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stephen thomas erlewine
this is already a great episode. good rebound after last week's nonsense.
Moo & Oink
The show last night was terrible; Randy gets on my nerves with his stupidity. I didn't get what the KFC closings was about.
Montana
QUOTE (stephen thomas erlewine @ Mar 24 2010, 09:09 PM) *
this is already a great episode. good rebound after last week's nonsense.



I agree. I highly enjoyd Farty McBubbles or whatever it was. Nice to see them move away from the tired political/pop culture formula. They have such great characters. All they need to do is put them in funny situations. There's no need for their obsession with theme the last several years.
stephen thomas erlewine
yeah, and last night's episode was also very funny. not as good as the previous week's, which is an all-time great in my book, but still very funny and not hair-pullingly obvious. i'm still trying to make sense of the message last night, but i was laughing consistently throughout.
nina_riot
all i could think about during the kfc episode was "wouldn't that really hurt those guys?"
amnesious
The last episode started off well but kind of trailed off a bit. I find that to be the case with most episodes of South Park these days. A funny premise that doesn't really go anywhere.

I must say I pissed myself when Randy was singing Buffalo Soldier while walkin down the street with his balls in a wheelbarrow
nobodies
I thought the KFC episode was pretty great. Highlights for me were Cartman's random digs at the pope ("Does a bear crap in the woods and does the Pope crap on the dreams of 200 deaf boys?"); and the background music while I'll the guys hippity-hopped around on their nutsacks.
nobodies
so I thought the last two episodes were pretty excellent. Great way to take a walk down memory lane for the 200th episode. Barbara streisand, and her duet with Neil Diamond, was hilarious (and for some reason, I couldn't get enough of her saw-arm). Plus the return of Scott Tenorman.

The episode also revamped one of my favorite images from the series: dead whale and dead tom cruise on the moon. Even though part of the premise of the series is that the kids are more sophisticated than the adults, I always like when they tap into the kids' naivete.
richard
where do i find this episode!!!!!
nobodies
not on southpark.com (or is it southparkstudios.com?). Comedy Central has banned Matt and Trey from streaming it on their website (I don't know if that goes for both parts, or just last night's episode). I assume Comedy Central will continue to run the edited version in re-runs this week. It typically get's replayed 3 or 4 times before next week's episode (usually between 9 and 11).
richard
found it.

http://www.south-park-episode.com/featured...isode-1406-201/

Tony
spiritofeden
this season started off with 2 stinkers and had me kind of worried. glad to see they have really picked it up since then.
zumpano
Last night's show: potential series finale? sign of new direction? just a comment on their current creative situation and their viewers' insatiable demands?
stephen thomas erlewine
QUOTE (zumpano @ Jun 10 2011, 01:23 AM) *
Last night's show: potential series finale? sign of new direction? just a comment on their current creative situation and their viewers' insatiable demands?

dunno. more like 'pixar-level excellence' for me. don't know how serious it was meant to be, but i'll be damned if it didn't get to me in a pretty serious way. been thinking about that episode pretty much non-stop since it was over.
tweed
QUOTE (stephen thomas erlewine @ Jun 10 2011, 09:31 AM) *
been thinking about that episode pretty much non-stop since it was over.



same. pretty deep shit. ha, shit!
Ned
If they are done, they're going out on top. Pretty insane how long their run of really great material has continued. Out-longevitied the Simpsons imo.
nobodies
QUOTE (stephen thomas erlewine @ Jun 10 2011, 09:31 AM) *
QUOTE (zumpano @ Jun 10 2011, 01:23 AM) *
Last night's show: potential series finale? sign of new direction? just a comment on their current creative situation and their viewers' insatiable demands?

dunno. more like 'pixar-level excellence' for me. don't know how serious it was meant to be, but i'll be damned if it didn't get to me in a pretty serious way. been thinking about that episode pretty much non-stop since it was over.


Yeah it was pretty intense, even if you don't try and read any subtext into it. My wife was actually crying her eyes out, although that was due in large part to some relationship shit she's been going through (not she and I, but others in her family).

And I think this season has been all around pretty stellar (maybe with the exception of the royal wedding). Loved the human centipad (it's an ipad and it craps in kyle's mouth!), and the crack baby athletic association was probablymy favorite. Loved cartman as an old timey slave owner (student ath-o-lete).
stephen thomas erlewine
QUOTE (G. Gordon Liddy @ Jun 10 2011, 10:45 AM) *
Out-longevitied the Simpsons imo.


i had this exact same thought yesterday. it's difficult to imagine the simpsons team being able to come up with an episode as smart and sad and self-aware an as this one. and while i'll always prefer early simpsons to any era of south park, this episode of south park might be one of the best single shows i've ever seen.

but i doubt that the show is over. parker and stone are still on contract, and i'm doubt that comedy central will let them out early, no matter how tired they are of repeating themselves. if we're lucky, this thoughtfulness will continue through the rest of the show's run, but that's probably not very likely, landslide or not.
MattW
Why would they ever quit when this show shits money and is dirt cheap and easy to write and produce?
Ned
QUOTE (MattW @ Jun 10 2011, 08:53 AM) *
Why would they ever quit when this show shits money and is dirt cheap and easy to write and produce?


I thought this was answered by the episode. Sick of repeating themselves, starting to think that every episode is just a bunch of shit, and just not into it anymore? Hopefully not though... as long as they can continue operating at this high level, I hope they keep going.
If I were as rich as these dudes, I wouldn't really give a shit about making more money.
MattW
True but they have a staff of writers and computer guys that give a shit about having a job.

And no, I didn't see it as I think the show has largely been a waste of time since about 2003.
_jon
Meh, I just saw this as an insult to the show's fanbase. But then again, the show has been doing the same facepalm gag for too long, I'm not sure why anyone would care at this point.

If you want meaning, uneasiness and brilliant writing in an animated series in the TV-MA catergory, then just watch the last season of Moral Orel. The show remains massively underrated, probably because of its more "realistic" approach of a life of a kid who thinks like, well, a kid. Yeah, children don't smoke crack, or are as devoted to God as Moral, but that's the joke. He's naive but learns from his mistakes, while the South Park kids were written as cynical know-it-alls leaving the adults as the punchline.
Moo & Oink
[quote name='_jon' date='Jun 10 2011, 03:20 PM' post='1022900']
Meh, I just saw this as an insult to the show's fanbase. But then again, the show has been doing the same facepalm gag for too long, I'm not sure why anyone would care at this point.

If you want meaning, uneasiness and brilliant writing in an animated series in the TV-MA catergory, then just watch the last season of Moral Orel. The show remains massively underrated, probably because of its more "realistic" approach of a life of a kid who thinks like, well, a kid. Yeah, children don't smoke crack, or are as devoted to God as Moral, but that's the joke. He's naive but learns from his mistakes, while the South Park kids were written as cynical know-it-alls leaving the adults as the punchline.
Having the adults come off as idiots is what makes South Park good. It may be as readily apparent, but South Park is moralistic as well; Parker & Stone are often critical of all sides of the political & ideological compass, but by show's end, they find a stance that's somewhere in-between the conflicting viewpoints.
MattW
QUOTE (Moo & Oink @ Jun 10 2011, 05:22 PM) *
Parker & Stone are often critical of all sides of the political & ideological compass, but by show's end, they find a stance that's somewhere in-between the conflicting viewpoints.


Fair and balanced. They just gave Bush's presidency a complete free pass while ceaselessly targeting outspoken leftist celebrities, global warming, get out the vote campaigns in 04, etc. and practically coming to the defense of the Catholic Church at the height of the priest pedophilia outrage. But hey, they take one shot at the social conservatives for every 5 shots at left leaning ideas, so that's totally in-between.


I wish they would just drop the FOX News act that they're trying to be fair and just own up to their biases. I guess they have in certain interviews, but you have to do the research to find it.

South Park Republicans
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Q: Are you two guys liberal or conservative? Me and my friends have had debates about this.
TREY: We avoid extremes but we hate liberals more than conservatives and we hate them [conservatives].
MATT: I hate conservatives but I really fucking hate liberals.

Angrimorfee
In other news, Parker & Stone Just cleaned up at the Tony Awards for The Book of Mormon.

Who would have ever thought this would occur? (Conservatives? Hmmm...)
zumpano
QUOTE (Angrimorfee @ Jun 13 2011, 04:39 PM) *
In other news, Parker & Stone Just cleaned up at the Tony Awards for The Book of Mormon.

Who would have ever thought this would occur? (Conservatives? Hmmm...)

They also thanked South Park fans everytime they won one last night. Made me wonder if there was something more to the lip service.
Merle
I always look to conservatives for the inside scoop on Broadway
MattW
What would their winning Tony's have to do with their political leanings?

These guys love musical numbers. The South Park movie had tons of musical numbers and Team America had its share too.
Johnny Feathers
I'm not a big theater guy, but it's kinda cool that I got to see BOM with the original cast and all, the year it won for best musical. It'll be touring, for anyone who's interested. Definitely worth it.
Angrimorfee
QUOTE (MattW @ Jun 13 2011, 09:02 PM) *
What would their winning Tony's have to do with their political leanings?

These guys love musical numbers. The South Park movie had tons of musical numbers and Team America had its share too.


And, lest we forget, the underrated "Cannibal: The Musical".
Not that they won Tonys...the fact they associate with Broadway at all.
Tony
QUOTE (Angrimorfee @ Jun 14 2011, 07:48 AM) *
QUOTE (MattW @ Jun 13 2011, 09:02 PM) *
What would their winning Tony's have to do with their political leanings?

These guys love musical numbers. The South Park movie had tons of musical numbers and Team America had its share too.


And, lest we forget, the underrated "Cannibal: The Musical".
Not that they won Tonys...the fact they associate with Broadway at all.



After the brilliant feature film musical I would expect a stage musical to be the next logical step no?
WesterMats
South Park Creators Say Show not Over

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Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the creators of 'South Park' have dismissed reports that the US TV show is nearing its end.

There had been speculation that the animated comedy's recent mid-season finale 'You're Getting Old' marked the beginning of the end for the series, due to its dark and cynical tone.

However, in an interview on the 'Daily Show with Jon Stewart' Parker said that he and co-creator Matt Stone have "not really" grown tired of the series.

He added: "We love 'South Park', that's still our thing."

Parker admitted that the self-mocking tone of the mid-season finale reflected "things we were feeling" but described making the episode as "fun".

He added: "We did it by the seat of our pants.

"Obviously it had a lot of themes and things we were feeling in it, but we came back and people were like, 'Are you okay? Is the show coming back?' and we were like, 'Yeah'."

He also admitted that they currently have no idea about how to resolve the mid-season cliffhanger, in which Stan's parents Randy and Sharon separated and Kyle befriended his old nemesis Cartman.

Parker said: "We don't know what's going to happen, but we'll figure it out in August".


Daily Show Episode
Angrimorfee
"...By the seat of our pants..." pretty much describes the series as a whole.
MattW
Yep, it's going to take complete irrelevance, indifference, and bad ratings for them ever to stop. They hit a sweet spot for apolitical right of center of young adults that love gross out humor, and making fun of liberal causes yet punt the social conservative causes.
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