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So far, so good.



Let us know how it is when you're done with it. I read Moneyball in July and loved it.


Really, I have no idea why I'm enjoying this book so much. I expected to skim through it and be like, "baseball... baseball... baseball... words... blah.... stats.... zzz....", but nothing like that has happened.
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Ben
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How long before Tony responds!
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When did you get yours?
I want to say about a week and a half ago?
Our copy just showed up last night. WTF?
WOW. I don't know what would cause that. However, on the topic of McSweeneys, that was the first collection that I read from cover to cover, and I'd give it about three stars. For whatever reason, well, the teaser for that new apocalyptic book, I ended up joining the McSweeney's book club, and I already am a Wholphin subscriber.

My question is, based on the most recent McSweeney's short story collection and the McSweeney's book club's End of I, if there is a new writing style that has emerged that is reflected in those, whatever comes after post-post-modern?
Ben
Is there still love in the hood for Dave Eggers? Frankly, I tired of his crew pretty quickly. They seem like well meaning guys, but they don't move me.
Andyroo
I've still got love for Eggers, but I only read A Heartbreaking Work about two years ago. I also liked How We Are Hungry, but I've yet to be able to make a serious dent in You Shall Know Our Velocity!

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In a heartrending and astonishing novel, Eggers illuminates the history of the civil war in Sudan through the eyes of Valentino Achak Deng, a refugee now living in the United States. We follow his life as he's driven from his home as a boy and walks, with thousands of orphans, to Ethiopia, where he finds safety — for a time. Valentino's travels, truly Biblical in scope, bring him in contact with government soldiers, janjaweed-like militias, liberation rebels, hyenas and lions, disease and starvation — and a string of unexpected romances. Ultimately, Valentino finds safety in Kenya and, just after the millennium, is finally resettled in the United States, from where this novel is narrated. In this book, written with expansive humanity and surprising humor, we come to understand the nature of the conflicts in Sudan, the refugee experience in America, the dreams of the Dinka people, and the challenge one indomitable man faces in a world collapsing around him.


This is coming out shortly. I'm not terribly interested in the concept, but I'll probably give it a shot.
Ben
The loyalty these guys inspire impresses me. They've put out so much mediocre stuff I expect people to, ya know, try something else.

New one sounds like that JSF debut relocated to Sudan.
Andyroo
I haven't really gotten into the McSweeney's "crew," just Eggers. I did get the "Better of McSweeney's" collection for Christmas... read two or three essays, then put it to the bottom of my reading stack. Just all over the place and not all terribly interesting.

Hoping to finish "Too Much, Too Late" this week and move onto this:

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No clue what to expect, but one of my friends highly recommended it to me. I'll probably also check out that Numbers Game book that was discussed in here. Sounds interesting from what I've read about it. Seems like a logical progression after reading Moneyball.
NumberTenOx
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As stated, this is a solid bit of work. I am annoyed, though. I dislike accounts that "put you in the room". They're too close to fiction. "Jones smiled." Did he really?...

Whenever I get fed up, I switch to...

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Never read any of his stuff. There are several Blue Aeroplanes songs that use Auden's ideas and structure for verse; interesting to see how those lyrics developed. Anyway, I don't read poetry easily-- it requires a lot of concentration for some reason.

Next up on deck:

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Been looking forward to reading this for some time.
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I haven't really gotten into the McSweeney's "crew," just Eggers. I did get the "Better of McSweeney's" collection for Christmas... read two or three essays, then put it to the bottom of my reading stack. Just all over the place and not all terribly interesting.

Hoping to finish "Too Much, Too Late" this week and move onto this:

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No clue what to expect, but one of my friends highly recommended it to me. I'll probably also check out that Numbers Game book that was discussed in here. Sounds interesting from what I've read about it. Seems like a logical progression after reading Moneyball.

tried to read it. couldn't. but loved wind up bird cronicles
without_opinion
you shall know our velocity was actually my favorite of the 3 main eggers works. How We Are Hungry was really hit/miss for me, with more misses than hits.
A Heartbreaking Work was quite good, but i didn't relate to it as much as I did YSKOV.

on the subject of mcsweeneys -- i did read the first 15 pages or so of "The Children's Hospital" online the other day and that looks like a good one. Tops on my list of books they've published is Salvador Plascencia's "People of Paper" -- fascinating & tragic.

but i'm now reading...a book i came across after Ben posted a bunch of Verilyn Klinkenborg's writing over a year ago.

