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Sickpup
you see the question. now cast your vote.
williamtell
oh god, atdi.

http://youtube.com/w/At-The-Drive-In-Arc-A...he%20drive%20in
Undercooked Sausage
Oh, this is a fucking slaughter. ATDI by a fucking mile.
HewlettsDaughter
at the drive in.

it would give me a chance to see them after they cancelled that fucking metro show eons ago.
The Luscious Phil
the response to this poll is pretty much the most unexpected thing i have seen on this board.


Today>>>>>>>>>The complete works of At the Drive-in
petey
QUOTE(Phil @ Feb 6 2006, 07:39 PM) [snapback]12998[/snapback]

the response to this poll is pretty much the most unexpected thing i have seen on this board.
Today>>>>>>>>>The complete works of At the Drive-in


silly
Undercooked Sausage
Incredibly.
Sickpup
QUOTE(Phil @ Feb 6 2006, 08:39 PM) [snapback]12998[/snapback]

Today>>>>>>>>>The complete works of At the Drive-in


i'd put you ignore but that's more effort than you deserve.
Midnite_Vulture
Sorry guys, I think Phil may have a point. "Today" is one of the greatest songs of the 90's, and what, ATDI had only one album really worth buying, right? But regardless of that, I've always wanted to see ATDI live, and I would rather much seem them reunite because they had yet to reach their peak.
kinetic android
What brought this about? Did someone say an ATDI reunion was possible? I'd see it only because it would bring a momentary pause to The fucking Mars Volta...
Wolfgang
QUOTE(Hewletts Daughter @ Feb 6 2006, 07:28 PM) [snapback]12989[/snapback]

at the drive in.

it would give me a chance to see them after they cancelled that fucking metro show eons ago.


i'm one of the huge pumpkins fans on this board but man, i'm with atdi on this one.
i had tickets to their lawrence, kansas show on that doomed tour also. i think they had about 6 or 7 shows left on that tour. i just found a 3-dvd set of atdi at my favorite record store for $40! i think i'm gonna' get it when i get my next paycheck so i'm not telling you suckas where the store's at.
Undercooked Sausage
QUOTE(Midnite_Vulture @ Feb 6 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]13007[/snapback]

Sorry guys, I think Phil may have a point. "Today" is one of the greatest songs of the 90's

Strange. I like the pumpkins and I never found it to be anything really special.
The Luscious Phil
QUOTE(Lyndon Johnson @ Feb 6 2006, 09:50 PM) [snapback]13006[/snapback]

i'd put you ignore but that's more effort than you deserve.

ruh-oh.
Demon_Cleaner
QUOTE(williamtell @ Feb 7 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]12975[/snapback]


Is Jim's guitar not plugged in there? Or have I lost all my hearing in the middle range?


edit: oh yeah, I think it makes a noise when he drops it on the ground at the end. Mixing all wrong on that anyway...
More Drama
QUOTE(Midnite_Vulture @ Feb 6 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]13007[/snapback]

ATDI had only one album really worth buying, right?


Well, I certainly don't own any Pumpkins albums.
HewlettsDaughter
QUOTE(Wolfgang @ Feb 6 2006, 07:54 PM) [snapback]13012[/snapback]

i'm one of the huge pumpkins fans on this board but man, i'm with atdi on this one.
i had tickets to their lawrence, kansas show on that doomed tour also. i think they had about 6 or 7 shows left on that tour. i just found a 3-dvd set of atdi at my favorite record store for $40! i think i'm gonna' get it when i get my next paycheck so i'm not telling you suckas where the store's at.


Dude, once you buy it will you tell me where it's at? or can you make some burnt dvd's? If so, I can forward you some dvd's and a few bucks. Everyone loves getting bucks!
Some Girl
i'd give my left tit for an at the drive-in reunion.

fucking don't even put their name under sp.
beansimpson
QUOTE(Some Girl @ Feb 6 2006, 08:56 PM) [snapback]13049[/snapback]

i'd give my left tit for an at-the drive in reunion.

fucking don't even put their name under sp.

IPB ImageI was almost at Yancy-avatar hair again (Pretty much 'Jim' from the U.S. office, last hair cut could have had me stand in for the pic) and just got it cut today. I could have given that!

Ok, so now we need some other body parts.
Sickpup
QUOTE(Some Girl @ Feb 6 2006, 09:56 PM) [snapback]13049[/snapback]

i'd give my left tit for an at-the drive in reunion.

fucking don't even put their name under sp.


i figured a touch of courtesy would be appropriate before subjecting them to an absolute trouncing... yet again.
themeparkexperience
I think a better subheading should be: Which reunion will never happen?

That belongs to ATDI
issachar
At the Drive In.. which as has been said here .... ain't gonna happen.
HewlettsDaughter
Yeah, all hope of an ATDI reunion is pretty much dead. So we are left with the Mars Volta....
Demon_Cleaner
Hey, Mars Volta has two ATDI members, and Sparta has 3.

Which is as much as a Smashing Pumpkins "reunion" will ever get. It's Smashing Pumpkins only because one guy owns the name. No better than Axl Rose holding onto the GNR title.
Raj (Noble Con)
QUOTE(Midnite_Vulture @ Feb 6 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]13007[/snapback]

Sorry guys, I think Phil may have a point. "Today" is one of the greatest songs of the 90's, and what, ATDI had only one album really worth buying, right? But regardless of that, I've always wanted to see ATDI live, and I would rather much seem them reunite because they had yet to reach their peak.

A. Today is not one of the best songs of the 90s.
B. At the Drive-In have, at minimum, three albums worth buying.
C. Even if Today was some kind of fantastic song, saying it could outweigh another band's catalog is categorically kind of silly. Apples and oranges.



Both these bands ended when they should have ended. Their stories were complete. The only time a band should reform is if it's going to be a Wire situation, where they're actually intending to make music that stands up to their prime stuff.
The Good Dr Bill
yeah, "Today" sorta sucks.
Sickpup
QUOTE(Axel F. Scott Fitzgerald @ Feb 6 2006, 11:03 PM) [snapback]13099[/snapback]

yeah, "Today" sorta sucks.


nah, it just clearly isn't so great as to outweigh ATDI's entire catalogue.
The Good Dr Bill
"1979" might be though. I dunno, I only know "One-Armed Scissor" from ATDI. I assume they have more good stuff where that comes from.
Some Girl
aww, i kinda like 'today' and the weird- colored ice cream truck video.

god, remember when mars volta were exciting? well, at least the first two tracks on that debut album.

this thread depresses me.
solace
QUOTE(Hewletts Daughter @ Feb 6 2006, 07:28 PM) [snapback]12989[/snapback]

at the drive in.

it would give me a chance to see them after they cancelled that fucking metro show eons ago.

Riviera wink.gif

i still have my 2 ticket stubs. luckily i did see them once, on Halloween in 1999 opening for The Get Up Kids (i know right?). it was one of the best shows i'd seen in at LEAST 5 years at the time, maybe more.

prior to the Riv show i had tickets to their First Ave show that previous December but was so sick the night of the show i couldn't even get out of bed. if i'd known it woulda been my last chance to see them i woulda taken an ambulance if need be.

QUOTE(Midnite_Vulture @ Feb 6 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]13007[/snapback]

Sorry guys, I think Phil may have a point. "Today" is one of the greatest songs of the 90's, and what, ATDI had only one album really worth buying, right? But regardless of that, I've always wanted to see ATDI live, and I would rather much seem them reunite because they had yet to reach their peak.

nah, i'd say all but maybe Alfaro Vive, Carajo! and Hell Paso i love. in fact In/Casino/Out is my fave ATDI album, with ROC a VERY close second (it's produced so much better as well).
Some Girl
p.s. unterberger, i'll send you the vaya ep later. you need to hear that if you want more atdi.
Ben
Judging from her recent reactions to The YYY's and Mars Volta, I'd say Some Girl is headed for a QUARTERLIFE CRISIS.
Some Girl
you have no idea.
Sickpup
yeah, Vaya is clearly better than In/Casino/Out.
solace
Vaya is good, bit more Dub than i like tho, reminds me of TMV's first EP now in retrospect
Undercooked Sausage
It's like Relationship of Command > Vaya > In/Casino/Out >> Acrobatic Tenement > Gran Orgo for me. Shit, if anyone needs any ATDI, i even have their like, 94 demos and shit.
Wilcoinator
Why did they break up? I assume tensions, but any circumstances that are fascinating/ugly?
themeparkexperience
QUOTE(Demon_Cleaner @ Feb 6 2006, 09:33 PM) [snapback]13069[/snapback]

Hey, Mars Volta has two ATDI members, and Sparta has 3.



The Mars Volta now features Paul Hinojos (former ATDI bassist/Sparta guitarist) as its "sound manipulator."

So, TMV has three ATDI members and Sparta has two.
solace
QUOTE(Wilcoinator @ Feb 6 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]13132[/snapback]

Why did they break up? I assume tensions, but any circumstances that are fascinating/ugly?

both sides had their fair share of drug problems at the time as well, which didn't help. their music post ATDI should tell you which side was into the heavier stuff...
themeparkexperience
QUOTE(Wilcoinator @ Feb 6 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]13132[/snapback]

Why did they break up? I assume tensions, but any circumstances that are fascinating/ugly?


Let's look at the facts:

1. The band had a pact that if any one of its members quit, that was the end of the band.
2. Omar and Cedric quit ATDI just Jim was getting married. Their set at the reception was ATDI's last show.
3. In the press, Omar and Cedric have criticized ATDI's back catalog along with Sparta's decision to go to a major so soon after forming.

Band break-ups are never really cut and dry. There may be more than what we've seen in the press, but ultimately, they aren't together anymore and they won't reunite.
The Luscious Phil
QUOTE(Lyndon Johnson @ Feb 7 2006, 12:05 AM) [snapback]13102[/snapback]

nah, it just clearly isn't so great as to outweigh ATDI's entire catalogue.

i guess i can't really defend my original statement as much as say that without hearing "Today" my love for music would probably not have developed as early or as strongly as it did. "Today" was the first song i heard and was like "I really need this album."

while i like ATDI, nothing they ever did can compare to the emotional reaction i have when I hear Today. I still get goosebumps 13 years later.

Raj (Noble Con)
QUOTE(solace @ Feb 6 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]13107[/snapback]

Riviera wink.gif

i still have my 2 ticket stubs. luckily i did see them once, on Halloween in 1999 opening for The Get Up Kids (i know right?). it was one of the best shows i'd seen in at LEAST 5 years at the time, maybe more.

prior to the Riv show i had tickets to their First Ave show that previous December but was so sick the night of the show i couldn't even get out of bed. if i'd known it woulda been my last chance to see them i woulda taken an ambulance if need be.
nah, i'd say all but maybe Alfaro Vive, Carajo! and Hell Paso i love. in fact In/Casino/Out is my fave ATDI album, with ROC a VERY close second (it's produced so much better as well).

Yeah, I/C/O is definitely the best. Pretty much without flaw (well, arguably "A Devil Among the Taylors," but I wouldn't cut it if I could).
They were pretty great during that Get Up Kids tour, I saw them twice... which meant seeing the GUKs stink it up twice. That was when the Kids were trying to get famous. They must have been pissed when Jimmy Eat World stole their idea.
I was lucky enough to see ATDI during the I/C/O tour and that was easily one of the... probably five best shows I've ever seen. Real eye-opener back whenever that was.
Rad Monkey
QUOTE(Some Girl @ Feb 6 2006, 10:11 PM) [snapback]13106[/snapback]

aww, i kinda like 'today' and the weird colored ice cream truck video.

god, remember when mars volta were exciting? well, at least the first two tracks on that album.

this thread depresses me.


I love both Vaya and Trumulant. In fact, it's been awhile since listened to mars volta. I didn't really dig Frances the Mute, except for Viaquez.

QUOTE(Phil @ Feb 6 2006, 11:16 PM) [snapback]13143[/snapback]

i guess i can't really defend my original statement as much as say that without hearing "Today" my love for music would probably not have developed as early or as strongly as it did. "Today" was the first song i heard and was like "I really need this album."

while i like ATDI, nothing they ever did can compare to the emotional reaction i have when I hear Today. I still get goosebumps 13 years later.


I think this maybe a generational thing, becausethe best part about ATDI for me was seeing a bunch of skinny little hispanic guys rock out, which as a skinny, still awkward hispanic kid was nice. It was one of those bands that were mine, not that they were the greatest band ever. But their music is associated with my adolescence and I never got to see them live.
Some Girl
;) the half- latin part of me agrees.
velocity
QUOTE(Hewletts Daughter @ Feb 6 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]13068[/snapback]

Yeah, all hope of an ATDI reunion is pretty much dead. So we are left with the Mars Volta....

...and Sparta, damnit! Sparta.
solace
QUOTE(velocity @ Feb 7 2006, 12:13 AM) [snapback]13177[/snapback]

...and Sparta, damnit! Sparta.

i actually LOVED Wiretap, but Porcelain didn't do much for me at all sadly. hoping for good things from this upcoming one, but who knows.
The Good Dr Bill
"Breaking the Broken" is one of my favorite rock singles of the decade.
solace
that is a good track, but just didn't quite dive into the album like i did w/ Wiretap for some reason.
Wolfgang
QUOTE(Wilcoinator @ Feb 6 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]13132[/snapback]

Why did they break up? I assume tensions, but any circumstances that are fascinating/ugly?



No joke, a friend of mine started "dating" cedric when mars volta came through kansas on that first album. She went out to LA after that tour for a week, came back and told us they were doing a butt load of H. Said she'd be surprised if they made another album, then they made Frances the Mute....um.................
velocity
QUOTE(solace @ Feb 6 2006, 10:25 PM) [snapback]13189[/snapback]

that is a good track, but just didn't quite dive into the album like i did w/ Wiretap for some reason.

I'll agree, it took awhile for Porcelain to grab me. I skip tracks 1, 2 & 4 and the rest of the album flows really well.
Undercooked Sausage
Fun fact: I secretly model my hair after cedric bixler.
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