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Elemeno P.T.
QUOTE(agrimorfee @ Mar 5 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]328646[/snapback]

Idiocracy--Mike Judge deserves a lot of praise for this. A HUGE amount of praise.



Stranger Than Fiction--I got the literary humor more than my wife did. Very well done, it's not just another "Adaptation". Queen Latifah cashed in her paycheck by standing around. I wished we were told who the author was a little bit later...and wished we understood why she was such a basketcase. Best cookie-eating scene ever, I got hungry.
LOL at Will Ferrell told to go to the "6th Street" subway station, then cut to him running in the State/Dearborn tunnel. smile.gif


Sounds like we're on the same page with these. So where will Idiocracy and Stranger Than Fiction figure in your corrective list?
Angrimorfee
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Sounds like we're on the same page with these. So where will Idiocracy and Stranger Than Fiction figure in your corrective list?


They would fall on the lower half of the list, assuming Borat and The Departed are up to expectations.
nobodies
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Borat

Very funny. Everyone should see this movie. There are 7 or 8 deleted scenes on the DVD and almost everyone of those are damn good too.


I watched this last night too. It was very funny, but I was still slightly disappointed, partly because of high expectations, and partly because I'd already seen/heard about so much of the movie in clips and discussions. Also, I think after seeing so many Ali G episodes, it sort of just felt like another (very good) episode of the tv show. Not a bad thing, just not as ground breaking as I'd expected.
Artem
how do you expect a comedy film to be groundbreaking?
nobodies
Maybe "groundbreaking" isn't the right word in this context. I guess I was more referring to the superlatives attached to Borat: I'd heard many refer to it as the best film of the year (including this board); and some refer to it as one of the greatest comedies of all time.

That said, why can't a comedy be groundbreaking? I'd say many of Mel Brook's early films were groundbreaking in their approach to race, religion, and language.
Artem
i think comedies can be groundbreaking. but not these days. (you can say it about films in general, i think). modern comedy to me is pretty much when someone lights his ass on fire.

i'm a big fan of old italian films. 50s-60s. and there're comedy films that are groundbreaking. from directing techniques to the subject matter.

i'm still puzzled by the love for that "borat" film that this board has. i saw quite a few of short clips from and and his interviews, and none made me wanna go watch it. "oh my god. stupid americans. you're racist and are killing innocent people and your president is a moron". that's what i got from the clips what the movie is about. is this really the kind of movie you'd call the best movie of the year?!

maybe i shouldn't claim too much, cos i haven't seen the film myself, but that's just something that i was thinking. so don't take me too seriously.



as for me, planning to watch this tonight:
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nobodies
I bought Borat, strictly based on the hype, and I guess my bigger concern is that it's just not going to hold up on repeated viewings. A lot of it's shock humor, which tends to wilt after the first time seeing it.
crease
I don't know if it counts, but I re-watched 'Long-Term Parking', which was the penultimate episode of Sopranos season 5 (the one where Sil whacks Adriana in the woods). And boy if that episode isn't quite possibly the best hour of the Sopranos of all. Packed a wallop.

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Summary

Directed by: Tim Van Patten
Written by: Terence Winter

"We're in a fucking stagmire."

At the FBI's field office, Walter, an agent scanning surveillance video, notices something and has Agent Sanseverino take a look. On the tape, Adriana emerges from the back of Crazy Horse, carrying a small plastic bag. She locks up the club for the night, places the bag in the garbage dumpster and heads for her car. "But then," Walter points out, "she changes her mind." Adriana retrieves the bag, puts it in the trunk of her car and drives away. "Interesting," says Agent Sanseverino.

In New York, Tony has a sitdown with Johnny Sack where the topic of discussion is the fate of Tony Blundetto. Tony tells Johnny that he doesn't know where his cousin is, but Johnny is unappeased; he wants Tony B. "on a fucking spit" for the killings of Joe Peeps and Billy Leotardo. "You either deliver that prick to my door," Johnny warns, "or I will rain a shit storm down on you and your family like you have never fucking seen."

