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vurt

Apr 7 2006, 09:37 PM

I liked Down in Albion quite a lot, despite the overwhelmingly negative response from nearly everywhere else. This DPT album sounds merely ok, but I've only heard it twice. There are some good tracks here though.

DrJimmy

Apr 7 2006, 10:36 PM

yeah, okay, i was fooled by the guitar work on DPT, which made me think it was better than Albion. it's not, i agree with above statements by brent.

don't know if i'll ever listen to these boring spin-offs again. i'd rather watch joanie loves chachi.

thecleanversion

Apr 8 2006, 01:56 PM

QUOTE(solace @ Apr 7 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]58970[/snapback]

can y'all send the thing it in a bit if someone else doesn't beat me to it

any way that you could y'all send the thing this? I'd be happy to hook y'all up with something.. open to requests (vague, I know. but i have a lot of stuff).

Mitchell

Apr 8 2006, 04:50 PM

If this is as fierce as the demos than I will enjoy..

iForward, Russia! - Give Me A Wall

CODE

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VLZMAUO

= marios =

Apr 8 2006, 08:07 PM

QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 9 2006, 12:50 AM) [snapback]59831[/snapback]

If this is as fierce as the demos than I will enjoy..

iForward, Russia! - Give Me A Wall

CODE

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VLZMAUO

That's the link posted on Yahtzee, isn't it?

Mitchell

Apr 8 2006, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 9 2006, 12:50 AM) [snapback]59831[/snapback]

If this is as fierce as the demos than I will enjoy..

iForward, Russia! - Give Me A Wall

CODE

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VLZMAUO

That's the link posted on Yahtzee, isn't it?

Yeah I tried once to to upload it and it died, It's permanent anyway so I can't see any problem.

(Also unlikely anyone on here cares much!)

= marios =

Apr 8 2006, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(= marios = @ Apr 9 2006, 02:07 AM) [snapback]59911[/snapback]

QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 9 2006, 12:50 AM) [snapback]59831[/snapback]

If this is as fierce as the demos than I will enjoy..

iForward, Russia! - Give Me A Wall

CODE

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VLZMAUO

That's the link posted on Yahtzee, isn't it?

Yeah I tried once to to upload it and it died, It's permanent anyway so I can't see any problem.

(Also unlikely anyone on here cares much!)

Oh i wasn't criticising! I just found it funny cause i thought i was the only one who nicked perma-links from other boards.

amotin

Apr 10 2006, 09:23 AM

So still new good PJ rip? I was fully expecting it to show up by this morning.

cmon solace, we know you have the goods...

l_p_4_7

Apr 10 2006, 09:33 AM

New Radio Dept. Album "Pet Grief":

CODE

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fbem9h

atrius

Apr 10 2006, 10:04 AM

QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 9 2006, 01:50 AM) [snapback]59831[/snapback]

If this is as fierce as the demos than I will enjoy..

iForward, Russia! - Give Me A Wall

CODE

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VLZMAUO

This album is absolutely fantastic. The production (comparing to the demos) makes a big difference.

Mitchell

Apr 10 2006, 10:33 AM

Yeah I thought it was pretty good too. Shame they are getting any press, that's what happens when you release your own records though (and that's why it's leaked so quickly.)

If you are half intriged and want some kind of quirk to make you download it, here's the tracklist.

1. Thirteen
2. Twelve
3. Fifteen Part 1
4. Nine
5. Nineteen
6. Seventeen
7. Eighteen
8. Sixteen
9. Seven
10. Fifteen part 2
11. Eleven

Music Saves

Apr 10 2006, 10:40 AM

QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 10 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]60989[/snapback]

Yeah I thought it was pretty good too. Shame they are getting any press, that's what happens when you release your own records though (and that's why it's leaked so quickly.)

If you are half intriged and want some kind of quirk to make you download it, here's the tracklist.

1. Thirteen
2. Twelve
3. Fifteen Part 1
4. Nine
5. Nineteen
6. Seventeen
7. Eighteen
8. Sixteen
9. Seven
10. Fifteen part 2
11. Eleven

I wasn't feeling this at all, what am I missing?

rudayo

Apr 10 2006, 11:46 AM

QUOTE(brent_D @ Apr 7 2006, 03:38 PM) [snapback]59107[/snapback]

thank you for the DPT leak.

but it's not as good as the Babyshambles album. It's pretty much the same record, but with no personality, soul, or allure. If you thought the reggae moments on Babyshambles were bad (they're not), you need to hear Carl trying it. Dave Sardy goes far to ruin the record too with his in-the-red crackle that he's been slapping on every record since Barkmarket. The entire thing is just an unending wall of trebly guitar.

