Only 15% of those who go into Cardiac Arrest outside of a hospital survive.
Merle
Jun 25 2009, 04:04 PM
Did you have to look up that statistic?
badger5000
Jun 25 2009, 04:16 PM
A heart attack. Riiight. I wonder what the odds were on him not even starting his London residency. Not long I imagine.
Dag Nasty
Jun 25 2009, 04:18 PM
QUOTE (Waylon @ Jun 25 2009, 04:04 PM)
Did you have to look up that statistic?
Tony
Jun 25 2009, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (Waylon @ Jun 25 2009, 04:04 PM)
Did you have to look up that statistic?
Minutes Late
Jun 25 2009, 04:39 PM
get ready for the world's largest ticket refund of all time.
kingsleadhat
Jun 25 2009, 04:44 PM
TMZ is saying he didn't make it
Tony
Jun 25 2009, 04:46 PM
According to NBC News, the "Today" show spoke with Michael Jackson's office and they said the TMZ report is absolutely untrue and that he is in the studio working on a song with a very catchy chorus.
TSLOW
Jun 25 2009, 04:56 PM
Joe Buck's favorite website is reporting he died.
What a long, strange trip it was.
n.k
Jun 25 2009, 05:02 PM
I've only been able to confirm that he died via TMZ; though People.com has an article that he is in the hospital here. What the fuck is going on... are there other reports?
Wolfgang
Jun 25 2009, 05:03 PM
Damn, two old white women in the same day.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و ب
Jun 25 2009, 05:06 PM
QUOTE (Wolfgang @ Jun 25 2009, 05:03 PM)
Damn, two old white women in the same day.
shame cock
Jun 25 2009, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (Ѡ҈҉Ѡ @ Jun 25 2009, 06:06 PM)
QUOTE (Wolfgang @ Jun 25 2009, 05:03 PM)
Damn, two old white women in the same day.
HewlettsDaughter
Jun 25 2009, 05:08 PM
remember a few years ago when Michael Jackson wanted to construct a giant Michael Jackson robot and have it roam the desert outside of Vegas?
I guess that idea will never come to fruition.
RIP
Tony
Jun 25 2009, 05:10 PM
Rumors now that it was suicide from sleeping pills.
metropolitician
Jun 25 2009, 05:11 PM
fuck.
longhairedfreak
Jun 25 2009, 05:12 PM
QUOTE (n.k @ Jun 25 2009, 05:02 PM)
I've only been able to confirm that he died via TMZ; though People.com has an article that he is in the hospital here. What the fuck is going on... are there other reports?
LOL CNN: "Michael Jackson has a following like the Grateful Dead"
RadioHitchcock
Jun 25 2009, 05:14 PM
i heard he died and then they revived him from the dead and now he is alive.
kingsleadhat
Jun 25 2009, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (RadioHitchcock @ Jun 25 2009, 05:14 PM)
i heard he died and then they revived him from the dead and now he is alive.
Sorry
n.k
Jun 25 2009, 05:19 PM
QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 25 2009, 03:10 PM)
Rumors now that it was suicide from sleeping pills.
Can you give a fucking link?
kingsleadhat
Jun 25 2009, 05:23 PM
LA Times now says he's dead
cerebralheadtrip
Jun 25 2009, 05:27 PM
shame cock
Jun 25 2009, 05:30 PM
n.k
Jun 25 2009, 05:33 PM
Just saw that his death was confirmed on E! While he's a weirdo, I still love his music. Sad day.
skamatrix
Jun 25 2009, 05:34 PM
QUOTE (kingsleadhat @ Jun 25 2009, 03:23 PM)
LA Times now says he's dead
Confirmed.
Truly sad day
Aerodynamics
Jun 25 2009, 05:34 PM
QUOTE (n.k @ Jun 25 2009, 05:33 PM)
Just saw that his death was confirmed on E! While he's a weirdo, I still love his music. Sad day.
... was a weirdo.
Tony
Jun 25 2009, 05:40 PM
petras
Jun 25 2009, 05:45 PM
Well fuck. I was really hoping he was gonna release one last killer album that would redeem himself of the last 15 years of bullshit that's surrounded him. So much for that . Pretty sad day, love him or hate him when he was at his best and his worst you just couldn't ignore him.
Aerodynamics
Jun 25 2009, 05:48 PM
Rest in peace, Michael.
I'll never forget playing Castlevania II: Simon's Quest with 'Thriller' on repeat for hours on end.
