I say "Faded."

But that could change five minutes from now.

"When We Two Parted"

"Faded" and "When We Two Parted" are my top 2 I think

also good

"Be Sweet"
"Creep" cover
"Now You Know"
"Crime Scene, Pt. 1"
"Summer's Kiss"
"Crazy"

I gotta concur.
If there is a song that sums up everything that they were, its "Faded"


Now shut up and come to church.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq9Dq1I1yM4...=afghan%20whigs

do the Whigs have lots of awesome b-sides I need to hear?

Someone wanna throw up one or two?

Yep.



Worst song on Gentlemen.

EDIT: If I want another Whigs album, do I get Black Love? The general critical consensus seems to think so. Thoughts?
ANOTHER EDIT: Another good song is "My Cock Fucking Rules!"

It's "Fountain and Fairfax" dudes. Come on.

Saying "worst song on Gentlemen" is like saying "worst episode of V.I.P."--they're all fantastic.

Black Love, on the other hand.

People have actually never listened to an Afghan Whigs album. Fucking retards.

Speaking of the Afghan Whigs, at the end of one of their albums, there is a guy who says, "Brother Woodrow, lead us in the closing prayer." Can anyone tell me what that is from? I mean, the name of it, what it is, and where I can find it?

Back in college 15 or 16 years ago, I had the entire thing. It was - I assume - a comedy monologue of what sounded like a drunk preacher chastizing his parishioners on Easter Sunday on a variety of topics - only showing up to church on Easter, not giving money to the church, screwing around on their spouses, etc. At the end, he says, "Brother Woodrow, lead us in the closing prayer..." I'm not sure if the line from the song is the exact one from what i heard or a re-reading of the line by someone else, but it was definitely inspired by the monologue I heard.

Does anyone have a clue what I'm referring to? I should probably post this on an Afghan Whigs board, shouldn't I?

No one around here is going to tell you the truth -- Black Love is the best of the Whigs albums.

I think 1965 is actually probably a better album on the whole than Black Love (though the BL highlights are definitely the best things ever).

1965 is a fun listen, but at the end of the day, it's just way too sterile for my liking.

I don't listen to Dulli for sterility.

I'd place Black Love in my favorite 15 albums ever (Gentlemen in the top 3, 1965 somewhere in the top 30). What is amazing is how little attention Congregation gets. Really, the most underrated album of the 90s.

Black Love destroys Gentlemen (a modern classic iteself) if every concievable way.

Also, "Now You Know" is infuckingcredible. The part where it all builds to "tell-me-is-it-the-same....my sweetness....my everything" still gives me chills even now, and I got an advance copy of the record way back in 93.

No. No. No.

to me, Congregation just sorta feels like a Gentlemen warm-up.

And Gentlemen really is their best.

I think that is exactly why I enjoy listening to Congregation. The album is really solid, but just thinking of where the band goes next is unbelievable. One the biggest leaps forward I can think of.

their smiths cover sounds like everclear

If you're referring to "How Soon is Now," that's not the Whigs.

I forgot to contribute -- "Summer's Kiss" is the best Whigs song. It's like the Who, but not.

Do cd long boxes have any sort of collectible value? I have Congregation in a long box and haven't bothered opening it because it looks so damn good.

I think so. Put it on eBay for the hell of it. I sold Pearl Jams' Ten in the unopened long box on eBay for $70.

oh, who is that?

pretty sure i got it from here

Not sure who, but it's not the Whigs. It's mislabled...

But speaking of covers, I'll upload some Whigs covers shortly...

I'm pretty sure it's Everclear doing that cover.

As for my favorite Whigs song...obviously "My Curse", but "Fountain and Fairfax" comes a close second.

Aw, hell, there aren't many Whigs songs I don't love.

This:

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As for covers, I'd say their cover of The Clash's "Lost in the Supermarket."

Although there's a live cover of Prince's "if I Was Your Girlfriend" that I think is also spectacular.

This is probably my favorite, too, just for the way it incorporates "Stand By Me" and the drumbeat from "Train in Vain." It's almost a triple-cover.

OK, here are a bunch of Whigs covers, plus a couple other rarities. Yeah, they're mostly m4a files cause I grabbed 'em out of my iTunes. Convert 'em if you've got a problem with that...



Covers:
"If There's a Hell Below (We're All Gonna Go)" [live] - Sly and the Family Stone
"Revenge" - Patti Smith
"Nighttime" - Big Star
"Easily Persuaded" - Martha Reeves and the Vandellas
"Can't Get Enough of Your Love Babe" - Barry White
"Lost in the Supermarket" - The Clash
"Creep" - TLC
"If I Only Had a Heart" - Wizard of Oz
"Miss World" - Hole
"Moon River" - Henry Mancini/Johnny Mercer


Bonus:
"My Curse" - Dulli vocal
"What Jail is Like (The Morning Version)"
"Black Love" - Dulli solo, from the end credits to the film "Monument Avenue," later became "Love" on Twilight

Yeah, The Whigs in my opinion are pretty much my favorite band of the 90's.
Gentlemen (#1 all-time for me)>1965 (#11 all time)>> Black Love (#25 all time)>>Congregation (not ranked, but still damn good)>>>> Up in It (not that good)


Top five songs:
1) Bulletproof
2) My Curse
3) What Jail is Like
4) John the Baptist
5) Faded

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Not this argument again... This is like the ROF people vs. the Is This It people.

edit: and people who prefer Gentlemen over Black Love are invariably the same people who prefer Is This It over Room on Fire. Needless to say, these people are not to be trusted.

I have four CDs worth of B-Sides. Anyone want them?

I'd have to go with Gentlemen over Black Love, but they're both great albums. The Whigs were one of the best live acts back in the day. One of the highlights for me was them doing a cover of "Under Pressure" with Harold Chichester at the Double Door. I hated that place (still do), but that was worth dealing with all the bullshit connected to that place.

Best Whigs song? "Faded" is up there, but also "Debonair", "My Curse", "Fountain and Fairfax", and "Summer's Kiss".

QFT

Fuck a 'best', but this one is definitely my favourite, and I am very pleased and surprised (and pleasantly surprised, to boot) someone else saw fit to mention it:


Hells yeah. That chorus just speaks volumes to me. And Gentlemen is their third greatest album for my money.

Hmmm, I think Faded is one of their worst songs. I don't come to this band for overblown power ballads.

man, demon cleaner's the voice of dissent today, but he's been otm for the most part

i think faded is ok, but that fideo someone posted on the first page from the bizarre festival is like my second or third favorite youtube video. hilarious, moving, fantasmic.

cheap shot.

i'll agree that the Whigs are not the greatest when it comes to ballads. (the whole second half of Gentlemen is a snooze-fest.) But I think "Faded" is one where they got it stunningly right. Really, there's no way you can have any familiarity with the Whigs and NOT get this song.

So does that lump of coal in your chest ever beat?

Couldn't disagree more. Whigs have some great ballads, but Faded ain't one of them. It's a middle-of-the road obvious glove that doesn't fit Dulli at all. It's the kind of bombastically bluesy number that Chris Cornell might come up with on an off-day - but with bad singing. I feel like I should be holding a lighter aloft when I listen to it.

When We Two Parted, to cite one other ballad, is streaks ahead.

I don't come to the Whigs for subtlety.

Neither did Greg Dulli, for that matter.

"If There's a Hell Below (We're All Gonna Go)" is a Curtis Mayfield song.

someone please up gentlemen, haven't heard it for years

No, not really. Whigs ballads are pretty amazing, such as The SLide Song, 66, Step Into the Light, My Curse....
And to me, the first half of Gentlemen may be the part that blew me away intitially, but damn the four final songs are pretty much jaw-droppingly good. So much depth is added with the I Keep Coming Back and Brother Woodrow. What I love is that the one realy positive song (or at least the one that does not tear love apart), is the one not penned by Dulli.

Yeah, I used to only really like the first five or so songs, but I started listening to the album again a few months ago and I've grown to really love the whole album. "My Curse" just tears me apart inside. Oddly enough, when I first heard the album, one of the only songs that really grabbed me (besides the first few) was "Brother Woodrow." I really love Dulli's guitar playing on the record, and I also love mellotron, and I sort of like cello. Now, a combination of all three? Let's just say I "enjoy" it. A lot. Shit. It's so cool! Remember the "instrumentals" thread from a while back? Someone should have posted that.

Please Please! Yes! Yes!

I'll start upping them this evening then.

46 hours and I managed to stay out of this thread. I think that's a record for me.

"Faded" is without a doubt my favorite Whigs tune. I can't believe the dissing of this track; to me it's a perfect example of what the Whigs were about except in ballad form.

I know that most people consider “Gentlemen” their masterpiece and while I do think it’s an amazing record “Black Love” is by far my favorite. That one just gets under my skin and has since the first time I heard it all those years ago. Damn, I miss that band.

My Top 5 Afghan Whigs tunes

1. Faded
2. Bulletproof
3. Uptown Again
4. Debonair
5. Crime Scene Pt.1

Debonair is what got me into them. Still my fav.

Debonair
Bulletproof
John the Baptist
Conjure Me
Gentlemen

Well, Faded was Dulli's attempt at making his own Purple Rain, or at least he's mentioned that's what inspired him.

In a way, you can say that it's derivative, but I still love that song. Although I prefer Summer's Kiss over it, and always felt that SK should've been the closer on that disc.

Three pages and no mention of 'Step Into The Light'. Careless. The best song on Black Love.