Family has been on Tony's mind quite a bit lately. Following much discussion, he and Carmela have decided to reconcile. But before Carmela will allow Tony under her roof, she wants assurance that there will be no one else under his sheets. "I swear to you on our children," he tells her, "that my midlife crisis problems will no longer intrude on you anymore." In addition, Carmela wants "something else in her life," i.e., a creative project. She wants to build a house on speculation and needs $600,000 for a piece of land. Tony agrees and shortly after moves back home where, at dinner with Carmela and A.J., he makes a champagne toast: "To the people I love. Nothing else matters."

But Tony still has to decide what to do about his loved one who's on the lam. Despite the untenable position in which Tony B. has put him, Tony S. remains protective of him. When his cousin phones him one night, Tony agrees to look after the twins and then confesses that he's always felt responsible for Tony B.'s incarceration. "Now we're even," Tony S. says. After hanging up he has the call traced and discovers that his cousin is hiding out in upstate New York, probably at Uncle Pat's vacant farmhouse.

Meanwhile, the FBI learns that the plastic bag in the surveillance video contained evidence of a murder. A drug dealer named Matush stabbed a dissatisfied customer in Adriana's office. Threatened with twenty-five years for obstructing an investigation, Adriana offers as a last resort to attempt flip Christopher although she is unsure if he will actually do it, and is sent home. After a long, at times violent, confrontation, Christopher finally seems ready to join Adriana in witness protection. But then he goes out to get some cigarettes and, a couple hours later, the phone rings. It's Tony, telling Adriana that Christopher, who's started drinking again, has attempted suicide in Ramapo and that Silvio is on his way to take her to the hospital. But it soon becomes clear that Tony was lying. Instead of going to the hospital, Silvio drives Adriana to a secluded spot in the woods and fires two bullets into her as she attempts to crawl away through the leaves.

Shortly after, Tony meets Johnny Sack beside the East River. Johnny is now the undisputed boss of New York (Little Carmine, finding he has no stomach for bloody conflict, withdrew from competition) and it's already gone to his head. He tells Tony, "This is the last time we'll meet like this. It's undignified." Then, when Tony accedes to Tony B.'s execution but requests, as a friend, to be allowed to handle it himself, Johnny flatly refuses. He similarly rebuffs Tony's request that the death be quick. The reason for his refusal is curt: "I choose not to." Taken aback, Tony steps away for a moment to consider his options. Then he goes to Johnny and looks him square in the eye. "You know what, John?" he says, smiling, "I'll give you undignified. Go fuck yourself. And Phil and whoever. He's my fuckin' cousin." Then he climbs into his Escalade and drives away.
Andyroo
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Watching again (third time through) in prep for the DVD release of S3P1 and the subsequent premiere of the second half of the season in a few weeks. God, I love this show. With The O.C. dead and gone, I can now claim this as my favorite show on TV. Too bad HBO shows don't typically produce episodes as quickly as the network stuff.
Artem
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this wasn't very good sad.gif
wouldn't say that i wasted my time, but i shoudl probably go back in godard's filmography as opposed to going forward.

i wonder if that's the place when godard started to have these phylosophical narratives throughout his films. it was allright, but i'm not sure how you supposed to follow his thought throughout the whole film. is it supposed to be interactive. like, pause, write down whatever he said. think it over. play again. i dunno. the visual part was good, but the narrative didn't do that much to me. i definitely prefer "masculin femenine" to this.
raumschwein
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Saw this last night--my wife's a big fan of Augusten Burroughs. Thoroughly enjoyable. It's always nice to see a family (broadly defined) depicted that's even more screwed up than your own.
Paul
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QUOTE(Artem @ Mar 8 2007, 11:46 AM) [snapback]331455[/snapback]

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this wasn't very good sad.gif
wouldn't say that i wasted my time, but i shoudl probably go back in godard's filmography as opposed to going forward.

i wonder if that's the place when godard started to have these phylosophical narratives throughout his films. it was allright, but i'm not sure how you supposed to follow his thought throughout the whole film. is it supposed to be interactive. like, pause, write down whatever he said. think it over. play again. i dunno. the visual part was good, but the narrative didn't do that much to me. i definitely prefer "masculin femenine" to this.


