i see this strange trend emerging where artists that you would expect to blow their load with one single and fade into oblivion forever are sticking around and releasing great and/or popular follow ups. Soulja Boy has at least three hits now, as few would have expected (i always thought he had more than "Crank That" in him, though). Katy Perry is still with us today. and now the star whose rise has been the fastest, and whose image consciousness will keep her in the public eye for awhile, THE GAGA.
i think paying her main focus to her fame and image instead of having an artistic vision is one of the common bonds of the truly big popular musicians. they're performers, not necessarily artists. clearly she is a pretty potent songwriter and musician. check some of her stripped down piano versions of the songs, such as:
but even so, for her it's about having an audience, not using the music as a creative release. as a result, the music lacks any sort of self-indulgence. any semblance of silly posturing. it's just music. and in her quest to become famous, she took her singing chops and her melodies and draped them in the synth heavy electro tones of modern popular music so that it's just really fucking enjoyable. "Lovegame", which is getting the radio play now, is my personal favorite, and i'm just starting to explore the whole of her album The Fame to see if the next couple of singles have greatness in store as well.
this is a thread about Lady Gaga, enjoy.
victor
Jul 23 2009, 02:53 PM
i dunno man. disco stick is like something from c+c music factory after freedom williams left
Ned
Jul 23 2009, 02:56 PM
Awesome.
I missed the explosion, then emerged in Hawaii and this was all that was playing round the club/bar scene. It blew my brain in half. In an awesome way. Her and Kanye doing that tour atop the giant gold agro-crag thing is going to be retarded. Seriously, every song. Straight. Popular. Music. Fire. Chrono otm.
Easily Fooled
Jul 23 2009, 02:56 PM
had no clue she could actually sing worth a damn and/or play an instrument
props
Ned
Jul 23 2009, 02:57 PM
I gave this kid the nickname disco stick, since he got really mad at the song when he heard his 5 year old daughter singing along. I am an asshole. He will be forever disco stick.
Ned
Jul 23 2009, 03:01 PM
We got a redlight Pornographic dance fight
Chronodiggity
Jul 23 2009, 03:02 PM
QUOTE (Easily Fooled @ Jul 23 2009, 12:56 PM)
had no clue she could actually sing worth a damn and/or play an instrument
props
she's a sellout in the best way possible. the world doesn't need another Regina Spektor
Chronodiggity
Jul 23 2009, 03:04 PM
when i was first hearing the "Just Dance" rounds during the Christmas holidays last year, i didn't like it at all.
BUT HERE I STAND TODAY WITH THE GAGA.
plaid
Jul 23 2009, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Jul 23 2009, 03:45 PM)
but even so, for her it's about having an audience, not using the music as a creative release.
i dunno, i thought it was pretty avant-garde when she put her leg up on the piano and hit all those random notes...
QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Jul 23 2009, 04:02 PM)
the girl can definitely play. she is clearly quite talented.
stphone
Jul 23 2009, 03:14 PM
in my experiences i've found her singles to be great on listens 1-10, but quickly losing steam soon after - more fun if you're drunk though (natch). that to say, i'm cool w her recent ascent in the pop charts
Undercooked Sausage
Jul 23 2009, 04:22 PM
no one likes lady gaga except perez hilton
Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 23 2009, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (FEDEXXXPOPE @ Jul 23 2009, 02:22 PM)
no one likes lady gaga except perez hilton
im gay
DrAftershave
Jul 23 2009, 04:28 PM
i didn't really care for her when "Just Dance" came out. wrote her off as another dance diva that did bland dance music. however, for months afterward that song and "Poker Face" would be played in rotation at the gym and after hearing them constantly there (like i had a choice) found them to be really catchy pop tunes with a disco beat. i've since warmed up to her work but i don't think i'll go out and buy her stuff.
Undercooked Sausage
Jul 23 2009, 04:29 PM
and kanye west
Shackleton's Great Adventure
Jul 23 2009, 04:32 PM
Queen influence definitely shows on the solo piano. Got a lil Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy / Killer Queen thang goin on. She took the name Ga Ga after the track Radio Ga Ga. I thought Just Dance got old pretty fast, but Pokerface grew on me.
Undercooked Sausage
Jul 23 2009, 04:41 PM
QUOTE (Chronodiggity @ Jul 23 2009, 02:45 PM)
any semblance of silly posturing
wow
Saskadelphia
Jul 23 2009, 04:45 PM
She's got a bit of a Dresden Dolls thing going on that solo piano performance.
Pat Sansone
Jul 23 2009, 04:50 PM
Just Dance and Lovegame are totally great singles. Really some of the only reasons i ever listen to the radio in the car these days. I'm a fan of the LG, no question
Mitchell
Jul 23 2009, 05:29 PM
I think she's clearly a Warholian exercise in the limits of pop music. Pretty sure she's in on it as well, see any interview with her for proof.
Ned
Jul 23 2009, 05:37 PM
QUOTE (John's Shack @ Jul 23 2009, 02:32 PM)
Got a lil Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy / Killer Queen thang goin on.
Holy fucking awesome songs. I love gaga, but I kind of wish she had more of a that kinda thang goin on. I kind of wish everybody sounded more like that.
Duff.
Jul 23 2009, 05:42 PM
I don't hate her or anything. Kinda just shrug at her existence. The fact that she could play the piano is neat I guess but pretty irrelevant to what kind of artist she is.
Ned
Jul 23 2009, 05:45 PM
QUOTE (Duff. @ Jul 23 2009, 03:42 PM)
I don't hate her or anything. Kinda just shrug at her existence. The fact that she could play the piano is neat I guess but pretty irrelevant to what kind of artist she is.
I tend to agree, but I think somebody like her picks up a lot of cred from the indie type folks by displaying that ability. Depends on how much value one places on that cred I guess.
Edit: agreement on the latter part, I mean. I love her for some weird reason. I cannot shrug at her existence.
Duff.
Jul 23 2009, 05:49 PM
Oh, you're absolutely right, and I think that's lame. Goes into Mitch's "she knows just what she's doing" theory.
The first time I heard of this chick was in some indie source, I forget where. Months before she blew up.
I respect the fact that she has no shame whatsoever. Like, when Christina Aguilera went all dirty, she was still mostly clothed, Gaga is just straight naked half the time, making out with chicks in her videos, wearing hotpants while walking down the street. That said, her music sucks a dog's dick.
HRTX
Jul 23 2009, 05:58 PM
I guess "Just Dance," "Paparazzi" and "Poker Face" are all fine pop songs but I can't stand "LoveGame". Tuneless, robotic vocals (not in a good way) with awful (not even bad enough to be "outrageous" or something equally gimmicky) lyrics.
Nick
Jul 23 2009, 06:02 PM
The "Disco Stick" song is probably one of the worst songs I've heard this decade. "Just Dance" & "Poker Face" are great. The little rap she does in "Poker Face" is really embarrassing though.
Cinnamon P.
Jul 23 2009, 06:06 PM
Lady Gaga is pretty much the image that pop music needs. Her songs are semi-beat but it really doesn't matter as, I think they are sort of supposed to. When an entire song is comprised of sexual innuendoes built on poker terms, you can't be taking your music too seriously. She sounds a whole fuck of a lot like Peaches when she raps in "Poker Face" though.
I do really like the Kid Cudi/Kanye/Common shit too.
Anyway, as long as she keeps banging out videos where she's playing the part of half-naked and drunk, I'll prob keep watching them.
Well, article mentions the Peaches thing too, so I guess I'm not alone on that one.
musicgurl
Jul 23 2009, 06:43 PM
I've heard "Just Dance" too many times to enjoy it now, "Poker Face" is still an okay track and I don't care for "LoveGame" at all. Actually I think "The Fame" is a better song than the ones she's released a singles.
BTW, I love it when the folks around start dishing about pop music it makes me laugh for some reason.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و ب
Jul 23 2009, 06:49 PM
she's so meta
Mitchell
Jul 23 2009, 06:53 PM
... I bet she thinks her song is about her.
arkin
Jul 23 2009, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (caley @ Jul 23 2009, 05:55 PM)
I respect the fact that she has no shame whatsoever. Like, when Christina Aguilera went all dirty, she was still mostly clothed, Gaga is just straight naked half the time, making out with chicks in her videos, wearing hotpants while walking down the street. That said, her music sucks a dog's dick.
this
Pat Sansone
Jul 23 2009, 07:47 PM
LoveGame is great guys. Admit it.
Every part of the song is comprised of some sort of catchy vocal hook. The concept of a 'disco stick' is obnoxious, lyrics suck, it's total inane bullshit, etc etc. Who cares
stclair
Jul 23 2009, 08:41 PM
i spit hot fire
caley
Jul 23 2009, 09:22 PM
The part where she sings "a love game, a love game" I always think she's singing "I love game, I love game" and it reminds me of Brick Tamland and I change the lyrics to "I love lamp, I love lamp". Improves the song a whole bunch.
Minutes Late
Jul 23 2009, 09:54 PM
Lady Gaga is interesting on paper—born in gay clubs with admitted Bowie and T. Rex influences. You expect her to sound like Jobriath, and yet her music is the weakest sub-Britney shit. It's not even good pop music. Her music just doesn't come within miles of the exuberance of her personality. It's music for my mom's water aerobics class. Literally. I mean, Colby O'Donis? WTF.
monotony
Jul 23 2009, 11:07 PM
Just Dance and Poker Face are virtually the same song.
Her whole "omg I'm a popstar but I'm also an artiste because I'm influenced by David Bowie and Andy Warhol rah rah rah" schtick is just annoying. Seriously, her songs are catchy but I don't find them particularly enjoyable unless I'm very intoxicated.
Also, she should think about putting some pants on. She's not particularly attractive.
Saskadelphia
Jul 23 2009, 11:09 PM
QUOTE (Mitchell @ Jul 23 2009, 05:53 PM)
... I bet she thinks her song is about her.
I laughed.
samsquanch
Jul 24 2009, 12:18 AM
Pokerface is a good song on the first few listens, then it gets old pretty quick. As does this thread.
Chronodiggity
Jul 24 2009, 05:10 AM
do you rockists need Gaga to go No Doubt on you guys?
Love playing her music on the dance floor. Works nearly every time.
Waves Within
Jul 24 2009, 08:17 AM
She's trash, and so is her music. I'm apalled at the fanfare she gets.
Merle
Jul 24 2009, 08:21 AM
Sascha Frere Jones is ok when he's writing about pop music, but typically he just meanders around his assignment until he hits the right wordcount.
Cinnamon P.
Jul 24 2009, 10:18 AM
QUOTE (Waylon @ Jul 24 2009, 09:21 AM)
Sascha Frere Jones is ok when he's writing about pop music, but typically he just meanders around his assignment until he hits the right wordcount.
Sort of exactly what that article felt like. I'm not sure he made any real statement at all besides "Lady GaGa might be smart because she probably isn't dumb."
caley
Jul 24 2009, 10:56 AM
Overheard on the radio during Firestorm 2009 coverage
Q: How do you wake up Lady Gaga? A: Poke her face
HRTX
Jul 24 2009, 11:03 AM
You realize there's a relatively popular song with some pretty big names that samples Poker Face called "Poke Her Face," right? I think it's a fairly established, um, pun by now.
Shackleton's Great Adventure
Jul 24 2009, 11:12 AM
Just another example of why 00s pop stars are joke city compared to 90s pop stars.
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