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The author spends a considerable amount of time with relatives in Iowa and acquaintances in Montana simply making hay. It's not exciting stuff, but the clarity & in-depth descriptions of the people and their way of life is great stuff. it's a good escape from city life...or as ben put it when i asked him if he had read it, "Nope. I think it's rural porn for city folk"
Ben
haha. That's so wild that somebody else reads Verlyn! He's like E.B. White, except a mellow ass Iowan. Did you ever seen the 500 word essay he wrote in the Times just about the calm pleasures of unwrapping a new piece of software for your computer? Unbelievable. How did that get in the newspaper?

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April 29, 2005
Editorial Observer; The Strange Pleasure of Upgrading Software
By VERLYN KLINKENBORG

Like many Apple computer users, I'm in a pleasant state of expectation. I've ordered Apple's updated operating system, but it hasn't yet arrived. I have housecleaning to do before I can install it: deleting dead programs in my applications folder, for instance, and backing up my hard drive. Then will come the almost visceral pleasure of installing new software. This is one of the most pleasant tasks I know, vastly easier than straightening up the barn or taking the truck in for service.

Somewhere at home I have the floppy disks of many previous upgrades, including versions of MS-DOS -- the first Microsoft operating system -- that date from the early 1980's. They are reminders of how strange the idea of software seemed to me at the time. It did not occur to me then that such strangeness was part of living in a hardware world.

The only way to upgrade the refrigerator or the vacuum cleaner is to buy a new one. I can think of nothing I owned at the time that was capable of taking in new instructions and using them to improve its operation substantially. The only thing that could do so was not a machine at all. It was a human being.

There have been some profoundly ungratifying upgrades, of course. That's why computer experts recommend backing up your hard drive before you upgrade, so you can return to a prior state if you have to. There's nothing quite like that in the hardware world either. There's something especially winning about the idea of taking a snapshot of the present so you can return to it if the future doesn't work out the way you want it to.

Until a few years ago, the release of a new version of Windows would cause a splendid national frenzy. Millions and millions of units were wrapped and shipped and received with a nervous excitement. It was, in those days before huge multiplayer online games, the closest possible thing to a collective computer experience. And then the fun went out of it, after too many versions, too many software patches in rapid succession and, worst of all, the uneasy sense that an upgrade could turn into a can of worms.

Apple has not been perfect either, its imperfections amplified by a customer base as curmudgeonly as it is fanatical. But to me, coming from that other world, upgrading Apple software feels almost redemptive.

When Tiger comes, I'll open the shipping box and tear off the shrink-wrap. But then I'll have to remember that inside the box, there will be only a disk or two. (The days of printed manuals are long gone.) I'll slip the disk into my computer, agree to the provisions of a contract I haven't really read and then sit back, waiting until the moment I can restart my computer and see what these pristine new instructions contain.
Here's V getting real heavy about email.
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January 29, 2006
Editorial Observer; 'No Messages on This Server,' and Other Lessons of Our Time
By VERLYN KLINKENBORG

I do not own a BlackBerry or a pager. I don't chat or instant-message or text-message. My cellphone could connect to the Web if I let it, but I don't. I don't gamble on the Internet nor do I game on it (or on any other electronic device). And yet I'm starting to twitch.

I have three everyday telephone numbers, not counting Skype and a calling card, and two fax numbers. I have six working e-mail addresses, as well as a few no longer in use. A couple of weeks ago I started writing a blog for The Times. Part of my job, as a blogger, is to read and approve the publication of readers' comments. That is the equivalent of another form of e-mail. There are probably half a dozen Really Simple Syndication tools on my computer, and one or another of them is always unfurling the latest ribbon of news in the background. It is astonishing how old the morning's headlines seem by evening.

Back in the dial-up days, computer users made brief forays onto a bulletin board or some outpost of the primitive Internet, all the while clocking connection time in order to keep costs down. Going online was like driving a Stanley Steamer -- better for scaring horses and wowing the youth than for long-distance hauling. There was always a slightly neurotic edge to it. You could feel the seconds ticking away while nothing happened. But nowadays turning on the computer is synonymous with being online. Who turns the computer off? It's rarely worth severing that digital link. For some of us, the computer has become less and less a place to work and more and more a place to await messages from the ether, like hopeful spiritualists.

