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Sickpup
Both of these bands had a song called "Slide Away" on their respective debuts. Both are fairly awesome, begging the obvious question:

which is better?

you decide.
Saskadelphia
I like Oasis's a lot. Kind of an underrated tune.
The Good Dr Bill
Both are spectacular (and play totally integral roles on their respective albums) but I think the Oasis one is probably a little better.
nosmokeinthelungs
Oasis

never heard the Verve's version. I don't care to. They suck
Nick
People should just be honest in this thread and talk about how fucking horrible The Verve were.
Sickpup
QUOTE(The Good Dr Bill @ Apr 3 2006, 06:28 PM) [snapback]55407[/snapback]

Both are spectacular (and play totally integral roles on their respective albums) but I think the Oasis one is probably a little better.


agreed.

but yeah, i think verve is going to deservedly get clobbered on this one.

i would like to hear someone come to the verve's defense on this one...

QUOTE(Nick @ Apr 3 2006, 06:30 PM) [snapback]55412[/snapback]

People should just be honest in this thread and talk about how fucking horrible The Verve were.


i think certain eras of theirs are definitely horrible. that said, they were a bit too varied to smear across the board. personally, i always thought their shoegaze era was awfully overrated, no matter how much i like "slide away." they only got good with urban hymns...
Ben
The Michael Hutchence song with Bono on backing vocals is the best.
Mitchell
Verve's "Slide Away" is fantastic but Oasis's "Slide Away" has always been one of my favourite Oasis songs.

Anyone who hasn't heard both really should.
The Good Dr Bill
QUOTE(LBJ @ Apr 3 2006, 06:33 PM) [snapback]55413[/snapback]

i think certain eras of theirs are definitely horrible. that said, they were a bit too varied to smear across the board. personally, i always thought their shoegaze era was awfully overrated, no matter how much i like "slide away." they only got good with urban hymns...


Unsurprisingly, this is pretty much the exact opposite of the truth.
Sickpup
QUOTE(The Good Dr Bill @ Apr 3 2006, 06:36 PM) [snapback]55418[/snapback]

Unsurprisingly, this is pretty much the exact opposite of the truth.


unsurprisingly, you are a dunce.

edit: i also might add an oddly anti-populist stance, especially for you.
Mitchell
Your both wrong. A Storm In Heaven is the best Verve album.
Sickpup
QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 3 2006, 06:39 PM) [snapback]55424[/snapback]

A Storm In Heaven is the best Verve album.


I think that's technically what Bill is saying. I don't consider A Northern Soul shoegaze, nor, i suspect, would anyone else.
Mitchell
I meant A Northern Soul, it's late here and I wasn't thinking what I was typing.

just to be clear
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Sickpup
QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 3 2006, 06:44 PM) [snapback]55428[/snapback]

I meant A Northern Soul, it's late here and I wasn't thinking what I was typing.

just to be clear


i suspect that no one else would actually consider that a good album.
Mitchell
Which one Storm in Heaven or A Northern Soul?
The Good Dr Bill
A Northern Soul is good but incosistent, songs like "Drive You Home," "This is Music" and their career high-point "On Your Own" are obviously fantastic but the album flows poorly and ends limply, with a couple boring and directionless songs too many to be considered a career highlight.

the Urban Hymns singles are pretty unfuckwithable (except for "The Drugs Don't Work," anyway) and "Lucky Man" is probably their most underappreciated hit, but there's just too much of it--it's about as bloated a third album as Be Here Now, but because the singles are a little bit better I think people got distracted from it.

A Storm in Heaven is the only one of the three that both flows like a dream (often times quite literally) and is of consistent song quailty throughout--there might not be too many pop songs in the mold of "History" or "Bittersweet Symphony" (though "Slide Away" and "Blue" are both career highlights on this front too), as the real meat of the album is in the ethereal song waves like "Make it Til Monday" and "A Beautiful Mind". It's more shoegaze in mood and philosophy than sound, which I think is pretty cool.
Nick
I saw The Verve at the Aragon. The show wasn't very good, but the fact that they butchered "Weeping Willow" left a disgusting taste in my mouth that always comes back when someone mentions them.
BobtheSquid
QUOTE(LBJ @ Apr 3 2006, 04:48 PM) [snapback]55432[/snapback]

i suspect that no one else would actually consider that a good album.


A Northern Soul is by far the Verve's best. Urban Hymns has its moments, but, compared to past efforts, it's like a Muzak version of the Verve.
avec
QUOTE(Nick @ Apr 3 2006, 05:30 PM) [snapback]55412[/snapback]

People should just be honest in this thread and talk about how fucking horrible The Verve were.


heh, I voted for Verve's version. Never cared for Oasis actually. A Storm In Heaven was the only album by the verve I appreciated. It's their trippiest and most mellow one, and also the easiest to play all the way through. That song on it's own does not stand as a single well at all, but in the context of the album it works great.
Alky 2009
Oasis', just barely. But that may be because I've listened to it more recently. But this thread makes me want to pull out some Verve and double-check.
hinsey21
nice thread

both 2 of the best songs from without a doubt these bands best albums

and whats with all this hate on the verve, you guys are fucking crazy

storm in heaven-northern soul-urban hymns is probley one of the best if not the best triple threat of the 90s

oh yeah and for the record even though i am hardcore oasis i can't choose the songs are just to perfect, it's a draw in my eyes
Music Saves
Oasis' version is an amazing love song, with the second best Noel Gallagher guitar solo ever (first=Live Forever obviously), and literally some of the most emotional singing Liam's ever recorded. There's a reason they saved this song from the aborted first album sessions, it could never possibly get any better. Verve's song is really good too, but when I think about the significance each song has had on my life, Slide Away by Oasis means a lot more.
st. park
slide away is probably the best song oasis has ever recorded, imo.

the vote shows a landslide, and is pretty accurate of my feeling of the two songs.
More Drama
QUOTE(Ben @ Apr 3 2006, 05:34 PM) [snapback]55416[/snapback]

The Michael Hutchence song with Bono on backing vocals is the best.


I probably like this one better than the Verve's. And I like the Oasis tune but it's not one of my favorites.

The Verve just took themselves way too seriously. But A Storm in Heaven is one of the best album titles evar.
modjam515
I gotta go with Oasis on this one. Every time I listen to Noel's solo version of "Slide Away" that he performed at the '98 Chicago show, I regret never making it to the show.

Seeing the full band perform the song in '01 when they were opening for The Black Crowes was still pretty amazing. It has to be one of Liam's best vocal performances in the Oasis catalog.
biggie mcsmalls
I always thought The Verve was a shitty album band, to be honest. Great singles, though.

The closest that they ever got to a great full length to me was the Verve EP, and that, obviously, doesn't really count as a full length.
Mitchell
The Verve back together and recording new material


Lead singer Richard Ashcroft and all but one of his former bandmates have announced plans to tour this fall

Rosie Swash
Tuesday June 26, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

After the best part of a decade apart, the Verve have reformed and have begun to record new material, according to a posting on the band's official website.

Despite his insistence on several previous occasions that such a thing would never happen, lead singer Richard Ashcroft has been in the studio with fellow bandmates Nick McCabe, Simon Jones and Pete Salisbury and a six-date tour has been announced for later this year. A new album is expected to follow shortly afterwards. Former Verve guitarist and keyboardist Simon Tong is not included in the lineup; he is currently part of Damon Albarn's supergroup, The Good, the Bad and the Queen.
Ashcroft saw his debut solo album Alone With Everybody receive critical acclaim when it was released in 2000, but he has had little success as a solo artist since. News of the reunion comes a decade after Urban Hymns, the band's breakthrough album, was originally released.

UK tour dates:

November 2 and 3: Glasgow Academy
November 5 and 6: Blackpool Empress Ballroom
November 8 and 9: London Roundhouse
twicks
QUOTE(MitchellStirling @ Jun 26 2007, 10:47 AM) [snapback]401623[/snapback]
The Verve back together and recording new material


Lead singer Richard Ashcroft and all but one of his former bandmates have announced plans to tour this fall

Rosie Swash
Tuesday June 26, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

After the best part of a decade apart, the Verve have reformed and have begun to record new material, according to a posting on the band's official website.

Despite his insistence on several previous occasions that such a thing would never happen, lead singer Richard Ashcroft has been in the studio with fellow bandmates Nick McCabe, Simon Jones and Pete Salisbury and a six-date tour has been announced for later this year. A new album is expected to follow shortly afterwards. Former Verve guitarist and keyboardist Simon Tong is not included in the lineup; he is currently part of Damon Albarn's supergroup, The Good, the Bad and the Queen.
Ashcroft saw his debut solo album Alone With Everybody receive critical acclaim when it was released in 2000, but he has had little success as a solo artist since. News of the reunion comes a decade after Urban Hymns, the band's breakthrough album, was originally released.

UK tour dates:

November 2 and 3: Glasgow Academy
November 5 and 6: Blackpool Empress Ballroom
November 8 and 9: London Roundhouse



Holy moly.
Mitchell
Also lol @ "saw his debut solo album Alone With Everybody receive critical acclaim"
twicks
QUOTE(MitchellStirling @ Jun 26 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]401672[/snapback]
Also lol @ "saw his debut solo album Alone With Everybody receive critical acclaim"


It's an underrated album.

I'm gonna go put on "A Song For The Lovers" right now.
C.I.
This could either be good, or very very bad.
The Good Dr Bill
megalol at 23-2

it's kind of sad because The Verve song is so great, but it still doesn't really deserve to stand a chance
Mitchell


Man Called Sun was dropped, The O2 is a nice venue if you want to see the Foo Fighters or something like that (not meant in a snobbish way) but I wished I'd gone to see them at the Roundhouse. The sound was slightly bass heavy but not as bad as I thought it was going to be, the view was pretty good from the seats (lol I suck) and the venue didn't rip you off over food as they could quite easily do.

McCabe was brilliant throughout, the most annoying thing was the majority of the crowd who were seemingly there for the four UH singles and 'Come On' more fool them because the stuff from A Northern Soul was the best that was played.


Billy Idol? Eminem? Weller?
torrance
QUOTE(MitchellStirling @ Dec 15 2007, 12:33 PM) [snapback]530785[/snapback]

Billy Idol? Eminem? Weller?

good lord blink.gif i did think it was weller
Sickpup
shocked at how much of a landslide this was. much closer than the score would suggest...
Sickpup
QUOTE (LBJ @ Apr 3 2006, 05:33 PM) *
but yeah, i think verve is going to deservedly get clobbered on this one.


clearly, i've had a change of heart.
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