Carl seems more desperate to recreate the Libertines, but does not have the charisma or lyrics to pull it off.

This is awfully depressing because I thought the Babyshambles record was a complete waste of time save for maybe two songs.

Mitchell

Apr 10 2006, 12:01 PM

The first 5 tracks on DPT are OK/good the rest are not very good at all.

Re; The ¡Forward, Russia! It's nice to have some sharp anglular guitar music that has a sense of anger to the vocal delivery to it.

Artem

Apr 10 2006, 12:05 PM

i guess its an imperative for me to hear an album from a band with a name like that.

Music Saves

Apr 10 2006, 12:23 PM

QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 10 2006, 12:01 PM) [snapback]61076[/snapback]

The first 5 tracks on DPT are OK/good the rest are not very good at all.

Re; The ¡Forward, Russia! It's nice to have some sharp anglular guitar music that has a sense of anger to the vocal delivery to it.

DPT has definitely grown on me after several listens, melodies and hooks reveal themselves with repeated plays. Not the Libs, but I wasn't expecting that. It's pretty good.

Miiilo

Apr 10 2006, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(brent_D @ Apr 7 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]59107[/snapback]

Carl seems more desperate to recreate the Libertines, but does not have the charisma or lyrics to pull it off.

Anyway, I didn't really think Carl was a particularly good frontman on his own. Not horrible, just not that exciting. And he seemed pretty uncomfortable up there to boot.

The lyrics seem kind of forced, like they were taken from some pre-conceived notion of what rock bands are supposed to sing about. It was pretty much what I expected. Pleasant enough, but I doubt I'll be listening to this two months from now.

I think you're onto it, Oddity . . . Carl just sort of has defeat wrapped around in his voice and his every expression. It's a shame because some of my favorites from "Up the Bracket" were some of his songs, but he hasn't really been able to match them since. This DPT album is decent, yeah, but he does sort of left back in the disconnected boxcar of Libertines-lite conventional rock . . . at least with the mess that is a lot of those Babyshambles tracks, there is a little more space for possibility.

And yeah, I don't feel like the DPT are going to stick with me. Yeah, I didn't like "Albion" on the first time through, but it's begun to grow on me, but I just don't see "Waterloo" as having that same potential. I'd still go out to see The Things (or should it be 'The Dirties') play if they make it this far.

Brief side-rant: was I the only one who thought that the album version of "Killamangiro" was massively disappointing? It sounded to me like the band doing an amateur cover of themselves, pete practically falling over, tripping over his own lyrics. Shame, too, because I really felt like the song equaled the best of Pete's work in the Libertines.

Music Saves

Apr 10 2006, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(brent_D @ Apr 7 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]59107[/snapback]

Carl seems more desperate to recreate the Libertines, but does not have the charisma or lyrics to pull it off.

Anyway, I didn't really think Carl was a particularly good frontman on his own. Not horrible, just not that exciting. And he seemed pretty uncomfortable up there to boot.

The lyrics seem kind of forced, like they were taken from some pre-conceived notion of what rock bands are supposed to sing about. It was pretty much what I expected. Pleasant enough, but I doubt I'll be listening to this two months from now.

I think you're onto it, Oddity . . . Carl just sort of has defeat wrapped around in his voice and his every expression. It's a shame because some of my favorites from "Up the Bracket" were some of his songs, but he hasn't really been able to match them since. This DPT album is decent, yeah, but he does sort of left back in the disconnected boxcar of Libertines-lite conventional rock . . . at least with the mess that is a lot of those Babyshambles tracks, there is a little more space for possibility.

And yeah, I don't feel like the DPT are going to stick with me. Yeah, I didn't like "Albion" on the first time through, but it's begun to grow on me, but I just don't see "Waterloo" as having that same potential. I'd still go out to see The Things (or should it be 'The Dirties') play if they make it this far.

Brief side-rant: was I the only one who thought that the album version of "Killamangiro" was massively disappointing? It sounded to me like the band doing an amateur cover of themselves, pete practically falling over, tripping over his own lyrics. Shame, too, because I really felt like the song equaled the best of Pete's work in the Libertines.

Um yeah, too many re-records of songs that were just fine as they were. But then again, weren't the original Babyshambles sessions that were acoustic and recorded in hotel rooms better than most of Down In Albion? Maybe it's because we've heard them the most, but there's just this sheer brilliance and perfection of those tracks, no matter how poorly recorded, that the finished product doesn't touch. I like DIA, but there's a bit of fat on it.

