Mitchell
Sep 23 2010, 09:18 AM
Choose your favourite. #1 (Yes, this is the last one of these)
Merle
Sep 23 2010, 09:21 AM
our #1s are so terrifically awful
Raj (Noble Con)
Sep 23 2010, 09:32 AM
there's one great album and one great single up there
Duff.
Sep 23 2010, 09:50 AM
Album couldn't be more obvious, but I at least kinda like all the singles.
Raj (Noble Con)
Sep 23 2010, 10:09 AM
No amount of stumping is going to save your precious Post-War from the cold light of 2010, Yeah Duff.
Poor DYWT. Near-instantaneous backlash. "We chose what??" The only underrated #1.
elc
Sep 23 2010, 10:16 AM
QUOTE (Raj (Noble Con) @ Sep 23 2010, 09:32 AM)

there's one great album and one great single up there
you know I love you Raj, but it's this type of post which I find as off-putting as Montana's holier than thou opinions. And as obvious as it seems to you guys, I don't have a clue which are the "great" album or single up there. Only know my opinion.
Rob Gordon
Sep 23 2010, 10:17 AM
Call me funeral crazy but...
Pavement Ist Rad
Sep 23 2010, 10:22 AM
QUOTE (elcorazon @ Sep 23 2010, 10:16 AM)

QUOTE (Raj (Noble Con) @ Sep 23 2010, 09:32 AM)

there's one great album and one great single up there
you know I love you Raj, but it's this type of post which I find as off-putting as Montana's holier than thou opinions. And as obvious as it seems to you guys, I don't have a clue which are the "great" album or single up there. Only know my opinion.
Third and "Blind." Duh.
Liffey
Sep 23 2010, 10:22 AM
QUOTE (Raj (Noble Con) @ Sep 23 2010, 09:32 AM)

there's one great album and one great single up there
Several good singles, but All My Friends is the one for me. MPP wins hands down, no competition there.
elc
Sep 23 2010, 10:24 AM
"Third" is definitely not great (imho)
Pavement Ist Rad
Sep 23 2010, 10:26 AM
Raj would think that it's great, though. You must not know the Raj persona particularly well.
You probably like Post-War the most and aren't head over heels in love with any of the singles choices, correct?
elc
Sep 23 2010, 10:30 AM
QUOTE (Pavement Ist Rad @ Sep 23 2010, 10:26 AM)

Raj would think that it's great, though. You must not know the Raj persona particularly well.
You probably like Post-War the most and aren't head over heels in love with any of the singles choices, correct?
pretty much. I do like Crazy. Funeral & Illinoise I like, but truth be told, I'd be more interested in hearing Post-War.
Duff.
Sep 23 2010, 10:34 AM
QUOTE (Raj (Noble Con) @ Sep 23 2010, 10:09 AM)

No amount of stumping is going to save your precious Post-War from the cold light of 2010, Yeah Duff.
Heh. Probably did well on my '06(?) list, to be honest.
Pavement Ist Rad
Sep 23 2010, 10:36 AM
It's quite the unobjectionable recording, I gotta say.
Minutes Late
Sep 23 2010, 10:41 AM
Portishead by default as it's the only album I'd even consider listening to.
Raj (Noble Con)
Sep 23 2010, 10:50 AM
QUOTE (elcorazon @ Sep 23 2010, 10:16 AM)

QUOTE (Raj (Noble Con) @ Sep 23 2010, 09:32 AM)

there's one great album and one great single up there
you know I love you Raj, but it's this type of post which I find as off-putting as Montana's holier than thou opinions.
idk, people probably shouldn't infer an implied criticism of their beliefs from an innocuous statement of mine
Be the grizzly, Elco. ;)
Montana
Sep 23 2010, 10:51 AM
Wow SOMB, just wow.
On top of the horrific list, you have Portishead getting the most votes. That record may contain the worst lyrics of the last decade.
Waves Within
Sep 23 2010, 10:54 AM
Jesus, what a horrible couple of lists. Out of all of those only '1901' and 'Float On' would make any sort of decade list I compiled.
Duff.
Sep 23 2010, 10:56 AM
Figured you'd be down with Blind.
Raj (Noble Con)
Sep 23 2010, 10:57 AM
to clarify I have only heard three of the albums in question, and I don't really remember what two of those sound like
so I guess they all could be great! everybody wins
QUOTE (Duff. @ Sep 23 2010, 10:56 AM)

