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Mr. Inches
Many people feel that nuclear weapons are the doom of mankind, and they might be right. In this era of rogue proliferation, it's hard to feel any other way. But, maybe nuclear weapons are the savior of mankind...

When you look at the world's military capabilities without nuclear weapons: you can draw this conclusion: without the nuclear bomb WWIII might have started up at any time and continued on. We might even be on to WWIV by now.

If you look at the world today, it just might be that the nuclear bomb is the only thing that is averting World War. With all the hostility in the world coming to a boiling point, it's easy to concieve of a world where China was invading and conquering Asia, or America being in a conventional war with European powers.

It just may be that the only reason we are not in Global conflict presently, and have avoided it for the past 3/4 century is nuclear proliferation. And, it just may be the threat of nuclear conflict that holds the world together long enough for the real space age to truly begin...
NumberTenOx
QUOTE(Mr. Inches @ Feb 9 2006, 08:44 AM) [snapback]15593[/snapback]

Many people feel that nuclear weapons are the doom of mankind, and they might be right. In this era of rogue proliferation, it's hard to feel any other way. But, maybe nuclear weapons are the savior of mankind...

When you look at the world's military capabilities without nuclear weapons: you can draw this conclusion: without the nuclear bomb WWIII might have started up at any time and continued on. We might even be on to WWIV by now.

If you look at the world today, it just might be that the nuclear bomb is the only thing that is averting World War. With all the hostility in the world coming to a boiling point, it's easy to concieve of a world where China was invading and conquering Asia, or America being in a conventional war with European powers.

It just may be that the only reason we are not in Global conflict presently, and have avoided it for the past 3/4 century is nuclear proliferation. And, it just may be the threat of nuclear conflict that holds the world together long enough for the real space age to truly begin...

Y'all need to read:

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Mr. Inches
QUOTE(NumberTenOx @ Feb 9 2006, 08:49 AM) [snapback]15595[/snapback]

Y'all need to read:

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I just finished my book...

Is this for real good?

Did you read it?
NumberTenOx
QUOTE(Mr. Inches @ Feb 9 2006, 09:12 AM) [snapback]15602[/snapback]

I just finished my book...

Is this for real good?

Did you read it?



Wouldn't have recommended it otherwise. It's an excellent "biography" of the bomb. Best of all, the politics are outlined, but not slanted. It's extremely balanced in its account.
undo
QUOTE(Mr. Inches @ Feb 9 2006, 08:44 AM) [snapback]15593[/snapback]

And, it just may be the threat of nuclear conflict that holds the world together long enough for the real space age to truly begin...

The "space age" that we were always sure we were headed for is never going to happen.
Sid Hartha
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AFTERSHOCK
Hmmm... being perversely fascinated with nuclear explosives for years, I must read this book.

If you want to see a great documentary of the bomb, check out:

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and this is another great book:

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Mr. Inches
QUOTE(AFTERSHOCK @ Feb 9 2006, 04:35 PM) [snapback]16063[/snapback]

Hmmm... being perversely fascinated with nuclear explosives for years, I must read this book.

If you want to see a great documentary of the bomb, check out:

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and this is another great book:

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How do you feel about the theory? Is the A Bomb the only thing holding this world together?
beansimpson
Stalin tried on numerous occations to provoke us into a dirrect conflict, but for the most part, M.A.D. did keep a major conflict between superpowers from occuring. However, if you don't care about being destroyed, nuclear arms are not much of a deturant.
Mr. Inches
QUOTE(beansimpson @ Feb 9 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]16253[/snapback]

Stalin tried on numerous occations to provoke us into a dirrect conflict, but for the most part, M.A.D. did keep a major conflict between superpowers from occuring. However, if you don't care about being destroyed, nuclear arms are not much of a deturant.


Ahhhh. But, if you study about terror you find this: rarely, if ever, do the terrorists send their families to die or themselves. They send crazy people. Kind of like American Street gangs. They prey upon those whose families are destroyed. Who have lost their wives and kids, etc. (but, the odd thing about 911 is that the killers do not fit this profile: but, the standard is the same across SE Asia.)

The reality is nobody wants their homeland vaporized. Nobody. Everybody cares.

Listen to the rhetoric of Hamas right now. They, as twisted as it may seem to you or I, are trying to do what they think is the right thing. And, the right thing to NOBODY, is to vaporize the homeland. Not even N. Korea...
beansimpson
QUOTE(Mr. Inches @ Feb 9 2006, 10:26 PM) [snapback]16262[/snapback]

Ahhhh. But, if you study about terror you find this: rarely, if ever, do the terrorists send their families to die or themselves. They send crazy people. Kind of like American Street gangs. They prey upon those whose families are destroyed. Who have lost their wives and kids, etc. (but, the odd thing about 911 is that the killers do not fit this profile: but, the standard is the same across SE Asia.)

The reality is nobody wants their homeland vaporized. Nobody. Everybody cares.

Listen to the rhetoric of Hamas right now. They, as twisted as it may seem to you or I, are trying to do what they think is the right thing. And, the right thing to NOBODY, is to vaporize the homeland. Not even N. Korea...

but if its a group or individual that delivers a nuke, and not a country, then you can't retaliate with a nuke. This is where the real problem can come in.
Mr. Inches
QUOTE (beansimpson @ Feb 9 2006, 10:29 PM) *
but if its a group or individual that delivers a nuke, and not a country, then you can't retaliate with a nuke. This is where the real problem can come in.


yeah
kalmia
I think that if Iran developes nuclear weapons and tests them, it would avoid a war between the US and Iran. In a way, I hope they do get nuclear weapons. If Iraq had nuclear weapons, we wouldn't have the current war there now.

Look at atomic Pakistan. They are our ally in the "War on Terra".
AFTERSHOCK
There's no way that we will avoid a nuclear war. None. It will happen, it's only a matter of time. Hopefully, we'll all be long dead by the time our cultural paranoias push us over the edge. But I dunno... these days, it seems pretty unstable, and there are so many goddamn nukes out there, and more effecient and smaller ones being made every minute... tic tic tic..

And I'm the optimistic type - really!
pong
So, are nuclear weapons the only reason why Russia is doing wargames in Venezuela right now, and not invading Florida?
pong
QUOTE (undo @ Feb 9 2006, 11:31 AM) *
QUOTE (Mr. Inches @ Feb 9 2006, 08:44 AM) *

And, it just may be the threat of nuclear conflict that holds the world together long enough for the real space age to truly begin...

The "space age" that we were always sure we were headed for is never going to happen.


I disagree. I see the space age as being 50-100 years away.
Ned
Probably pretty morbid and disturbing, but when you look at that curve climbing exponentially upward to represent the growth of the species, coupled with the shitty state of pretty much everything these days...
I'm not saying I'm one for horrid horrid disasters, but from a purely biological standpoint, at this stage, we'd maybe have a better chance just going back to square one Mad Max style and doing it all over again. If anything, maybe it'd buy us time. Unfortunately, there'd be no more taco bells.

QUOTE (pong @ Sep 25 2008, 10:46 PM) *
QUOTE (undo @ Feb 9 2006, 11:31 AM) *
QUOTE (Mr. Inches @ Feb 9 2006, 08:44 AM) *

And, it just may be the threat of nuclear conflict that holds the world together long enough for the real space age to truly begin...

The "space age" that we were always sure we were headed for is never going to happen.


I disagree. I see the space age as being 50-100 years away.


And by the way, where the fuck is my hoverboard??
Ogawa
QUOTE (Irwin Fletcher @ Sep 26 2008, 01:51 AM) *
And by the way, where the fuck is my hoverboard??

Seven more years.
Ned
QUOTE (Ogawa @ Sep 25 2008, 10:53 PM) *
QUOTE (Irwin Fletcher @ Sep 26 2008, 01:51 AM) *
And by the way, where the fuck is my hoverboard??

Seven more years.

Fingers crossed...
Some Brilliant Bullsh*t
QUOTE (Mr. Inches @ Feb 9 2006, 09:44 AM) *
Many people feel that nuclear weapons are the doom of mankind, and they might be right. In this era of rogue proliferation, it's hard to feel any other way. But, maybe nuclear weapons are the savior of mankind...

When you look at the world's military capabilities without nuclear weapons: you can draw this conclusion: without the nuclear bomb WWIII might have started up at any time and continued on. We might even be on to WWIV by now.

If you look at the world today, it just might be that the nuclear bomb is the only thing that is averting World War. With all the hostility in the world coming to a boiling point, it's easy to concieve of a world where China was invading and conquering Asia, or America being in a conventional war with European powers.

It just may be that the only reason we are not in Global conflict presently, and have avoided it for the past 3/4 century is nuclear proliferation. And, it just may be the threat of nuclear conflict that holds the world together long enough for the real space age to truly begin...


This theory didn't save Earth once the apes got inside the Forbidden Zone, you know.
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