Rob Gordon
Jun 25 2009, 05:48 PM
Playing it loud, starting with the Jackson 5. I'll be playing lots of it at my gigs this weekend.
kingsleadhat
Jun 25 2009, 05:55 PM
NP: Remember The Time
idolatry
Jun 25 2009, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (petras @ Jun 25 2009, 05:45 PM)
Well fuck. I was really hoping he was gonna release one last killer album that would redeem himself of the last 15 years of bullshit that's surrounded him. So much for that . Pretty sad day, love him or hate him when he was at his best and his worst you just couldn't ignore him.
Could not possibly agree more. I cannot believe this. Wow. My childhood is officially dead. What a terribly sad day...first Farrah, now Michael.
amnesious
Jun 25 2009, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (Aerodynamics @ Jun 25 2009, 05:48 PM)
Rest in peace, Michael.
I'll never forget playing Castlevania II: Simon's Quest with 'Thriller' on repeat for hours on end.
had totally forgotten about that till just then, played that game for ages also RIP
theminimumcircus
Jun 25 2009, 06:00 PM
Seriously. No one was more talented than this guy. Fuck anyone who says bad shit about him in this thread. Gravitas, pricks. He was your better.
bleach
Jun 25 2009, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (theminimumcircus @ Jun 25 2009, 06:00 PM)
Seriously. No one was more talented than this guy. Fuck anyone who says bad shit about him in this thread. Gravitas, pricks. He was your better.
grew up a huge fan of this dude, celebrated the moonwalk with everybody else but most of those fond memories have been wiped out when he started up with the kid shit. it's a shame, because he was probably a victim of some sort himself when he was a child and we can probably blame pops for that but eh, whatever i don't see how you can say a guy who got kids drunk so they could suck his dick was anybody's "better". fuck mike. and o yea...
PRINCE WINS!!!!
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
Jun 25 2009, 06:09 PM
They say there's one in every crowd. Guess I'll strap it on and be it in this one:
Depending on age, Jackson means different things to different people. To me, he's the author of two great, amazing solo records and... that's pretty much it. Post-Thriller, I see a guy who tried to con American newspapers into running full page ads for the Victory tour free b/c they "constituted a public service announcement."
I see a guy whose phenomenal success came largely on the backs of poor, urban Americans, a demo he thanked by charging $120 for a mandatory four tickets to each show of that same tour. (In 1984, $120 for almost any amount of tickets, for almost any performer, was obscene.) I see a guy who believed his own hype and launched this ridiculous tour without ever bothering to make sure it would be worth the price (reviews at the time were almost uniformly horrible.)
I see a guy who went on to make two records which divide opinion (I thought they more or less sucked; millions disagree) and proceeded to disappear farther and farther up his own arsehole.
I see a pedophile. I see a guy almost wholly undeserving of the adulation he received in life and whose sense of entitlement was so far out of proportion to his talent that it eclipsed and consumed any good will I might have left for him.
I do not doubt his fans' and family's grief, nor do I wish to spit on it. I do not share it, however. Before we waft him into the halls of greatness, let's remember all of who and what this guy was.
Word to theminimumcircus: The day a kiddie diddler is mine or anyone's better is the day I eat the corn out of your shit.
TSLOW
Jun 25 2009, 06:13 PM
B/c I'm an idiot and/or b/c the YouTube embed on this board sucks, I couldn't post his Motown 25 performance.
So, just go ahead and picture it in your head.
theminimumcircus
Jun 25 2009, 06:13 PM
I don't care if he molested you brainstorm, he was an artist that no one ever came close to besting when he was at his finest. Tons of artists have done some odious shit, but really, I excuse it--ars longa.
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
Jun 25 2009, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (theminimumcircus @ Jun 25 2009, 06:13 PM)
I don't care if he molested you brainstorm, he was an artist that no one ever came close to besting when he was at his finest. Tons of artists have done some odious shit, but really, I excuse it--ars longa.
Quite apart from what kind of person this makes you (one I never, ever want to meet) at MJ's best he was aided and abetted by Quincy Jones to a degree which belies your views.
Aerodynamics
Jun 25 2009, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (kiss_the_floor @ Jun 25 2009, 06:09 PM)
I see a guy whose phenomenal success came largely on the backs of poor, urban Americans, a demo he thanked by charging $120 for a mandatory four tickets to each show of that same tour. (In 1984, $120 for almost any amount of tickets, for almost any performer, was obscene.) I see a guy who believed his own hype and launched this ridiculous tour without ever bothering to make sure it would be worth the price (reviews at the time were almost uniformly horrible.)
Wrong side of the bed this morning?
Rob Gordon
Jun 25 2009, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (TSLOW @ Jun 25 2009, 07:13 PM)
B/c I'm an idiot and/or b/c the YouTube embed on this board sucks, I couldn't post his Motown 25 performance.