I thought I was a fairly temperate user of computers. But in the past year or so I have become addicted to e-mail. I confess it. You probably know the signs. Do you tell your e-mail program to check for messages automatically every two minutes -- and then disbelieve it when it comes up empty? Have you learned to hesitate before answering a new message so it doesn't look as though you were hunched over the keyboard, waiting? Do you secretly think of lunch as a time for your inbox to fill up? But the clearest sign of e-mail addiction is simply to ask yourself, what is the longest you've gone without checking your e-mail in the past two months? Anything longer than a broken night's sleep is good.

I blame my e-mail addiction, in part, on the United States Postal Service. Seeing the mail lady pull up to our rural mailbox in her red station wagon with the flashing amber light on top is one of the high points of my day, whether there is anything ''good'' in the mail or not. (The ''goodness'' of mail is another question entirely.) When you think about it, the postal system is a remarkable thing, even in this new universe of instant-delivery systems. Its genius is this: The mail comes only once a day. All that expectation gathered into a single visit! And once-a-day-ness is built right into the system. I try to imagine the mail lady bringing every piece of mail to our mailbox as she gets it. In fact, that's exactly what she does, because the mail shows up only once a day at the local post office.

I suppose I could tell my e-mail program to check for mail on a postal schedule -- once a day -- although minutes are the only intervals the software understands. But that would defeat the logic of e-mail, which is meant to arrive seriatim -- hence, its addictive punch. The principle of snail mail is infrequency; the principle of e-mail is frequency. The real question is, what is the frequency for?

I think of e-mail as a continuing psychology experiment that studies the effect on humans of abrupt, frequently repeated stimuli -- often pleasurable, sometimes not, but always with the positive charge that comes from seeing new mail in the inbox. So far, the experiment has revealed, in me, the synaptic responses of a squirrel. It is a truism of our time that we now have shorter attention spans than ever before. I don't think that is true. What we have now are electronic media that can pulse at the actual rate of human thought. We have the distinct discomfort of seeing our neural pace reflected in the electronic world around us.

Amid all that is wasteful, distracting, irrelevant and downright evil about e-mail, there is also this. We carry dozens of people, sometimes hundreds, around with us in our heads. They pass in and out of our thoughts as quickly as thought itself. E-mail is a way to gather these people -- so many of them scattered across the globe -- into the immediacy of our lives in a way that makes even a phone call feel highly formalized. It is the nearness of e-mail, the conversations it creates, that is addicting as much as the minute-by-minute stimuli. I try to remember that when I am getting twitchy, when I start wondering whether the mail server is down again. I tell myself that I'm just listening for a chorus of voices, a chorus of friends.
Freddie Freelance
I'm currently using this as a beer coaster:

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I'm glad I paid less than a Dollar for it at the Sally Anne.
Vivian Darkbloom
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Sort of deserves some of the hype it's getting, I suppose, though I don't agree with Franzen, who quips on the dust jacket that "beneath the foam of this exuberant debut is a dark, strong drink." At best, it's a light spritzer with affectations.

If you haven't heard, it's kind of like a Nancy Drew mystery if written by Dave Eggers trying to give tribute to Nabokov. Those familiar with the provenance of my handle will appreciate that I think only Nabokov does Nabokov well, but this one is fun and breezy. Kind of Ghost World meets The O.C..

Much ink has been spilled by envious writers who think she only got the contract with Viking because she's so hot. Defintely better looking than Nabokov, I'll give the bloggers that much...

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It took me awhile to fall in love with the desert out here but I did. Edward Abbey helped that along. This is proving to be the perfect coda for my last weeks and months in northern Nevada.
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It took me awhile to fall in love with the desert out here but I did. Edward Abbey helped that along. This is proving to be the perfect coda for my last weeks and months in northern Nevada.


Fucking LOOOOOOOVE this book. I re-read it every year during my pilgrimage to Utah, sometimes aloud. The old Moon Eye chapter is probably one of the greatest pieces of "nature" writing ever penned.
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It took me awhile to fall in love with the desert out here but I did. Edward Abbey helped that along. This is proving to be the perfect coda for my last weeks and months in northern Nevada.

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RadioHitchcock
I picked up two books today.

I bought "The Numbers Game" based on the recommendations in this thread and I got Charles Bukowski's "Women".

It will be my introductory to Bukowski, not sure if it's the best place to start but it seems the most interesting to me. Anyone read this one?

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Second attempt at reading this, about a quarter of the way through. Decent. I loved his last novel, "How Soon is Never?" Apparently he has a book about Green Day coming out in November... might check that out if I end up liking this as much as the last book.


This isn't nearly as good as "How Soon is Never?"


Just finished. I'm really disappointed that this wasn't great. "How Soon is Never?" was fantastic, and this was just... meh.

I may try to -finally- finish up Eggers' "You Shall Know Our Velocity!" before I start the Murakami book. I may also pick up the new Eggers book and tackle that as well. Or just put it in the stack, heh.
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Timely.
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It will be my introductory to Bukowski, not sure if it's the best place to start but it seems the most interesting to me. Anyone read this one?

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I read Post Office and Factotum in the last couple of weeks. Reading Ham On Rye at the moment. Women is next. I wasn't familiar with his work before Factotum, but I now consider myself to be a big fan.
Vivian Darkbloom
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Another winner from T.C. Boyle. Very verbally inventive and well-drawn characters. Eminently enjoyable, just like about every one of his other novels (though World's End is still the best) Don't understand why this dude doesn't enjoy more cross-over attention along the lines of Carl Hiassen or someone like that. Such a simultaneously fun and good writer
NumberTenOx
That reminds me. I need to go to the dentist.
Ben
Went to Border's on lunch break. Saw the new Mitch Albom. Got emotional. Sought to use my dollars in a vote against him as quickly as possible. Bought the following.

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Also, I'm about 2/3s of the way through the new paperback edition of this.

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I am a fan of George Packer.
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Went to Border's on lunch break. Saw the new Mitch Albom. Got emotional. Sought to use my dollars in a vote against him as quickly as possible.
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Went to Border's on lunch break. Saw the new Mitch Albom. Got emotional. Sought to use my dollars in a vote against him as quickly as possible.
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Every time you vote against Mitch Albom, baby Oprah cries. You bad mans!
feisty
10 pages in, I think I've just found my new favorite book.

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I am an old man.
theremin
Just picked these two up:

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Andrew Vachss - Mask Market

Probably my favorite living author. This book is #16 in the series.

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Christine Vachon - A Killer Life: How an Independent Film Producer Survives Deals and Disasters in Hollywood and Beyond

I'm seeing Christine in some seminars at the end of the month, so I had to leap on this book. She's a really great producer, having produced Happiness, Far From Heaven, Boys Don't Cry, Storytelling, The Grey Zone, One Hour Photo and The Notorious Bettie Page. Eight Independent Spirit Award Nominations, what can you say?

And the book is about exactly what I'm going to be doing, selling movies (her first book was about making them). There's even a chapter about selling to foreign markets, which is exactly what I've been looking for info on.
izzy
Tragedy In Hope: Carroll Quigley (Clinton's Mentor)
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Another winner from T.C. Boyle. Very verbally inventive and well-drawn characters. Eminently enjoyable, just like about every one of his other novels (though World's End is still the best) Don't understand why this dude doesn't enjoy more cross-over attention along the lines of Carl Hiassen or someone like that. Such a simultaneously fun and good writer

I'll have to check that one out. I enjoyed "Drop City" quite a bit.
Raleigh
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I was the shadow of the waxwing slain...

Vivian Darkbloom heartily endorses this novel, for reasons that should be obvious to any Nabokovian. Probably one of my top 5 favorite 20th century novels. INCREDIBLE piece of art.

Nice work. Enjoy. Plan on re-reading it about 20 times before you start to understand what "actually" happens.

Edit: Also appreciate your reading the Penguin edition instead of the Vintage. Both are lovely, but older books are often better books...
Ben
Three for two sale at Border's.

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I was the shadow of the waxwing slain...

Vivian Darkbloom heartily endorses this novel, for reasons that should be obvious to any Nabokovian. Probably one of my top 5 favorite 20th century novels. INCREDIBLE piece of art.

Nice work. Enjoy. Plan on re-reading it about 20 times before you start to understand what "actually" happens.

Edit: Also appreciate your reading the Penguin edition instead of the Vintage. Both are lovely, but older books are often better books...

How do you suggest reading it? I've been reading little chunks of the poem then flipping back for the commentary.

Really good so far.
Ben
I think it ought to be read straight through from the opening page with continual references to the footnotes as they occur. There is indeed a narrative arc that occurs as you progress and I'd hate for you to miss out.
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Freddie Freelance, held, and Ox, I think you guys would enjoy this:

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Got this as a birthday gift last night, and dove in this morning on my commute.

So far it is a real joy.

As much as I've loved The Man in the High Castle, I'm guessing that finishing it will have to wait until I'm done with Heat.

I just bought this. And these:

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I was the shadow of the waxwing slain...

Vivian Darkbloom heartily endorses this novel, for reasons that should be obvious to any Nabokovian. Probably one of my top 5 favorite 20th century novels. INCREDIBLE piece of art.

Nice work. Enjoy. Plan on re-reading it about 20 times before you start to understand what "actually" happens.

Edit: Also appreciate your reading the Penguin edition instead of the Vintage. Both are lovely, but older books are often better books...

How do you suggest reading it? I've been reading little chunks of the poem then flipping back for the commentary.


Really good so far.


Yeah, Ben's right- read it cover to cover. I wouldn't move back and forth between the text of the poem and the "footnotes," but rather, read the poem carefully and then move to the text of the footnotes, re-reading Cantos as necessary.

You need to be patient with it. It starts to make sense after a while, and your sense of amazement and wonder at the bizzare and not completely internally consistent but playfully so world will grow with each page.

It should become clear to you, from early on, that Kinbote is pretty much the Chief Bullgoose Looney of unreliable narrators.
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haha. That's so wild that somebody else reads Verlyn! He's like E.B. White, except a mellow ass Iowan. Did you ever seen the 500 word essay he wrote in the Times just about the calm pleasures of unwrapping a new piece of software for your computer? Unbelievable. How did that get in the newspaper?

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April 29, 2005
Editorial Observer; The Strange Pleasure of Upgrading Software
By VERLYN KLINKENBORG

Like many Apple computer users, I'm in a pleasant state of expectation. I've ordered Apple's updated operating system, but it hasn't yet arrived. I have housecleaning to do before I can install it: deleting dead programs in my applications folder, for instance, and backing up my hard drive. Then will come the almost visceral pleasure of installing new software. This is one of the most pleasant tasks I know, vastly easier than straightening up the barn or taking the truck in for service.

Somewhere at home I have the floppy disks of many previous upgrades, including versions of MS-DOS -- the first Microsoft operating system -- that date from the early 1980's. They are reminders of how strange the idea of software seemed to me at the time. It did not occur to me then that such strangeness was part of living in a hardware world.

The only way to upgrade the refrigerator or the vacuum cleaner is to buy a new one. I can think of nothing I owned at the time that was capable of taking in new instructions and using them to improve its operation substantially. The only thing that could do so was not a machine at all. It was a human being.

There have been some profoundly ungratifying upgrades, of course. That's why computer experts recommend backing up your hard drive before you upgrade, so you can return to a prior state if you have to. There's nothing quite like that in the hardware world either. There's something especially winning about the idea of taking a snapshot of the present so you can return to it if the future doesn't work out the way you want it to.

Until a few years ago, the release of a new version of Windows would cause a splendid national frenzy. Millions and millions of units were wrapped and shipped and received with a nervous excitement. It was, in those days before huge multiplayer online games, the closest possible thing to a collective computer experience. And then the fun went out of it, after too many versions, too many software patches in rapid succession and, worst of all, the uneasy sense that an upgrade could turn into a can of worms.

Apple has not been perfect either, its imperfections amplified by a customer base as curmudgeonly as it is fanatical. But to me, coming from that other world, upgrading Apple software feels almost redemptive.

When Tiger comes, I'll open the shipping box and tear off the shrink-wrap. But then I'll have to remember that inside the box, there will be only a disk or two. (The days of printed manuals are long gone.) I'll slip the disk into my computer, agree to the provisions of a contract I haven't really read and then sit back, waiting until the moment I can restart my computer and see what these pristine new instructions contain.
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January 29, 2006
Editorial Observer; 'No Messages on This Server,' and Other Lessons of Our Time
By VERLYN KLINKENBORG

I do not own a BlackBerry or a pager. I don't chat or instant-message or text-message. My cellphone could connect to the Web if I let it, but I don't. I don't gamble on the Internet nor do I game on it (or on any other electronic device). And yet I'm starting to twitch.

I have three everyday telephone numbers, not counting Skype and a calling card, and two fax numbers. I have six working e-mail addresses, as well as a few no longer in use. A couple of weeks ago I started writing a blog for The Times. Part of my job, as a blogger, is to read and approve the publication of readers' comments. That is the equivalent of another form of e-mail. There are probably half a dozen Really Simple Syndication tools on my computer, and one or another of them is always unfurling the latest ribbon of news in the background. It is astonishing how old the morning's headlines seem by evening.

Back in the dial-up days, computer users made brief forays onto a bulletin board or some outpost of the primitive Internet, all the while clocking connection time in order to keep costs down. Going online was like driving a Stanley Steamer -- better for scaring horses and wowing the youth than for long-distance hauling. There was always a slightly neurotic edge to it. You could feel the seconds ticking away while nothing happened. But nowadays turning on the computer is synonymous with being online. Who turns the computer off? It's rarely worth severing that digital link. For some of us, the computer has become less and less a place to work and more and more a place to await messages from the ether, like hopeful spiritualists.

I thought I was a fairly temperate user of computers. But in the past year or so I have become addicted to e-mail. I confess it. You probably know the signs. Do you tell your e-mail program to check for messages automatically every two minutes -- and then disbelieve it when it comes up empty? Have you learned to hesitate before answering a new message so it doesn't look as though you were hunched over the keyboard, waiting? Do you secretly think of lunch as a time for your inbox to fill up? But the clearest sign of e-mail addiction is simply to ask yourself, what is the longest you've gone without checking your e-mail in the past two months? Anything longer than a broken night's sleep is good.

I blame my e-mail addiction, in part, on the United States Postal Service. Seeing the mail lady pull up to our rural mailbox in her red station wagon with the flashing amber light on top is one of the high points of my day, whether there is anything ''good'' in the mail or not. (The ''goodness'' of mail is another question entirely.) When you think about it, the postal system is a remarkable thing, even in this new universe of instant-delivery systems. Its genius is this: The mail comes only once a day. All that expectation gathered into a single visit! And once-a-day-ness is built right into the system. I try to imagine the mail lady bringing every piece of mail to our mailbox as she gets it. In fact, that's exactly what she does, because the mail shows up only once a day at the local post office.

I suppose I could tell my e-mail program to check for mail on a postal schedule -- once a day -- although minutes are the only intervals the software understands. But that would defeat the logic of e-mail, which is meant to arrive seriatim -- hence, its addictive punch. The principle of snail mail is infrequency; the principle of e-mail is frequency. The real question is, what is the frequency for?

I think of e-mail as a continuing psychology experiment that studies the effect on humans of abrupt, frequently repeated stimuli -- often pleasurable, sometimes not, but always with the positive charge that comes from seeing new mail in the inbox. So far, the experiment has revealed, in me, the synaptic responses of a squirrel. It is a truism of our time that we now have shorter attention spans than ever before. I don't think that is true. What we have now are electronic media that can pulse at the actual rate of human thought. We have the distinct discomfort of seeing our neural pace reflected in the electronic world around us.

Amid all that is wasteful, distracting, irrelevant and downright evil about e-mail, there is also this. We carry dozens of people, sometimes hundreds, around with us in our heads. They pass in and out of our thoughts as quickly as thought itself. E-mail is a way to gather these people -- so many of them scattered across the globe -- into the immediacy of our lives in a way that makes even a phone call feel highly formalized. It is the nearness of e-mail, the conversations it creates, that is addicting as much as the minute-by-minute stimuli. I try to remember that when I am getting twitchy, when I start wondering whether the mail server is down again. I tell myself that I'm just listening for a chorus of voices, a chorus of friends.


Good stuff, that. I like this guy.
Ben
Verlyn is a lovely writer. You should see his stuff on mole.

Also, everyone should drop whatever they're reading and fetch George Packer's Assassin's Gate. The paperback is only $10 on Amazon. There is unlikely to be a better piece of journalism on the current Iraq war. I cannot say enough good things about it.

I've been making my way (belatedly) through the literature this past month. Just ordered used copies of the following.

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Just finished re-reading the brilliant:

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This was a require reading in one of my gen. ed. history classes and I loved it. End up reading it about once every year.