Figured you'd be down with Blind.
I like to imagine there's some kind of trance/throwback disco schism at work here
Mitchell
Sep 23 2010, 10:58 AM
QUOTE (Montana @ Sep 23 2010, 04:51 PM)

That record may contain the worst lyrics of the last decade.
I know you are trolling but do you excpect any one to believe of all the lyrics in the perirod 2000-2009 the worst ones were found on
Third, worse than any novelty song or Scouting For girls song.
As I've said before were those lyrics not coming out of a women's mouth you'd be
telling everyone how brilliant they were.
Drinky
Sep 23 2010, 11:06 AM
Surprised Portishead is running away with this. Maybe just because I haven't spent much time here prior to just recently. It's a great album, but I didn't vote for it.
I like all of these albums. I like that LCDS the least, but I guess I've come around on it a little. It's still my least favorite of their three albums, though. There are also a couple of Sufjan albums that I like a lot more than Illinois. I am aware that this is not relevant to how these albums stack up to other albums on this list.
The singles, whatever. I voted for something, but I almost voted for something else.
Cinnamon P.
Sep 23 2010, 11:07 AM
I went with the pretty typical choices for a WASP. I tend to listen to Funeral more often than Third, my only logical other choice. As for the singles, I had to go with All My Friends because, well, it still hits me. The only other logical choice was Blind but tbh, I haven't listened to that in a while and don't find it nearly as memorable as James Murphy's ode to oldness.
elc
Sep 23 2010, 11:12 AM
QUOTE (Raj (Noble Con) @ Sep 23 2010, 10:50 AM)

QUOTE (elcorazon @ Sep 23 2010, 10:16 AM)

QUOTE (Raj (Noble Con) @ Sep 23 2010, 09:32 AM)

there's one great album and one great single up there
you know I love you Raj, but it's this type of post which I find as off-putting as Montana's holier than thou opinions.
idk, people probably shouldn't infer an implied criticism of their beliefs from an innocuous statement of mine
Be the grizzly, Elco. ;)
I guess my main point was the dichotomy that seems to exist between off the cuff criticisms by certain sombies as opposed to others. It didn't truly offend me or anything. You probably shouldn't have been singled out, but I'd rather single you out, as someone whose generally pretty level headed and with whom I've rarely butted heads, at least on a personal level.
Montana
Sep 23 2010, 11:12 AM
QUOTE (Mitchell @ Sep 23 2010, 10:58 AM)

As I've said before were those lyrics not coming out of a women's mouth you'd be telling everyone how brilliant they were.
That's a strange comment since my YE lists are stacked with female artists.
The lyrics in "Third" are atrocious. That is a calculated and soulless piece of work and I'm shocked that people buy into it.
I'd like to laugh at what you said
but I just can't find a smile
I wonder why you can't
I struggle with myself
hoping I might change a little
hoping that I might be someone I wanna be
looking out I want to know someone might care
looking out I want a reason to be there
cause I don't know what I've done to deserve you
and I don't know what I'll do without you
looking out I want to know some way might clear
looking out I want a reason to repair
cause I don't know what I've done to deserve you
and I don't know what I'll do without you
I can't see nothing good
and nothing is so bad
I never had a chance
to explain exactly what I meant----
Tempted in our minds
Tormented inside lie
Wounded and afraid
Inside my head
Falling through changes
Did you know when you lost?
Did you know when I wanted?
Did you know what I lost?
Do you know what I wanted?
Empty in our hearts
Crying out in silence
Wandered out of reach
Too far to speak
Drifting unable
Did you know when you lost?
Did you know when I wanted?
Did you know what I lost?
Do you know what I wanted----
I
stand on the edge of a broken sky
And I will come down; don't know why
And if I should fall, would you hold me?
Would you pass me by?
For you know I'd ask you for nothing
Just to wait for a while
So confused
My thoughts are takin' over
Unwanted, arising space me instead
Won't let go-----
The taste of life
I can't describe
It's chocking on my mind
Reaching out I can't believe
Faith it can't decide
On and on I carry on
But underneath my mind
And on and on I tell my self
It's this I can't disguise
Oh can't you see
Holding on to my heart
I bleed the taste of life
The pace, the time,
I can't survive
It's grinding down the view
Breaking out which way to choose
A choice I can't renew
Holding on I carry on
But underneath my mind
And on and on I tell my self
It's this I can't disguise
Oh can't you see
Holding on to my heart
I bleed, no place is safe
Can't you see the taste of life------
I’m drifting in deep water
Alone with my self-doubting, againTry not to struggle this time
For I will weather the stormGotta remember (gonna remember)
Don’t fight it (don’t fight it)Even if I (even if I)
Don’t like it (don’t like it)Somehow, turn me around
(Somehow, turn me around)
No matter how far I drift
Deep waters (Deep waters)
Won’t scare me tonight ------
if only I could see
You turn myself to me
and recognise the poison in my heart
there is no other place
no one else I face
remedy, we’ll agree, is how I feel
here in my reflecting
What more can I say?
for I am guilty
for the voice that I obey
too scared to sacrifice a choice
chosen for melol
Who actually hears those lyrics and says "yeah, that's some good shit there"
These third grade level Trapper Keeper scrawlings make Morrison look like Hemingway. And at least Morrison had a kick ass band behind him instead of an Apple with Pro Tools.
"The taste of life...I can't describe...it's choking on my mind....."
hahahahah
Drinky
Sep 23 2010, 11:18 AM
I don't see anything particularly wrong with them, honestly.
Look, I still like The Flaming Lips and all, but wtf is a rabid Flaming Lips fan doing complaining about lyrics, anyway?
Mitchell
Sep 23 2010, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (Montana @ Sep 23 2010, 05:12 PM)

QUOTE (Mitchell @ Sep 23 2010, 10:58 AM)

As I've said before were those lyrics not coming out of a women's mouth you'd be telling everyone how brilliant they were.
That's a strange comment since my YE lists are stacked with female artists.
Which year end list was this then? By stacked do you mean three or four out of 20?
Duff.
Sep 23 2010, 11:20 AM
She can be a frog, Drinky.
hibster
Sep 23 2010, 11:22 AM
let's compare it to some other lyrics, how about these?
Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay
And your O.K.
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands
And make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money get back
I'm all right Jack
Keep your hands off my stack
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that
Do goody good bullshit
I'm in the hi-fidelity
First class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet
(Sax and guitar solos)
Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly
But don't take a slice of my pie
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil
Today
But if you ask for a rise
It's no surprise that they're
Giving none away
Away
Away
Away
Away...
nuff said?
Mitchell
Sep 23 2010, 11:23 AM
QUOTE (Drinky @ Sep 23 2010, 05:18 PM)

I don't see anything particularly wrong with them, honestly.
Oh neither does he, people on here like Portishead so he doesn't. That's all there is too it. He's an empty vessel of a poster offering lolopinions to try and rile people up.
If you genuinely think he thinks those lyrics are terrible compared to the rubbish he usually holds up you're falling for his nonsense. He'd quite easily claim those for an aging male dinosaur as atmospheric and brilliant.
Giant Panda
Sep 23 2010, 11:23 AM
Those are some pretty solid gangster rap lyrics.
Montana
Sep 23 2010, 11:34 AM
QUOTE (hibster @ Sep 23 2010, 11:22 AM)

let's compare it to some other lyrics, how about these?
Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay
And your O.K.
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands
And make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money get back
I'm all right Jack
Keep your hands off my stack
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that
Do goody good bullshit
I'm in the hi-fidelity
First class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet
(Sax and guitar solos)
Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly
But don't take a slice of my pie
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil
Today
But if you ask for a rise
It's no surprise that they're
Giving none away
Away
Away
Away
Away...
nuff said?
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Montana
Sep 23 2010, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Mitchell @ Sep 23 2010, 11:23 AM)

