"Think I'm scared of girls well maybe" part reminds me of Good Dr. Bill in middle school.
....

AND IT GOES DOWN EVERY NIGHT

Thread is outdated as fuck as I am listening to Swervedriver nowwww

Welcome to Nick's world.

"Think I'm scared of girls, well maybe" reminds me of Dinosaur Jr. He has a Mascis drawl for a second.

your avatar looks like Spence.



afghan whigs make me think of many frustrating nights being stuck iin rufus' car

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND
WHEN I TRIED AS HARD AS
ANYONE CAN

EACH NIGHT I DREAM
I WAKE UP AND SCREAM
OWWWW BABY
THAT I LOVE YOU, WOMAN!!!!!
I LOOOOVE YOOOOUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH BABY
I REALIZE I TREATED YOU WRONG
BUT I'M SO SORRY
LET ME COME BACK WHERE I BELONG

YOU SEE I'M YOUR FOOOOOOLLLLL
I LOST MY COOOOOOOOLLL
OOOOWWWWWWWWWW BABY!!!!!
I LOVE YOU, WOMAN!!!!!!!!!
I LOOOOOVEEEEYOUOUUUUU!UU!!??!?!?

Okay, I'm done with this.

NOW I'M OKAY
BUT IN TIME I FIND I'M
STUCK
'CAUSE SHE WANTS LOVE
AND I STILL WANNA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUC...

...KH!

it's sad how few good bands you'd listen to if it wasn't for me, Dan

I'm loling.

Just imagine how frustrating they were for Rufus.

Can somebody upload the Dulli sung version of "My Curse," please?

hey, remember when we were talking about our favorite Whigs songs and I mentioned "Now You Know" and you said it was your least favorite song on the album and I wondered "huh, why does Paves dislike this awesome song"

Yeah, I actually meant "My Curse".

Awesome bit of clarification.

Yeah, I definitely don't dislike "My Curse" at all. I was actually just playing that on this here acoustic guitar a few minutes ago. That and "I Keep Coming Back" [POST EDIT: I MEANT TO SAY "WHEN WE TWO PARTED"!!!!! "I KEEP COMING BACK" IS ALSO AMAZING, THOUGH] are probably my favorite songs on Gentlemen.

The best part of "Now You Know" is the last two seconds. The "NOW IT'S THROUGH" part.

yeah, those are probably the three best songs on the album. "What Jail is Like" is great too (even though I significantly doubt whatever Dulli was going through when he wrote the song accurately reflects the feeling of lawful imprisonment) and "Brother Woodrow" / "Closing Prayer" is severely underrated.

Oddly enough, "Brother Woodrow/Closing Prayer" was actually the song that made the biggest impression on me the first time I listened to the album. Beautiful little instrumental right there. I enjoy the sounds of a mellotron, as well as those of a cello, in addition to the guitar playing of one Mr. Greg Dulli. A combination of all three is just delightful beyond belief.

this thread is useless without Black Love discussion.

hey, I listened to that album recently. Middle of it still fucking sucks. So unfortunate.

I agree, it's an amazing instrumental. And also the song that kept me listening to this album (Dulli took awhile to get used to) until the rest of it seeped into my subconscience.

My Curse is a perpetual favorite, but Fountain and Fairfax is just phenomenal. Aw hell, I can't find a weak spot on the whole damn album.

This was probably the first album I could play back note-for-note, lyric-for-lyric in my head. Freakin' haunts me sometimes.

But, I definitely have to be in the mood to listen to the whole thing. If I were to introduce a newbie to the Whigs, I'd probably hand 'em Black Love first.

I like the way you roll Ronald Reagan.

Remember when Sickpup called the second half of Gentlemen a "snooze-fest"?

you're crazy. gentlemen has no legs. that album runs out of gas halfway through.

at the halfway mark, black love throws more gas on the fire.

Oh shit.

oh shit, i just said it again.

C'mon bro. "My Curse," "Now You Know," and "I Keep Coming Back" is an almost unfuckwitable 2nd half. Black Love is great and all, but c'mon bro.

bro'ing or no bro'ing, that's the damn truth.

The truth is a fucking lie.

i'll see your lies and raise you one very man-ish woman.

If I'm on your mind again
You must be trippin' on some of that
Voodoo I been throwin' down

Omerta is the shit. God, I love that song. Especially the way it segues into The Vampire Lanios.

Argument could go either way, really.

one day the black love people are going to take on the gentlemen people in a "beat it" style throwdown.

NO THEY'RE NOT!!!


Edit: I like how this band is better than everyone else's favorite band.

I'm amused by the fact that Dan is the one who started this thread.

Major LOL @ the AMG picks for that album ("My Enemy," "Going to Town" and "Honky's Ladder"). The first is the only slightly defendable choice.