Stop Breathin'

Apr 10 2006, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 9 2006, 12:50 AM) [snapback]59831[/snapback]

If this is as fierce as the demos than I will enjoy..

iForward, Russia! - Give Me A Wall

CODE

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4VLZMAUO

That's the link posted on Yahtzee, isn't it?

I was chastised harshly in tone for trying to share in a similar way some pages back. Since then, I just leech. I tried. I've got Shooting At Unarmed Men - Yes! Tinnitus! if anyone wants it.

Space Oddity

Apr 10 2006, 03:25 PM

QUOTE(Miiilo @ Apr 10 2006, 01:53 PM) [snapback]61159[/snapback]

Brief side-rant: was I the only one who thought that the album version of "Killamangiro" was massively disappointing? It sounded to me like the band doing an amateur cover of themselves, pete practically falling over, tripping over his own lyrics. Shame, too, because I really felt like the song equaled the best of Pete's work in the Libertines.

No, you are not the only one. I thought the album version of "Killamangiro" pretty much sucked compared to the single. Also, I noticed they cut that whole part that starts at about two minutes in (on the single), the part that (to me) loosely steals the melody from the White Stripes' "We're Going to Be Friends" and put basically nothing in its place. That was dumb. Plus the album version just sounds terrible.

Plus, regarding the messiness of Down In Albion...
Who can name any members of Babyshambles besides Pete?
My guess is that without Carl around, he doesn't have anyone with equal clout in the band to tell him that something sounds like crap. Think about it, if you're a hired gun that can be easily replaced, are you going to tell the band leader that the song goes on for longer than it needs to, or that a particular song sucks? Probably not. Nobody's going to tell the guy his stuff needs editing, even thought some of it really does.

Oh, and did anyone see the Glorious Noise review? I thought it was pretty amusing:

http://www.gloriousnoise.com/articles/2006...open_letter.php

I think the guy has some pretty good points.

vurt

Apr 10 2006, 04:08 PM

QUOTE(Gareth Keenan Invetigates @ Apr 11 2006, 05:01 AM) [snapback]61076[/snapback]

The first 5 tracks on DPT are OK/good the rest are not very good at all.

Re; The ¡Forward, Russia! It's nice to have some sharp anglular guitar music that has a sense of anger to the vocal delivery to it.

"B.U.R.M.A" is the best track on the DPT, and while the first half is probably better overall, the record's really grown on me after a few listens.

And the iForward, Russia! is the album Bloc Party believe they made.

juvenal

Apr 10 2006, 04:15 PM

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"B.U.R.M.A" is the best track on the DPT, and while the first half is probably better overall, the record's really grown on me after a few listens.

chalk me up as another DPT grower victim. what was merely "good" the first few listens is now in "very good" territory.

ALSO:

Pearl Jam- Pearl Jam

CODE

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7CWKKTBN

Havent listened to the full thing yet, but sounds like the real deal. Sound quality is kinda wack on some songs.

Alky 2009

Apr 10 2006, 04:23 PM

Hopefully I'll get a chance to listen to DPT tonight, excited to check it out.

While we are on the "hot young UK Bands" tip, anyone heard Milburn? I've been reading decent things about them, but have yet to hear a track.

Mitchell

Apr 10 2006, 04:32 PM

Supporting Arctic Monkeys so I'm sure that we'll hear a lot more about them, I've seen on the tykes on TV, they seem alright.

http://www.milburn-music.com/downloads/ind...t=category&id=2

juvenal

Apr 10 2006, 04:35 PM

im actually really enjoying the new PJ. color me pleasantly surprised.

Alky 2009

Apr 10 2006, 04:42 PM

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im actually really enjoying the new PJ. color me pleasantly surprised.

Must.... control.... clicking.... finger....

No. GAAHHH!! I'm holding out dammit. I've held out for every Pearl Jam album so far, I can do it for this one!!

juvenal

Apr 10 2006, 04:44 PM

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Must.... control.... clicking.... finger....

No. GAAHHH!! I'm holding out dammit. I've held out for every Pearl Jam album so far, I can do it for this one!!

im sure its for the best...the sound quality is kinda crap on some songs. but still...

good luck with holding out. you are a stronger person than i.

solace

Apr 10 2006, 05:05 PM

hold out dude, it'll be much more enjoyable

but yeah, it's pretty good stuff

Alky 2009

Apr 10 2006, 05:08 PM

Yeah, I imagine I'll end up holding out. It was kinda nice to do that for the Flaming Lips album, even though I missed out on most of the discussion of that one.

Just something I still love about ripping off the cellophane and thumbing through the liner notes before I even hear a note.