QUOTE (Drinky @ Sep 23 2010, 05:18 PM)

I don't see anything particularly wrong with them, honestly.
Oh neither does he, people on here like Portishead so he doesn't. That's all there is too it. He's an empty vessel of a poster offering lolopinions to try and rile people up.
If you genuinely think he thinks those lyrics are terrible compared to the rubbish he usually holds up you're falling for his nonsense. He'd quite easily claim those for an aging male dinosaur as atmospheric and brilliant.
Mitch, that's simply not true. While I'm not going to defend any of my recent picks as Dylan or Waters, that doesn't mean that those Portishead lyrics aren't the product of some angst-ridder third grader.
Giant Panda
Sep 23 2010, 11:43 AM
The Portishead lyrics are better than that website LOL.
Mitchell
Sep 23 2010, 11:51 AM
Why are you so obsessed with the phrase 'angst-ridden'?
Montana
Sep 23 2010, 11:53 AM
Really? I didn't notice that.
Raj (Noble Con)
Sep 23 2010, 11:54 AM
Was secretly hoping this thread would turn to Pink Floyd discussion, but never imagined it would happen so fast!
Duff.
Sep 23 2010, 11:56 AM
Hard to believe In Rainbows wasn't number one on a SOMB list.
Giant Panda
Sep 23 2010, 11:58 AM
I just saw forked lightning striking a rainbow. True story.
Duff.
Sep 23 2010, 12:00 PM
Pitchforked lightning, I presume.
The Good Dr Bill
Sep 23 2010, 12:11 PM
I kind of like the idea of Third being calculated. So few artists see the obvious connection between mental/spiritual deterioration and commercial success.
I voted for "Do You Want To," ftr. Great song.
caley
Sep 23 2010, 12:16 PM
It saddened me to go with 'Funeral', but it's the only album on that list I've bothered to listen to in the past year or so.
And 'Float On' is such an awesome song (Probably a Top 10 of the decade for me) that I couldn't go with anything else.
Interesting, selection of albums that went #1, considering many of them are FAR from a consensus SOMB-beloved album.
Mitchell
Sep 23 2010, 12:22 PM
What interests me the most is once we changed the points distribution for 2007 the results seem to chime with the board's direction more. (In fact we share Album of the Year 2007, 2008 and 2009 with the people at Uncut.)
spiritofeden
Sep 23 2010, 02:07 PM
wow, 2004-2009 sucked.
n.k
Sep 23 2010, 02:09 PM
I choose the newest album and the oldest single.
Montana
Sep 23 2010, 02:52 PM
I was at the Borders in Billings, MT in early August (fifteen pounds lighter, lol - the trip and the last two weeks have been nothing but junk food) and there was this gorgeous female performer with an acoustic guitar singing an outstanding melody. I couldn't place the song and it drove me crazy. She finishes her show, gets a coffee, stands directly across the magazine rack from me and I catch her making eye contact. So I walk over and tell her the melody was incredibly familiar, and she told me it was "Casimir Pulaski Day". I complimented her, and she asked me what I was doing out there. I told her my gig(s) and we exchanged numbers. A bit young for my tastes (probably no older than 20) but you could tell she was wise beyond her years.
So I voted for Illinois, and those haunting eyes from across the magazine rack.
Ned
Sep 23 2010, 02:57 PM
^ respect. To me, a pretty perfect reason to vote for something.
I voted for crazy, due to the fact that it's been played about 5 times more frequently on the radio than the rest of the songs combined, and I'm still not sick of it. Oh, and for Third, cause I'm dark and shit.
cheese picture
Sep 23 2010, 03:06 PM
i voted for "crazy" and funeral but i would sooner listen to merriweather or sound of silver
spiritofeden
Sep 23 2010, 03:18 PM
Funeral and 1901
raumschwein
Sep 23 2010, 03:39 PM
I voted for Sound of Silver, even though I may well never listen to it again. In 2007, it was magic.
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