Sickpup, you actually like "Night By Candlelight" and "Bulletproof"?

do i like "bulletproof?"

it's one of the best songs on the album.

ask god for a rebate on your ears when you get a chance.

You don't even like "Going to Town"? Your taste in Whigs is questionable at best.

get your stroll on

yeah, Bill pretty much just dimissed himself from this conversation. I shouldn't have even bothered replying.

Every time I dream about you, baby
With your hands all over me
I never forget anything
Don't forget that I'm asleep

Bulletproof is a solid track.

The entire Black Love album has a classic feel to it.

Marcy Mays is the only good thing about "My Curse". I don't know why Scrawl isn't held in massively high regard. I should y'all send the thing some shit.

i posted some Scrawl back in the day. good shit.

God, I love this album.

Masterpiece.

I feel like whenever I've had a significant moment occur in my life, Gentlemen has been played soon afterwards.

I assume, then, by "significant moment" you mean "a woman tore my heart out and stomped on it with her dangerously high heels."

My intense love for this album is somewhat baffling. Dan was talking to me on AIM and was like, "You had Gentlemen really high on your all-time list. I mean, it's awesome, but you just had that shit so high." There's just something about this record... the lyrics are a huge thing here, the words coupled with Dulli's delivery... very adult, you know? You imagine him being sensitive and romantic, but also violent and pissed off, the kind of balance that so many young men want to have apply to themselves. Simultaneously tear jerkin' and beer drinkin'. Lots of young people like stuff like In The Aeroplane Over The Sea and Joy Division because there's a lot of lyrical depth and shit, and they want to identify with it so badly, really project themselves as these deep individuals who feel the emotions in the songs. And they might be full of shit, but there might actually be some truth there. That's how I feel about Gentlemen. There's a lot of emotion in this music, and I might not properly "identify" with it, but I completely see where Dulli is coming from (or could conceivably be coming from.) It was when I started to really see those layers that I started to really love the album. Afghan Whigs... I couldn't really tell you anything about them, except that the singer/guitarist is Greg Dulli and that they were in Beautiful Girls and my english teacher used to be in a garage punk band called Snyders of Berlin whose members were friends with the Whigs right before they got signed to Sub Pop, but the Snyders didn't know what Sub Pop was and so they ended up ultimately failing as a band because they were so drunk and stupid. I still haven't heard Black Love. Or Congregation. But I know this album. Better than almost any other album. I can't listen to one song without hearing all of the other songs, even if they're played out of order. I'm glad that I have the relationship with this album that I do.

I put it on my friend's iPod a while back and he said that he listened to it and thought that it was "kind of boring." And on one end, I just wanted to punch him in the face for not being able to comprehend this music that is such a huge part of me. But at the same time, I realized that I was the same way once. And when you consider the music on the album, it makes sense that it would initially come off as little more than "boring guitar rock." But somehow it all works (and I've learned to really appreciate Dulli's guitarwork over time.) This is indie rock at its most difficultly muscular, just a ridiculously masculine sound that is complemented perfectly by the lyrics, and it all makes Gentlemen essentially the Ultimate Cock Rock Album. Why the hell is Music Gurl a fan of this band???

What haven't you listened to Black Love?!?!

If I do a Top 100 albums Gentlemen will be #1 and Black Love probably not too far behind. In fact, Twilight as Played by the Twilight Singers would be in the top 25-30.

I love Gentlemen.
I was working at the Coconuts on So Wabash when it came out and I begged my manager to let me have it a weekbefore the release date.
One of my favorite records ever.

However.......Black Love is still a million times better.

Black Love is good, but I just prefer the overall mood of Gentlemen, it's more consistently good to my ears, it has one of the best stage-setting opening tracks of all-time and it has more "moments" for me. I just get so excited listening to that record. I still get excited when Dulli says "NOW...", before things kick in on the title track. There's that instrumental section about halfway into "Fountain and Fairfax" that's just so goddamn triumphant-sounding and made even more so, by the fact that most of that song and album is so dark and angry.

Did any of you get the What Jail is Like EP?
It came out like 6 months after Gentlemen and its awesome.
Has live covers of "Dark End of the Street" and some other stuff I cant quite recall.


Oh wait, its up on iTunes....
1. What Jail is Like
2. Mr Superlove
3. Dark End of the Street
4. Little Girl Blue
5. What Jail is Like (Live)
6. Now You Know (Live)

Gotta love iTunes for resurrecting alot of great EPs.
I may have to rebuy this. havent seen my CD copy in YEARS.

Yeah, that's a good companion to Uptown Avondale. The Black Love singles/EPs have some great covers, too.

Bob... re-up, please: