You would think that with it being next year there would already be promo out for it.

Who knows, I'm guesing it wil be a surprise type thing.

Well, Waters manager officially splurged that Waters is most def considering a Wall tour for 2010 and 2011.

edit:

Now it's official!

Hell yes.

The Wall tour will be performed at Soldier Field, summer 2010.

Well, I guess I'll be going to this.

But Gilmour really will be missed.

Just like Waters was on the PULSE tour. These guys have some serious issues. Waters got therapy and has changed. Gilmour apparently has not.

So, this is really gonna happen then? This would be amazing.



Unless Live Nation/Ticketmaster get their grubby little hands on this.

Well, we probably have differing opinions on all of that. I do think Gilmour is maybe the most "essential" ingredient in the Floyd gumbo, and the most immediately noticeable when he's not present. Waters does what he does well, and all credit to him for driving the band through the 70's, but with Gilmour taking a majority of the lead vocals and all of the guitar, Waters' absence is more easily tolerable in a live setting, I guess.

Also, I think that Waters was a prick for so long, I honestly can't blame Gilmour at this point for not giving a crap about reconciling....or in this case, about working with him again. They're both old curmudgeons at this point, and Gilmour is happy to focus on what he wants to do and not be bothered with his old nemesis. I'd probably be of the same mindset if I were him. Recreating what had been a tour fraught with tension and animosity is probably just about the bottom of Gilmour's bucket list.

why would you think they wouldnt??

I don't know. Waters was always the front man, and brought an energy to the show. Pus, Guy Pratt's bass playing is incredibly cold and clinical. Waters bass is a major part of their sound IMHO. I'd say they are about equal in terms of "missability".





You are probably right. Of all the tours, The Wall is probably one Gilmour would least likely perform in.

Rare Pink Floyd footage is found

Rare footage of Syd Barrett singing with Pink Floyd on the BBC One music show Top Of The Pops has been discovered after more than 40 years.

The damaged footage of the band playing See Emily Play has been restored and will now be screened for the first time since its initial 1967 broadcast.

Barrett, who died in 2006, left the group a year after it was recorded.

The British Film Institute will show the footage at its Missing Believed Wiped annual event on 9 January.

The Pink Floyd performance, on a one-inch, reel-to-reel tape, was discovered in a private collection.

It features two editions of TOTP from 6 and 27 July 1967, hosted by the late DJ Alan Freeman.

Dick Fiddy of the BFI told Mojo magazine: "We gave the tape to the archive boffins.

"It was in a dreadful condition, with the oxide falling off. The best possible picture quality was recovered."

TV recordings were often dumped or wiped in the 1960s and 1970s due to tape storage issues

On a related note, I recently watched a 1969 live collaboration between Pink Floyd & Frank Zappa. I guess there's a bootleg of their jamming together floating around, which is called Interstellar Zappadrive. Frank's guitar playing contrasts nicely with David Gilmour's slide guitar.

Weezer covered Pink Floyd at the Aragon last night. It was probably better than the original.

Of course they did. Any artist worth a damn covers them at least once.

Hmm, I would have really said vice versa...maybe I don't know "cold and clinical'...but I don't deny that Pratt's style doesn't really fit the Floyd sound either.

This thing won't be cheap, though.

It def won'tbe that cheap. However, Waters won't price it out of the park during a recession. He's not that disconnected.

Major announcement this month concerning possible 2010 Wall tour......



Bring it Sungha Jung. What a melody.

Montan-- how could you miss it? The kid actually got 1 chord wrong. Damn open tuning...

Claire Torrey talks Great Gig in the Sky:

Does she mention the lawsuit?

No, but I'm guessing that was part of the settlement. I think she deserved a writing credit since she improvised with them.

Dark Side of the Moon performed live in 1994 is on VH1 Classic right now. It kicks ass.

I'm surprised at the sentiment, considering it's from the much-maligned post-Waters period. I don't disagree, I'm just surprised.

Yeah, I actually dig The Division Bell and A Momentary Lapse of Reason.

I've warmed to those albums as well lately, much like some here have warmed to 80's McCartney. They are sort of this bloated pop sound combined with pure stoner rock. They are done very well actually. Not everything needs to have some deep meaning. I also think "High Hopes" and "Poles Apart" from TDB are better than anything any of the members did post TFC.

A lot of Kaos is cheesy, but I still say that "Me or Him" is fantastic.

BTW, if anyone is interested here is a bootleg of Division Bell songs form the 94 tour. Pretty good quality:

http://rapidshare.com/files/336077993/DB_Live_1994.zip.html

Edit: I still find "Marooned" to be unlistenable.


Also, Rick Wright. Guy was amazing. I keep going back to his song, "Summer of 68":



The arrangements on this...... the song just slowly picks up steam and seems to get more and more demented as it goes on, perhaps a trick learned form his old co-songwriter iBarrett.

This band had so much talent being input from each member. So did Zep. So did the Stones. I think that is why their legacy is what it is, and so many other bands don't quite make that level.

I can't embrace MLOR like I used to...in 1987 I loved the fact that there was a NEW Pink Floyd album at all...but I can't hack my way through "Yet Another Movie", "Sorrow" bores me, and "One Slip" is not a "Floyd" song beyond the 1:30 intro being basically a rehash of "Time".

I loved MLOR when I first heard it. Granted, all of my Pink Floyd exposure didn't happen until the early/mid 90's in college, but I just kind of loved EVERYTHING that I heard from them back then, and distinctly loved all that material on Delicate Sound of Thunder. But yeah, it hasn't aged well, beyond Learning to Fly and a few other parts.

On the other hand, I never disliked Division Bell, and loved it when I first heard it. Maybe it's bloated, and overly long, and not terribly deep, but I think it's my favorite Floyd product, solo or otherwise, that came out after the Wall.

Montana--I'm curious what your take is on Rick Wright's last solo work, Broken China. I just got it for Christmas--I'm happy to have finally have it, and hear it, but overall it seemed pretty weak to me. A few Floydian moments, and a fairly impressive backing band--I'm surprised he could get Sting's guitarist, Peter Gabriel's drummer, and Sinead O'Connor. The use of some of the exact sounds from Floyd records was a bit amusing.

I thought Broken China was weak as well. This is IMHO the best Rick solo song:




I think Rick really redeemed himself on The Division Bell. It's obvious to me that he used his best material for that rather than for Broken China in 1996.

^^Montana OTFM.

And Broken China, what a blown opportunity.

Interesting. Is this from Wet Dream?

I'm a bit hesitant to get too into the Floyds' solo material. Already having Amusied to Death, On an Island, and Broken China, I'm afraid there's really nowhere to go but down from there. And those were all significant steps down from true Floyd records to begin with.

Yes.





There is some good stuff out there, but I'm afraid they ended up surrounding themselves with Yes Men when they did their solo albums, which is never a good thing. David and Roger were each others bullshit detectors.


Folded Flags from When the Wind Blows soundtrack:





No Way Out of Here from Gilmour's first solo album:





Me and Him from Radio Kaos:



Murder, which Gilmour wrote about Lennon's death:

Listening to The Wall for the first time in many years. What a masterpiece.

I have weighed in on the solos before and I will be happy to do so again...

Gilmour self-titled...meh...contains some musical ideas that would become hits like Dogs Run Like Hell. But unremarkable otherwise.The best song is "No Way Out Of Here" which he didn't even write.

Gilmour About Face...Monty gave a few Youtubes up there from this one. This is a decent album. I like "You Know I'm Right", "Until We Sleep" and "All Lovers Are Deranged" in particular.

Gilmour Great production, lousy Hallmark card lyrics by wife Polly. "The Blue" is cool, "Stepping Stones" is an experiment that should have stayed in the trash heap. One is better off getting the Remember That Night DVD where all of the songs have so much more OOMPH, and there is so much more goodies on disc 2.

Gilmour Live In Gdansk I haven't heard a note of this album, but apparently it's the same set list as Remember That Night, but with a full orchestra behind it. Who cares?

Waters Pros & Cons of Hitchiking...Waters' most personal work, but just a bit too precious at times. Clapton proves once again he is best playing for other people with his work on here.

Waters Radio KAOS...hampered by 80s production and a not fully fleshed out music-to-storyline ratio. Might have been better as a 2lp, with some other stuff . MAYBE. At least it showed the world that Waters has a sense of humor and some hope.

Waters When The Wind Blows Soundtrack... he provided the score and two songs for this grim animated film about an old UK couple witnessing WWIII (sorta an English Grave of the Fireflies). It's only half of the album, but I consider this the best of his solo work by far. His side of the album coupled with side 1 of MLoR would have been a PERFECT Pink Floyd reunion record.

Waters Amused To Death Great production...some of the ideas are a bit murky (particularly the bits about "the monkey in the corner writing in his book"), but you would have to have no soul to not be moved by some of the pronouncements by Waters, not to mention the sound effects and the story of the WWII veteran who left his buddy behind. I hate the arrangement of "It's A Miracle" where the album really needed an uptempo tune.

Waters with Ron Geesin Music From The Body Geesin is a wacky experimnental composer/sound artist who wrote the good parts of Atom Heart Mother and was the inspiration for Water's "Several Species OF Small Furry Animals..." tape collage. Waters writes two pretty acoustic guitar numbers (one called "Breathe" which has the 1st line of the same DSotM trck, but that's the only similarity)and one gospel-tinged rocker "Give Birth To A Smile" that undoubtedly foreshadows "Brain Damage/Eclipse". The rest of it is tape manipulations and chamber music that would only appeal to weird music geeks like myself.

Mason (with Rick Fenn) Profiles. Mostly instrumenta smooth jazz music appropriate for car commercials. Gilmour sings on one nice track "Lie For A Lie" which one could just download elsewhere and avoid the expense.

Nick Mason's Fictitious Sports is really a Carla Bley jazz rock record. Only one song even approximates the Floyd sound, "Hot River", and the rest are rather jokey, atonal slabs of silliness. Robert Wyatt is the main vocalist on many of the songs, if that's of interest.

Wright Wet Dream... Monty posted "Waves" and that's probably the big highlight. Mostly smooth jazz from 1978. Wish he could have sang more on this.

Wright with Zack Harris ZEE--Identity. I have heard nothing from this album but every reference I have read tells me that it sucks.

Wright Broken China ...everything said in previous posts is true.

Ahhh.. that's the best post TFC song from anyone involved with the band other than High Hopes, Poles Apart, On the Turning Away and Learning to Fly. It's old school Waters croaking over a "Careful With that Axe" style arrangement. I;m so glad Waters went back to that sound for parts of ATD, which is why it's clearly his best solo work. I prefer it to TFC too.

Agrimorfee and Montana what are your thoughts on The Wall?

It's brilliant. Songwriting and melodies are tops. The last masterpeice by the band as well. It's one of those records where you have to pop it on every couple of months, Some of it is so dreary it's just not a background music album. I prefer it most when on a long road trip at night. Seeing the stars out the windshield (or moonroof, depending on your conifg)with "Is There Anybody Out There" playing is fantastic.

It also takes a lot of chances with big ideas. It hits you over the head any way it can. There's nothing really subtle about it, which is what made Zep, Stones, Who, Floyd so great. They could get away with "the hammer". No one really gets away with it anymore largely because they simply aren't good enough.

ABITW part II might have the finest chorus of the 70's.

This isn't even getting into the live show, which pretty much transformed how we see rock concerts.

I used to hate "Comfortably Numb" when I was in high school (in the 80s). But as I've gotten older I've realized that it's one of the best songs ever written.

Yeah. One of the things I have always liked about it was the absolute balance in the vocals of the song. The contrast between Water's cold cynicism and the dream-like, hopeful vocals of Gilmour is posisbly the best I have ever heard within the rock context. This is another thing that I think makes Pink Floyd great. They had three vocalists! So did the Beatles. This vocal variety absolutely allows the music to be less one dimensional, like a balanced atack by a NFL team with a good QB, a solid runner and that game changing receiver.

This isn't even getting into the imagery of the lyrics, which is beautiful.

BTW, part of that song is once again about Syd Barrett. Roger actually found him with that cigarette burning down to the fingers.......

i usually listen to The Wall straight through about once a month. last week i put it on while i was enjoying an entire bottle of wine. no, make that an entire jug of wine. got completely wasted with the album and was a mess by the time "Outside The Wall" played. i then made of the mistake of playing Animals afterwards because i didn't want to stop drinking. literally was in a mad state of mind by the time "Dogs" came on and was angrily singing along out loud, thinking in my head that this song would be the song i would listen to on headphones if i went homicidal and just went outside and caused pain.

probably be a good idea not to drink while Floyd plays.

sometimes i wonder how good Pink Floyd would have been in the 90s if the two camps had gotten back together and basically made an album from the material on Amused To Death and The Division Bell. would have been a great way to have the band go out.

In a lot of ways, the Wall is sort of the ultimate Floyd album--what they had been fumbling toward since Barrett's departure. The figure of Waters' father and WWII, the depiction of Barrett's slow removal from reality, the use of sound effects--some of which were practically used before (Waters' scream from Axe, for one), the evolution of 'concept' albums to a full-blown narrative, even nods to WYWH's depiction of the music business....all seemed to lead to this. In some ways, it's no wonder it practically spelled the end of the band. How do you follow what, in many ways, you'd been working toward for a decade or more?

I watched the Pink Floyd 2005 Live 8 performance last night on You Tube. Sent shivers down the spine. Can't believe it was almost 5 years ago already, seems like it was last week.

I still think "The Final Cut" is a very underrated epilogue to the Floyd odyssey. There's some damn good songs on that album that could've been on the Wall. And seriously, going out with the Royal Philharmonic behind you, what would be classier?

And if someone wants to argue that it was actually a solo album, then it's Roger's best.

Time has made me not listen to the album in its entriety in ages. But I rank this one consistently as my favorite album of all time for how it has served as a gateway to so many other aspects of pop music that I love or admire. Classic rock, experimentalism, orchestral rock, conceptual albums, political stances in rock, the Pink Floyd catalog and other psychedelia, rock songs as autobiographical or philosophical statements...When i first heard "ABitWpt2" at the age of 9, I thought it was so cool to have those kids sing such funny lyrics about school, and it led me to believe the whole album was an opera about School. Little did I know...

Granted, it;s not perfect. Lapses into weak navel gazing that detract from the storyline, some questionable arrangements like "Don't Leave Me Now" (does anyone really listen to that for pleasure?). But where it succeeds, it shines...those sound effects! (they destroyed real TV sets...they called a real international directory assistance operator...they got the army to lift off some helicopters!). The majesty of "Comfortably Numb", the creepiness of "Goodbye Blue Sky" drifting into "Empty Spaces" (please send your answer to Old Pink, care of the funny farm"!)the poppy sensibility of "ABitWpt2" and "Run Like Hell" while simultaneously serving as anthems for rebellion (which is what rock and roll is all about, which Waters would take with a wolfish grin if he read this sentence).

Didja know Waters and Gilmour were fighting like dogs over the final mix before Ezrin pulled a George Martin and spliced it together?...the cold, dry, soemwhat creepy Waters verse was chopped against Gilmour's chorus with his preferred orchestrated, lush, heavenly arrangement.

You can hear this yin and yang in every post-Final Cut work from these 2 guys...which again accentuates how much these two needed each other.

Yes. The same people who like "We Suck Young Blood" by Radiohead. Weird crowd......



Some new video popped up of Floyd playing in some church in 1971. Pretty awesome:

Auditions are underway for the Wall 2010 word tour.




Would you like to see Britannia rule again, my friend?