Paul

Apr 10 2006, 05:24 PM

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Yeah, I imagine I'll end up holding out. It was kinda nice to do that for the Flaming Lips album, even though I missed out on most of the discussion of that one.

Just start a new discussion on the release date and act like no one here has talked about it.

st. park

Apr 10 2006, 07:05 PM

jesu - silver

hxxp://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UE9GGU1FTWNQ2JUZWC25SE7E3

ash

Apr 10 2006, 07:50 PM

rather ripped?

Alky 2009

Apr 10 2006, 07:58 PM

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rather ripped?

Nope, actually I'm completely sober right now.

[/dork]

I don't think its leaked yet, has it?

ash

Apr 10 2006, 08:12 PM

no - i've been seriously looking everywhere, can't find anything besides what's been posted here.

hinsey21

Apr 10 2006, 09:42 PM

QUOTE(A-Team @ Apr 10 2006, 05:35 PM) [snapback]61485[/snapback]

im actually really enjoying the new PJ. color me pleasantly surprised.

this new album is going to bring them back, i work at the largest retail music store in canada and the promoation pearl jam is getting for this album is fuckin serious shit, if you pre-order the album you get a code for a free bootleg, we have a huge banner poster coming, gonna have free posters and we have all there past albums on a display right now

as a fan, i am loving this album, but i would urge everyone to wait for a good rip

this could be the first pj album since vs where i can fully listen to the cd front to back without a problem, i think they really went for it and they finally got it

personal favs at the moment are life wasted, come back, severed hand and inside job

i think wws is middle of the road on the album and i really like wws

anyway cant wait to see it opening night

QUOTE(hinsey21 @ Apr 10 2006, 10:41 PM) [snapback]61691[/snapback]

QUOTE(A-Team @ Apr 10 2006, 05:35 PM) [snapback]61485[/snapback]

im actually really enjoying the new PJ. color me pleasantly surprised.

this new album is going to bring them back, i work at the largest retail music store in canada and the promoation pearl jam is getting for this album is fuckin serious shit, if you pre-order the album you get a code for a free bootleg, we have a huge banner poster coming, gonna have free posters and we have all there past albums on a display right now

as a fan, i am loving this album, but i would urge everyone to wait for a good rip

this could be the first pj album since vs where i can fully listen to the cd front to back without a problem, i think they really went for it and they finally got it

personal favs at the moment are life wasted, come back, severed hand and inside job

i think wws is middle of the road on the album and i really like wws

anyway cant wait to see it opening night

also i am intrested in what you think solace?

6ome 9irl

Apr 10 2006, 10:00 PM

st. park for jesu <3

elementus

Apr 10 2006, 10:12 PM

QUOTE(hinsey21 @ Apr 10 2006, 10:42 PM) [snapback]61691[/snapback]

QUOTE(A-Team @ Apr 10 2006, 05:35 PM) [snapback]61485[/snapback]

im actually really enjoying the new PJ. color me pleasantly surprised.

this new album is going to bring them back, i work at the largest retail music store in canada and the promoation pearl jam is getting for this album is fuckin serious shit, if you pre-order the album you get a code for a free bootleg, we have a huge banner poster coming, gonna have free posters and we have all there past albums on a display right now

as a fan, i am loving this album, but i would urge everyone to wait for a good rip

this could be the first pj album since vs where i can fully listen to the cd front to back without a problem, i think they really went for it and they finally got it

personal favs at the moment are life wasted, come back, severed hand and inside job

i think wws is middle of the road on the album and i really like wws

anyway cant wait to see it opening night

QUOTE(hinsey21 @ Apr 10 2006, 10:41 PM) [snapback]61691[/snapback]

QUOTE(A-Team @ Apr 10 2006, 05:35 PM) [snapback]61485[/snapback]

im actually really enjoying the new PJ. color me pleasantly surprised.

this new album is going to bring them back, i work at the largest retail music store in canada and the promoation pearl jam is getting for this album is fuckin serious shit, if you pre-order the album you get a code for a free bootleg, we have a huge banner poster coming, gonna have free posters and we have all there past albums on a display right now

as a fan, i am loving this album, but i would urge everyone to wait for a good rip

this could be the first pj album since vs where i can fully listen to the cd front to back without a problem, i think they really went for it and they finally got it

personal favs at the moment are life wasted, come back, severed hand and inside job

i think wws is middle of the road on the album and i really like wws

anyway cant wait to see it opening night

also i am intrested in what you think solace?

I'm sorry, did you just quote yourself?

hinsey21

Apr 10 2006, 10:15 PM

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