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Just started this over the weekend.


For various reasons I usually don't read a lot of full-on books. I'd say about 3-4 over the course of a year. Because of this I hate to dive into books without prior recommendation. I've read a number of O'brien's books and have liked them all to some degree. So if anyone has any recommendations I'm all ears.


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I listened to the book on tape. It's great stuff, but it makes me feel so small.
Andyroo
I gave up on the Eggers novel for a third time. No point in trying again without restarting. Too dense and I'm just not interested enough. Maybe I'll give it another go next year from the top.

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Reading this very slowly; a story or two before passing out once or twice a week. Just got into Sedaris in the last year, have already read Me Talk Pretty One Day, Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim, and Holidays on Ice. My friend gave me Holidays on Ice for Christmas last year and that kicked off the whole thing.
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Freddie Freelance, held, and Ox, I think you guys would enjoy this:

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Got this as a birthday gift last night, and dove in this morning on my commute.

So far it is a real joy.

As much as I've loved The Man in the High Castle, I'm guessing that finishing it will have to wait until I'm done with Heat.

I just bought this. And these:

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Biggie-- started reading Heat this weekend. I'm about 2/3rds of the way through (I would have finished, but I got caught up in other projects). It's a really good book. One of my favorites of the year so far.

Velocity-- I'll be looking for your review on the Republican War on Science book.

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I listened to the book on tape. It's great stuff, but it makes me feel so small.

It does have the power to put a map pin in human history and say "YOU ARE THERE", huh?

I read that and this, tag-team:

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It's a modern account of invasive species-- mostly the Brown Tree Snake that's spread throughout the South Pacific and is now being found in Hawaii. Some of the parallels in the migration patterns in both Jared's book and Burdick's are very interesting.
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I listened to the book on tape. It's great stuff, but it makes me feel so small.

It does have the power to put a map pin in human history and say "YOU ARE THERE", huh?


More like "YOU ARE NOT HERE" or "YOU DO NOT MATTER".
Everyone wants to do something cool enough to be remembered, right? Get in the history books?
It's a fucking history book without a single name in it.

It also re-establishes my belief in my religion, which is Chaos Theory.
Ben
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I gave up on the Eggers novel for a third time. No point in trying again without restarting. Too dense and I'm just not interested enough. Maybe I'll give it another go next year from the top.
There's determination! I have no idea why this guy inspires it, but it is impressive.
crease
I'm finally finishing Thomas Ricks' 'Fiasco' and, my, what a book that is. Lives up to the hype and then some. The sheer weight of the evidence he presents--example after example of us bumbling our way through the war lacking a coherent plan, counterinsurgency strategy (once it became necessary), or understanding of what's proved to be an alien culture--is impressive. It makes a mockery of dept of defense and Bush's claim that the generals will get all the troops they need.

And Ben: You were right about Fallujah. My blood was boiling at that point.
Ben
One source in Packer's book refers to that kind of long-distance meddling from Washington as the "8,000 mile screwdriver."

I'm planning on going to see Andrew Sullivan and Rajiv Chandrasekaran when they give back-to-back readings at Poetry and Prose this Saturday. I really want to ask Sullivan what it's like for him to be the pinata these days. Any questions you guys would like to have answered?
boobs
Ben, what do you think of Bukowski?

I think I may have asked you this before but i forget the answer. My old roomate said he considers beat literature the 'conscious rap' of the literary world. i imagine you take more of a popist view of beat lit. But I'm guessing. Discuss.
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One source in Packer's book refers to that kind of long-distance meddling from Washington as the "8,000 mile screwdriver."

I'm planning on going to see Andrew Sullivan and Rajiv Chandrasekaran when they give back-to-back readings at Poetry and Prose this Saturday. I really want to ask Sullivan what it's like for him to be the pinata these days. Any questions you guys would like to have answered?

Someday, I'm going to understand what you're talking about. smile.gif
feisty
My favorite history book:

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Now reading for class, and enjoying the Oxford History of the British Empire Vol II: The Eighteenth Century as well as:

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I'm realizing more and more how the British really are the best writers of history. They've gotten better about casting aside traditionalism and old-white-man-interpretation-of-history-ism. They have this great, journalistic, intensely detailed way of writing. Their theories tend to be a little more careful (but maybe less conclusive) than American writers, I think.

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