Jigga
Mar 11 2010, 05:56 AM
everybody knows i was hands down the 1st person 2 speak on The Wire round here. Way b4 hip white people and intellectuals started being hood voyeurs and annoying over analytical motherfuckers, I watched that ish. Like all the important stuff, i am ususally the 1st to recognise it.
Anyway, the maker of that classic series, the greatest ever i suspect, has this new ish about New Orleans musicians in the aftermath of Katrina. we will not knwo how great it is until the 1st 2 seasons are over, so even though critics are always quick 2 give us their sweeping opinion of something just based on 2 seconds of footage, i encourage u 2 ignore them cause they are always normally wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jH_KkUyZsw...feature=related
Mitchell
Mar 11 2010, 07:42 AM
The Wire featured in SOMBies favourite TV shows poll in 2005.
Uncle Remus
Mar 11 2010, 01:26 PM
very excited about this - can't wait to interview Simon.
Duff.
Mar 11 2010, 03:43 PM
This a movie, a show, a documentary, etc.?
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
Mar 11 2010, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (Duff. @ Mar 11 2010, 02:43 PM)

This a movie, a show, a documentary, etc.?
It mostly seems an excuse for Jigga to expand to this side of the board.
Uncle Remus
Mar 11 2010, 03:56 PM
HBO series
Duff.
Mar 12 2010, 10:48 AM
Guess I'll have to wait for DVD's.
MidnightChild2
Mar 13 2010, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (Wayne Schlagel @ Mar 11 2010, 01:26 PM)

very excited about this - can't wait to interview Simon.
Pardon me for being the noob but under what circumstances would you be interviewing david simon ?
plus i'm confident he can pull of something as good as the wire
let's just hope it's not just a retread
and also the " music " angle and some of the casting decisions have me a little worried though
velocity
Mar 13 2010, 04:11 PM
Yeah, pretty sure I'm just going to pretend that Lester Freamon and the Bunk retired to Nawlins.
MidnightChild2
Mar 13 2010, 04:15 PM
This description from wikipedia is what has me most worried
Film actor Steve Zahn joined the project in February 2009. Treme is his first series commitment in television. Zahn will play a dancer, DJ and band member with anger management issues. The role will showcase the actor's singing and guitar playing talents
it could just be a case of a wikipedia editor reducing a nuanced character to a overly melodramatic role description...but still the idea of a dancer dj with anger management issues sounds like something out of baywatch or melrose place
Duff.
Mar 14 2010, 02:29 AM
McNulty was an arrogant cop with a drinking problem. I think everything will be fine.
amnesious
Mar 14 2010, 04:05 AM
QUOTE (Duff. @ Mar 14 2010, 03:29 AM)

McNulty was an arrogant cop with a drinking problem. I think everything will be fine.
Exactly.
Also
this
theremin
Mar 14 2010, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (MidnightChild2 @ Mar 13 2010, 03:38 PM)

Pardon me for being the noob but under what circumstances would you be interviewing david simon ?
Motel room rendezvous.
cerebralheadtrip
Mar 14 2010, 09:42 PM
QUOTE (Jigga @ Mar 11 2010, 04:56 AM)

Way b4 hip white people and intellectuals started being hood voyeurs and annoying over analytical motherfuckers
You do realize the show was written and directed by an analytical white guy, right?
Jigga
Mar 16 2010, 02:24 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive...-returns/37571/not sure if this was posted, another trailer. would be cool if somewhere in the series No Limit and Cash Money get a mention, granted thats at the tail end of New Orleans musical history but still, Baby would be an intersting cameo.
Jigga
Mar 16 2010, 02:30 PM
add this to HBO's Boardwalk Empire
amnesious
Apr 11 2010, 07:06 PM
Anyone watch this shit last night? I thought it was airing after The Pacific
MattW
Apr 11 2010, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (Jigga @ Mar 11 2010, 05:56 AM)

everybody knows i was hands down the 1st person 2 speak on The Wire round here. Way b4 hip white people and intellectuals started being hood voyeurs and annoying over analytical motherfuckers, I watched that ish. Like all the important stuff, i am ususally the 1st to recognise it.
I don't mean to take a jigga post seriously, but due to the fact that this followed the trend of using British actors to play American roles (McNulty, Stringer Bell), used a sorry Tom Waits cover as the theme song, and dropped a not very subtle reference of chess being the extended metaphor established early on among other aspects, wasn't the pandering to the 'hip white people and intellectuals, analytical motherfuckers' precisely the point?
By-Tor
Apr 11 2010, 08:36 PM
I think it's taping on the DVR right now.
Ogawa
Apr 12 2010, 06:30 PM
Just finished watching the premiere. It was phenomenal. Just a perfect first episode. Rich with detail and character and sensual pleasures. I think I'm in love.
Campaigner
Apr 12 2010, 06:50 PM
downloaded it last night, can't wait to watch it.
velocity
Apr 13 2010, 03:21 AM
Zahn needs to turn it down a notch--he came on like Ziggy Sobotka there for awhile. Overeager, I dunno. Everyone else struck just the right note.
Merle
Apr 16 2010, 09:00 AM
I never thought I'd get to see John Goodman, Khadi Alexander and Elvis Costello in the same television show.
pigfuck
Apr 16 2010, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (Ogawa @ Apr 12 2010, 04:30 PM)

Just finished watching the premiere. It was phenomenal. Just a perfect first episode. Rich with detail and character and sensual pleasures. I think I'm in love.
I feel this same way. Brilliant pilot.
Rob Gordon
Apr 16 2010, 01:55 PM
The only time since I dropped HBO in February that I wish i had it. Heard a review on NPR and your guys posts have me envious.
pigfuck
Apr 16 2010, 07:29 PM
no magnets
Apr 16 2010, 07:53 PM
i think i'm the only person who wasn't really into this. not that i found it bad, just that i cannot see this holding my attention for more than a season.
MattW
Apr 17 2010, 08:28 AM
I didn't love it, but I liked it. It was a really long episode of character introductions without a lot of interaction between them. Of course I'm finishing the 1st season of The Wire now and while I've finally gotten sucked into the plot and I love the use of natural light, I find Simon's massively oversized cast a bit distracting, messy, and self-indulgent. Also, most of the acting is terrible. It's distracting trying to get behind McNulty when you keep being reminded he's just some British actor who isn't very good at hiding his accent.
These complaints apply to Treme as well, except the first few episodes of The Wire had some really cheesy, indulgent tough talking theater monologues that Treme so far has wisely decided to minimize. I also like Treme's use of music and I'll probably watch for time being. The opening and closing sequences were beautiful.
dice
Apr 18 2010, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (MattW @ Apr 17 2010, 08:28 AM)

It's distracting trying to get behind McNulty when you keep being reminded he's just some British actor who isn't very good at hiding his accent.
i had no idea the guy was british until i was most of the way through the series and saw an interview with him on one of the dvd extras
didn't think the cast was too big either
MattW
Apr 18 2010, 10:40 PM
When I watched the pilot his accent slipped so frequently I couldn't tell if he had Russell Crowe syndrome or if he was doing a regional Baltimore/Irish cop diction that I didn't know about. An IMDB search cleared that up. Don't get me wrong, I consider myself hooked on The Wire at this point. But I think it's just a pretty good show.
EDIT: Also, the dude who plays Stringer Bell. That guy is excellent with hiding his accent.
Ogawa
Apr 19 2010, 08:09 PM
"There's pride on Bourbon Street."
Damn good second episode too. I'm really digging all these characters. It doesn't matter which story is happening, I'm enjoying watching it. Love that first scene in the radio studio. Really organic, nothing forced. Lots of color, lots of character. This show is good good good. A portrait of New Orleans like The Wire was a portrait of Baltimore. It's good seeing the Bunk again. And Zahn is not as ott in this episode, though he's still Zahn. He needs to grow out his Rescue Dawn beard. Dude was like a puppy dog in that shit.
Swan
Apr 19 2010, 10:19 PM
QUOTE (Ogawa @ Apr 19 2010, 09:09 PM)

"There's pride on Bourbon Street."
Damn good second episode too. I'm really digging all these characters. It doesn't matter which story is happening, I'm enjoying watching it. Love that first scene in the radio studio. Really organic, nothing forced. Lots of color, lots of character. This show is good good good. A portrait of New Orleans like The Wire was a portrait of Baltimore. It's good seeing the Bunk again. And Zahn is not as ott in this episode, though he's still Zahn. He needs to grow out his Rescue Dawn beard. Dude was like a puppy dog in that shit.
I loved this second episode. This show is hard for me since I grew up outside of Baltimore, and spent many a summer nights there. NO on the other hand, never been there, but still a great show.
MattW
Apr 20 2010, 12:30 PM
QUOTE (Ogawa @ Apr 19 2010, 08:09 PM)

A portrait of New Orleans like The Wire was a portrait of Baltimore.
Odd. I thought that The Wire attempts not to be distinctly local. Instead it seems analogous to the American city project neighborhoods as Jody Hill's goal of attempting to paint a uniform picture of American suburbs in 'Eastbound and Down' and 'Observe and Report'. But 'Treme' really does do a great job of putting you in town.
Merle
Apr 20 2010, 12:50 PM
I think I watched Lester Freamon
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ice a punk
MattW
Apr 20 2010, 03:37 PM
That 2nd episode was pretty damn excellent. I watched from my laptop with headphones on. It's actually better that way. I'm hooked.
dice
Apr 20 2010, 04:24 PM
QUOTE (MattW @ Apr 20 2010, 03:37 PM)

That 2nd episode was pretty damn excellent. I watched from my laptop with headphones on. It's actually better that way. I'm hooked.
you know the woman who plays janette is british, right?
MattW
Apr 20 2010, 05:09 PM
Then she's better than McNulty.
Merle
Apr 20 2010, 05:22 PM
I'll admit it's a little strange to hear Catherine Duke with a new accent.
birdistheword
Apr 22 2010, 02:59 PM
Missed the first, but wound up watching the second anyway...good stuff, most of it was excellent...but some flashes of self-righteous didacticism were off-putting as hell. It's nothing new - it was there in The Wire - but this time around it wasn't so palatable. To be fair, there's a lot to be genuinely pissed off about when it comes to NOLA, but it works better when he tempers that anger with wry humor or just plain sadness, not when it comes pouring out of a cranky mouthpiece.
pigfuck
Apr 26 2010, 10:12 AM
Last night's ep was the first that really kicks in the gut. Ending was classic, I'm-fed-up-with-this-goddamned-world David Simon.
velocity
Apr 26 2010, 02:23 PM
The show is sure putting NOPD in a worse light than usual, which I wouldn't have thought possible.
Melted Cheese
Apr 27 2010, 04:07 PM
I was watching the third episode, and my roommate stopped in the room to watch a bit of it. He was definitely intrigued and, after a few minutes, asked "What's it about?"
I responded generically, annoyed, with "Post Katrina New Orleans."
He was like, "Yeah, I got that, but what's it about? Like what's the point?"
Is there an answer to that?
I worry that the fact that there doesn't seem to be a clear-cut response to that question might turn some casual observers like my roommate off.
It would be a damn shame if that were the case.
pigfuck
Apr 27 2010, 08:51 PM
show actively deflects casual observers. check the last scene of last week. be lukewarm and it'll spit ye out.
same with The Wire. and probably any Milch show as well.
Melted Cheese
May 5 2010, 11:25 AM
Loved last week's episode.
Pretty much in love with every single character. Loved Goodman's youtube rant, Zahn's rap, Batiste's dentist appointment, dutch dude's moment in the spot light... just chock full of great characters/scenes.
I'm obsessed.
Ogawa
May 5 2010, 12:19 PM
Ditto. Hard to really talk about this show too much cause so much of it is so good and it'd just devolve into lists of details and character beats.
"I gotta crack in my wall upstairs needing tending to."
"Well, I could maybe take a look at that for you later."
Smooth.
Sid Hartha
May 5 2010, 12:30 PM
Antoine's wife: You come home smelling like cigarettes and pussy.
Antione: That ain't pussy
Well what is it then if it ain't pussy
Barbecue.
Barbecue?
Kermit's barbecue.
Kermit's barbecue tastes right, but not that right.
Antione: I dunno, some people swear by it.
velocity
May 10 2010, 03:12 PM
^ That ep was the last I've seen, and have resorted to reading
Alan Sepinwall's excellent blog on the subject. Alan also turned me on to
Treme explained, just as interesting a blog in its own right.
pigfuck
May 11 2010, 01:34 AM
This last ep was the most joyous and forlorn shit. Don't really understand where the show is heading, plot-wise, but I don't really care when the details are this perfect. Simon could spend an episode just running single camera around a night club and I'd be more than happy.
Campaigner
May 11 2010, 02:18 AM
Is anyone else doing what I'm doing and saving the shows and not watching them until the whole season's done?
I don't think I can watch this week-to-week and have to wait seven days for the next episode. I sure as hell couldn't do it with The Wire
Ogawa
May 11 2010, 06:52 AM
I was thinking that at the end of tonight's episode, that I wish I could just put the next one on right away like I was able to do with all of The Wire. If I had any patience at all, I might save the shows til they're all out, but I'm loving it too much.
Lots of good stuff this last episode. The parade, the Japanese jazz fan, the chefs at the restaurant, pissed-off Freamon, Zahn getting a little too overzealous at the bar. Not concerned about any overarching plot, or if the show is really going anywhere at all. I'm just enjoying watching these characters exist and get by. The violinist needs to ditch her boyfriend, by the way. Dude's a loser. Only complaint about the episode is with Zahn's vocals on "Shame, Shame, Shame." Seemed pretty weak among all those wonderful instruments.
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