So, just go ahead and picture it in your head.
TSLOW
Jun 25 2009, 06:17 PM
QUOTE (Rob Gordon @ Jun 25 2009, 06:16 PM)
QUOTE (TSLOW @ Jun 25 2009, 07:13 PM)
B/c I'm an idiot and/or b/c the YouTube embed on this board sucks, I couldn't post his Motown 25 performance.
So, just go ahead and picture it in your head.
Stay away people! This man is a wizard! A conjuror!
{or just understands the internet}
I remember watching this as a kid and being blown away.
theminimumcircus
Jun 25 2009, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (kiss_the_floor @ Jun 25 2009, 06:15 PM)
QUOTE (theminimumcircus @ Jun 25 2009, 06:13 PM)
I don't care if he molested you brainstorm, he was an artist that no one ever came close to besting when he was at his finest. Tons of artists have done some odious shit, but really, I excuse it--ars longa.
Quite apart from what kind of person this makes you (one I never, ever want to meet) at MJ's best he was aided and abetted by Quincy Jones to a degree which belies your views.
Give me a break you sanctimonious fool. The only reason you could possibly have for hating Jackson versus admiring his accomplishments is if he fucked your face. Your imagination can't conjure empathy for some kid you don't even know.
flinchy17
Jun 25 2009, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (kiss_the_floor @ Jun 25 2009, 06:09 PM)
They say there's one in every crowd. Guess I'll strap it on and be it in this one:
Depending on age, Jackson means different things to different people. To me, he's the author of two great, amazing solo records and... that's pretty much it.
It's just easy to say that he signifies a celebrity who gave millions upon millions of dollars to charities for Alcohol/Drug abuse, to helping conditions to Africa, and who released some remarkable pop music which changed the music scene that we know. And after becoming arguably the most famous man in the world the fame changed him.
Fame either freaks people out or makes them freaks. I just wonder how different people's reactions would have been if he took the Cobain way out.
As for the pedophile shit. I have no idea. I think the last one in the 2000's was a cashgrab, but I have no idea about previous offenses, I was too young
Minutes Late
Jun 25 2009, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (kiss_the_floor @ Jun 25 2009, 06:09 PM)
They say there's one in every crowd. Guess I'll strap it on and be it in this one:
Depending on age, Jackson means different things to different people. To me, he's the author of two great, amazing solo records and... that's pretty much it. Post-Thriller, I see a guy who tried to con American newspapers into running full page ads for the Victory tour free b/c they "constituted a public service announcement."
I see a guy whose phenomenal success came largely on the backs of poor, urban Americans, a demo he thanked by charging $120 for a mandatory four tickets to each show of that same tour. (In 1984, $120 for almost any amount of tickets, for almost any performer, was obscene.) I see a guy who believed his own hype and launched this ridiculous tour without ever bothering to make sure it would be worth the price (reviews at the time were almost uniformly horrible.)
I see a guy who went on to make two records which divide opinion (I thought they more or less sucked; millions disagree) and proceeded to disappear farther and farther up his own arsehole.
I see a pedophile. I see a guy almost wholly undeserving of the adulation he received in life and whose sense of entitlement was so far out of proportion to his talent that it eclipsed and consumed any good will I might have left for him.
I do not doubt his fans' and family's grief, nor do I wish to spit on it. I do not share it, however. Before we waft him into the halls of greatness, let's remember all of who and what this guy was.
Word to theminimumcircus: The day a kiddie diddler is mine or anyone's better is the day I eat the corn out of your shit.
Man, you really are an asshole. And don't know much about music if you're just counting "two divisive records." Catch up with 68-79 sometime. Guy was abused from day one and never given a chance to lead a normal life. And still changed music.
TSLOW
Jun 25 2009, 06:22 PM
He certainly leaves an incredibly complicated personal legacy.
But Off the Wall and Thriller are up there with the all-time great albums. And his singing style is up there with Ol' Blue Eyes for technique, phrasing, emotion and originality.
Rob Gordon
Jun 25 2009, 06:23 PM
The correct response is somewhere in the middle.
Rob Gordon
Jun 25 2009, 06:26 PM
There's others who share his opinion. From a friend's (female) comment on facebook
"i don't cry for millionaires who spike kids's sodas with sauv blanc to touch young penis. his music sucked, his lifestyle was ignored and he could have just paid for sex. He chose to molest. p-y- T !!!"
kingsleadhat
Jun 25 2009, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (Rob Gordon @ Jun 25 2009, 06:16 PM)
Wow. They should just have this video looping on his tombstone.
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