. I think it was the man in black.
stephen thomas erlewine
in actual news. press conference today confirmed harold p's involvement in the final season.
Bob Loblaw
QUOTE (stephen thomas erlewine @ Jan 12 2010, 03:51 PM) *
in actual news. press conference today confirmed harold p's involvement in the final season.



And Libby.
petras
QUOTE (Bob Loblaw @ Jan 12 2010, 04:21 PM) *
QUOTE (stephen thomas erlewine @ Jan 12 2010, 03:51 PM) *
in actual news. press conference today confirmed harold p's involvement in the final season.



And Libby.


Thank god. I really wanna see her story finished.

idolatry
QUOTE (TJENZ @ Jan 12 2010, 02:44 PM) *
speaking of conception....
I still don't think we really know who Locke's daddy is.

I don't think it was the guy Locke gave a kidney to. I think it was the man in black.


I really hope that nu-Locke is Locke's dad. Shit would be buck-ass wild.
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