And I don't just mean in gross numbers. I mean proportionally.

When I walk around in large cities (NY, Chicago, etc.) I see way more beautiful women on average than I do in smaller cities and towns. I went to the Whitney Biennial when I was in New York and literally every other women was beautiful. I had never in my life been surrounded by so many attractive women. It was staggering.

In comparison, if you look at my high school class, which had probably roughly the same amount of women as the museum did that hour, you'd only find that maybe, on a good day, five to ten percent were especially attractive.

What's up with that? Is it just that my tastes run a certain way, that cities attract and reward that kind of woman? More people go outside and socialize in cities while all the beautiful women are behind closed doors in other areas? Modes of dress and appearance that appeal to me are more rigorously kept in urban society? What is going on?

a more cultured environment equals more exposure to better styles and grooming techniques.

whereas, girls in the wutever town, maybe an eighth of them really know how to make themselves look more attractive. and there is less pressure to care. it's peer- pressure in a non- teenage form.

or maybe you're just really 'randy' today.

Competition and pressure to look that way I think would have a lot to do with it. I agree with your observation. Go to Paris or Rome and you'll see the same, raised a notch or two. (Or perhaps that's my bias towards European women getting in the way). Hell, if you end up in Prague or Budapest, you'll never want to leave.

Skanks buy make-up?

there are probably hotties in every small town, but it's a little harder to chase them down. the more rural the area, the less cultural gathering points there are. I guess you'd have to hang out at their church or go to the mall to find them or something. But comparing a small town to a NYC art fair, theres no point of comparison. All these richies make their living at looking swell, the city demands it of them. The more people there are and the more culturally inclined, the more competition there is for the women to look hot.

at tha dolla store

I wouldn't say I'm any more randy today than usual. This was actually inspired by a tour of my high school class via Facebook.

There's more money and wealth in cities.

People who are better looking make more money and have more wealth.

Men who are wealthier and make more money can get better looking women.

They have kids in the cities who inherit genes for better looks.

Don't forget migration. Hotties from rural and suburban locales seek out big cities for careers and better dating opportunities.

All the pretty girls go to the city. Not just an alright song by the band Spoon, Ben. But a very very very true statement.

As a guy who used to live in a town of 2500, this is absolutely spot-on.

I think it's somewhat true of any area with higher wealth. Suburban towns with higher than average wealth will have better looking women.

Come to NW Indiana and you can see the oposite of this phenom where there is a lack of wealth in our cities.




Part of it is genetic too. It's not all cultural.

i would just like to point out that many of my east coast friends who have visited me in chicago have been disappointed with the overall attractiveness of this city's women. then again, most of them are used to new york.

i agree with all of the points made about awareness, pressure, wealth, etc etc etc.

let's not forget we're still in the midwest.

notably, stacy & clinton (gods) of what not to wear claim chicago is one of the best dressed cities and i agree.

AvaAck has found the nail and beat it about the head, chest, and shoulders.

So there are 40 or 50 women in my high school class who could appear much more appealing if they had the means and motivation?

Wisconsin is great if you like fat chicks.

i was actually disappointed with the women on my first trip to NY - literally ALL of the women there are well groomed and take care of themselves, so from a distance all of them are top notch. upon further inspection and closer examination, it's just a ruse. they've prettied themselves up, but a good lot of them are still not beauties.

I have been about everywhere, but the women in Vegas are mind-blowing from what I saw. I stayed at the Hard Rock, and damn, hard rock is right!

Let's not forget that with loftier appearance standards and more grooming comes higher maintenance...not always a good thing.

Probably.

I also suppose that you might have a little more genetic variation in big cities, and perhaps that could lead to more overall attractiveness? I dunno.

I don't find Chicago to be chock full of particularly attractive women, but if you hang out in the nicer neighborhoods (say, Lincoln Park or Wicker Park), the girls are overall much more attractive than in working class neighborhoods like, say, Back of The Yards or Brighton Park. I really do think it's mostly a function of income and the influence of local beauty standards.

And, as for Wisconsin...have you ever been to Madison in the spring? Yowzah. Who says Wisconsin women aren't hot?

I have. My gf is from there actually. Madison is by far the high point of the state. But many ladies in the Midwest, esp. IA and WI and IN, are really really big. I like bigger women, like say a size 10, but these 6x ers scare me.

don't forget...there's alot more women in nyc per capita...so...chances are, you're going to see more beautiful women b/c of the amount you're exposed to...

i've seen both the most stunning women here in nyc and the plain janes who try to look stunning...so i agree with without opinions observation...you think they're hot, and then you take a closer look and you're like...meh...

but there are alot of beautiful women here...it's a melting pot.

So what's the answer? That I failed for years to find the beautiful women hidden all around me?

AskMen.com says Rio has the most beautiful women, followed by Milan, Caracas, Copenhagen and Prague.

The answer is that you grew up in Iowa. That pretty much sums everything up.

I agree with Prague. Not much into Italian women, so I'll skip on Milan. And, lemme tell ya, Budapest is up there, too. Not only that, but nobody's "out of your league" in that city.

One word: cash.

It's not necessarily always the city though - also check the wealthy suburbs. I live in north Hoffman Estates adjacent to the wealthy suburb South Barrington...odds are if you see a woman getting out of a Lincoln Navigator around here she's thin and looks great.






I've been to Brazil and it was mindblowing. The thing that was disturbing to see though was instances of men harassing women there. Don't see that very often in the States.

What John Kerry didn't resonate with you? Wait to you see this Vilsack guy we've got ready. He's a real winner.

Disagree. High maintenance girls will forever trounce the "simple girl."



Definately agree on Budapest. Definately. And surprisingly enough, Bratislava. No joke.

Name the famous Iowan on the right to win a prize.

MA!

*sigh*

it is fact that madison, wi has the highest hot girl:ugly girl ratio in the nation.

Come on now Nick, you act like those are the only two types that exist. A girl doesn't have to be "simple" if they're not "high maintenance." Blech, the fucking "high maintenance" ones are enough to make me gag.

I see your point. But I still agree with myself in this instance.

prostitutes don't count, TKB.

hell yes.
there are so many tourists there, though, it's hard to tell.

meh. i loathe thee high maintenance girls (unfortunately, there are tons in madison). there is a good compromise b/w taking pride in how you look and only finding pride in your appearance. not only are the former often more appealing (tend to have more original style, imho) but they also tend to be less catty/insecure.

i love Bratislava, but i'm not sure i agree w/you on this... (photographic evidence?)

When was the last time you were there? It's one of the most exciting cities in Eastern Europe. There is tons of energy, youth, outgoing people... And yes, the girls there were gorgeous.

april. i know several attractive slovakians, but none of them are from bratislava. i love the city; it is absolutely gorgeous, cheap, and not nearly as toursity as the other up-and-coming e.european cities (prg, budapest, etc). i just never thought of it as a hot-chick capital. i could be mistaken; i'd have to take another look..

Ladies/gays, Is the same thing true for dudes?

hmm. not really in my experience. i look forward to moving to a larger city simply b/c population density increases the odds. i don't think i've really found "urban men" to be more attractive, though. on the flip side, i guess city folk in general (well, most US cities at least, possibly excluding some in the south) tend to be more fashionable, which helps. (i've had quite a few male friends who live in the midwest complain about being labeled gay simply b/c they dress nicely on a regular basis.)

To throw my two cents in, I'd have to say Danish women are pretty damn fine. As well as those in Vienna.

Poofs.

They sure do! They are way good at math, I tried to pay one in singles so it looked like more money, and she knew in seconds!

because in hick towns, its mostly uncultured whites who do incest, wher as in the city, you get all the races mixing their juices together sexilly and bring nice mixtured colors babes, me and ben are the same, i like a nice cultured mixed up latina or light skinned sista even asian.

If you are up this early AND like Asians, you are totally not black.

Wow. You saw a part of Bratislava I didn't see, then. I found Bratislava good for a quick day trip, but nothing more. Bratislava was boring as hell. I mean, it was a pleasant enough city, but in my five years of living in that part of the world, I cannot recall a single instance in which somebody said, "Ah, man, I gotta get away to Bratislava for the weekend." I mean, kudos to you for finding fun in that city, because you're the only one I know who has such superlatives for it.

I've been to Copenhagen, you know that stereotype of Scandanavian women of having blonde hair, blue eyes, and big breasts. There is a reason that stereotype exists.

i went to college at both university of iowa and u of illinois at champaign and lemme tell ya, there are far, far more hot chicks in the state of illinois (at least both hot AND reasonably intelligent, i guess)

why is this? successful people tend to flock to urban areas. and many hot women follow the money

i would consider 5% of the females in my high school graduating class to be hot. thus, jerry seinfeld was pretty much spot on when he said that 4-6% of the population is datable

elaine: "so how is it that all these people are getting together?"
jerry: "alcohol"

Danes aren't Scandanavian though, they're majority Germanic with some Scandanavian genes thrown in. On the flip side, there's lots of Blonde/Blue/Big Titted German chicks, too, so they've got that going for'em.

Oh, and let me agree that New York has more good looking women than Chicago, but that there's more good looking women living in the city of Chicago than in the suburbs.