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tweed
Think there's any chance?

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sin city
QUOTE(tweed @ Apr 6 2006, 10:27 AM) [snapback]57773[/snapback]
Think there's any chance?

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no way. THE MAN will never let him break DiMaggios record.
tjenz
doesn't count
he nees to do it in a single season for it to count

plus he'll never do it
Howard Rock
QUOTE(The Priest @ Apr 6 2006, 12:01 PM) [snapback]57815[/snapback]

doesn't count
he nees to do it in a single season for it to count


Sort of...

Link.

On Baseball | Will Rollins' hit parade keep rolling?
By Jim Salisbury
Inquirer Columnist

Jimmy Rollins is ready. He knows the crush is coming. He knows there probably won't be a day this spring when someone - a teammate, an opposing player, a reporter, a fan - doesn't bring up his currently hibernating 36-game hitting streak.

"It's already started," the Phillies all-star shortstop said the other day.

Rollins was in Las Vegas recently for teammate Cory Lidle's charity poker tournament. While riding in a limousine, he heard a voice from the front seat.

"You know they'll be coming after you."

"Huh?" Rollins said.

"The hitting streak. You know the pitchers will be coming after you," the limousine driver said.

Rollins laughed and told the driver he'd be ready.

"I was a little shocked," Rollins said in telling the story. "They don't even have major-league baseball in Vegas. I guess some people have noticed, and that's cool."

Already sitting on the ninth-longest hitting streak in big-league history, Rollins would need to open the season by hitting in 21 straight games to break what many think is an unbreakable mark, Joe DiMaggio's 56-gamer.

Ask many players in Rollins' position whether they could pull it off and they'd likely play the humility card. Oh, I haven't even thought about it. If it happens, it happens.

Rollins is different. Can he break it?

"Definitely," he said. "It's just a matter of getting it done.

"Will I? The whole world will have to wait and see. Who knows, it might end on April 3. If it does, it was a heck of a ride."

Many have wondered how history would view Rollins' streak if it continues into the new season. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Major League Baseball's official record keeper, there are two kinds of records when it comes to streaks - those accomplished in a single season and those accomplished in more than one season, or a lifetime.

DiMaggio's 56-game streak is the longest in a single season and a lifetime. Therefore, he owns both records. DiMaggio's single-season record is safe (barring any player taking a run at it this season). Rollins is shooting for DiMaggio's lifetime mark, as well as Wee Willie Keeler's National League lifetime mark of 45 straight games, set in 1896-97. Keeler and Pete Rose share the NL single-season mark at 44 games.

"Should Jimmy hit in his first 21 games, he would not erase Joe DiMaggio from the record book," said Steve Hirdt, Elias' executive vice president. "Rollins would be the non-single-season record holder."

Some have wondered why the distinction is necessary. After all, Eric Gagneis often mentioned as having the record for converting the most consecutive save opportunities (84) and he did that over three seasons. Hirdt set it straight: While it's true that Gagne did convert more consecutive saves than anyone else, it is not an official Elias record simply because save opportunities are not an official statistic.

If Rollins hits in the first 20 games this season, he would go for DiMaggio's non-single-season record on April 26 at Citizens Bank Park. Should he get it, the debates are likely to be long and loud.


"I can just see one of those screaming shows with people taking different sides of this issue," Hirdt said.

Whose is more impressive, Jimmy's or Joe's? Joe did it one season and never let up. Yeah, but Jimmy had to get hot once, shut it down, then get hot again. Yeah, but Jimmy got to rest and reload for an entire winter.

"As soon as someone accomplishes a feat, the 'Yeah, buts' begin," Hirdt said. "I'm sure there are people out there who think Ben Roethlisberger should have tackled that defensive back with two hands.

"The bottom line is: If Jimmy does it, he will have hit in 57 games in a row over two seasons, and that's something no one has done.

"It will not be exactly the same thing as Joe's, but being different doesn't mean it can't be appreciated. Time ran out on him, and he'll just have to pick it up this season. I'd like to see him make a run at it."
MattW
It counts, it's even harder to keep it up after a season break than it is to do it in a single season because you have the momentum. There's the same amount of pressure on Rollins than there was on DiMaggio, only DiMaggio didn't have to rebuild his momentum like Rollins does.
birdistheword
To be honest, I thought it would a better contact hitter than Rollins, like Iguchi. Looking at past seasons, Rollins's numbers look good, but not that good. Is this a breakthrough or a fluke? Who knows.

QUOTE("thebaseballpage.com")
After the streak was stopped, thanks in large part to a pair of fine defensive plays by Cleveland third baseman Ken Keltner, Joe started a 16-game hitting streak. Thus, he hit safely in 72 of 73 games


If it wasn't for Keltner, imagine if Dimaggio got that 73 game hitting streak....(he actually held a 61 game hitting streak before going to the majors). SEVENTY-THREE, that would've been mind-blowing.
without_opinion
how many games did george brett get up to many years ago?
EastBayJ
QUOTE(without_opinion @ Apr 6 2006, 09:46 AM) [snapback]57870[/snapback]

how many games did george brett get up to many years ago?

Brett nearly hit .400 back in 1980, but I don't ever recall him having a long hitting streak.

Edit: Brett had a 30 game streak back in 1980 (7/18/80 - 8/18/80).



Ten longest hitting streaks in AL


56 - Joe DiMaggio (1941)
41 - George Sisler (1922)
40 - Ty Cobb (1911)
39 - Paul Molitor (1987)
35 - Ty Cobb (1917)
34 - George Sisler (1925)
34 - George McQuinn (1938)
34 - Dom DiMaggio (1949)
33 - Hal Chase (1907)
33 - Heinie Manush (1933)


Ten longest hitting streaks in NL


45 - Willie Keeler (1896-97)
44 - Pete Rose (1978)
42 - Bill Dahlen (1894)
38 - Jimmy Rollins (2005-06) (Current)
37 - Tommy Holmes (1945)
36 - Billy Hamilton (1894)
35 - Fred Clarke (1895)
35 - Luis Castillo (2002)
34 - Benito Santiago (1987)
34 - George Davis (1893)
Howard Rock
The Curse of the SOMB strikes again...

Rollins 0/4 today...just hours after this thread was started.

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without_opinion
QUOTE(Howard Rock @ Apr 6 2006, 05:19 PM) [snapback]58174[/snapback]

The Curse of the SOMB strikes again...

Rollins 0/4 today...just hours after this thread was started.

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can you check out how the white players did in the same game?
Slackmo

What's up with the thread title here? Some jigga-baiting?
Howard Rock
QUOTE(without_opinion @ Apr 6 2006, 06:20 PM) [snapback]58176[/snapback]

can you check out how the white players did in the same game?


I believe they got some hits.

Edmonds 1/5
Rolen 2/5
Miles 2/2
Utley 1/4

I believe that some of the white pitchers got some of the black guys out too.
zolacolby
QUOTE(Slackmo @ Apr 6 2006, 05:21 PM) [snapback]58177[/snapback]

What's up with the thread title here? Some jigga-baiting?

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