I saw this at the Music Box last Wednesday and pretty much thought the same thing.
mouthbreather
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Pretty interesting documentary about the eccentric artist.
My only complaint was that they decided to animate his artwork to coincide with the narrative.
Artem
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this was really really good. fellin never stops facinating me.
so many different emotions in one film. it's amazing how he's capable of mixing comedy and tragedy within 10 minutes of the film and you still follow all of them with an open heart.
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this was really really good. fellin never stops facinating me.
so many different emotions in one film. it's amazing how he's capable of mixing comedy and tragedy within 10 minutes of the film and you still follow all of them with an open heart.

This film touched me deep, right where it hurts. And just like La Strada, I felt bad witnessing this woman fall apart.
Artem
i believe i saw 4 fellini films so far. and i'd say that "nights of cabiria" is probably his most humanistic. it was very simplistic in its depiction of humanity, i thought. which i really liked.

i rather liked "la strada" too. but i think what separates it from "nights of cabiria" is that fellini uses all those jung's archetypes and they make the film very psychological. but with "cabiria" it's all right on the screen. no metaphors. just humans the way they are.
_jon
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i believe i saw 4 fellini films so far. and i'd say that "nights of cabiria" is probably his most humanistic. it was very simplistic in its depiction of humanity, i thought. which i really liked.

i rather liked "la strada" too. but i think what separates it from "nights of cabiria" is that fellini uses all those jung's archetypes and they make the film very psychological. but with "cabiria" it's all right on the screen. no metaphors. just humans the way they are.

Yeah, that's exactly what I gathered after my first and only viewing. The loving and hateful aspects of humanity. But don't forget in La Strada the main character was too innocent herself to actually comprehend others, and she too was as simple as love.

Oh, a quick warning... for the love of all that's great in Godard and Fellini's work, avoid Weekend and City of Women. Although quite aesthetically pleasing, there' way too much junk in them two to turn you off films for awhile.
Artem
i'll keep it in mind. thanks.
AFTERSHOCK
Revisiting an old favorite:

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Great fun. One of Kevin Spacey's finest hours.
Artem
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this was so so.
for some reason, can't really put my finger on it, but french films, both old and new, don't do much to me.

oh and the woman was a bitch. i hoped someone would kick her bitch ass in that film.
By-Tor
I just saw "The 300", and:

****

The best film made in 2007. You will not see a better film this year, and I say this--based on the fact that "The 300" was better than all of last year's movies.


The lead actor who portrayed Leonides is on his way, no doubt.

What a performance!

And no, ther wasn't a whole lot of dialogue, but ther was a lot of presence.
Slackmo
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The lead actor who portrayed Leonides is on his way, no doubt.


Yeah, Gerard Butler's been turning in a bunch of solid secondary roles in forgettable films, but it's good to see him getting the big break.
Pavement Ist Rad
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This has one of the worst scores ever.

Tom Kenny is the shit.
Andyroo
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I liked the book more, but this wasn't bad. Would have liked more cohesion within the stories, but they all cover relevant matters. Actually, the big focus on immigrant workers actually seems to take a page from Schlosser's post-FFN book, Reefer Madness.

At the very least, it has me second-guessing meat again.
Nick
QUOTE(By-Tor @ Mar 10 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]334160[/snapback]

I just saw "The 300", and:

****

The best film made in 2007. You will not see a better film this year, and I say this--based on the fact that "The 300" was better than all of last year's movies.


The lead actor who portrayed Leonides is on his way, no doubt.

What a performance!

And no, ther wasn't a whole lot of dialogue, but ther was a lot of presence.


How can you be so sure? It is only March. This is like when some knob in the Music Forum starts proclaiming an album to be top 3 of the year material in mid-January.
feisty
Oh my God Apocalypse Now what the fuck.
PS This was my first time. I already have extremely vivid dreams about war and police states etc on a semi-regular basis.
tjenz
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Hollywoodland

There is a lot to like about this movie, surprisingly Ben Affleck is one of those things. I liked how the movie let you draw your own conclusions instead of saying "this is what happened"
Rent it!
held
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they live by night (1948)

Nick Ray's first flick. The fact that it's a noir isn't too surprising. Really good cast and while
it sort of peeters out here and there. It's worth a look.

I don't know which film was the first to use a helicopter for the aerial shots but I kind of wonder if this might be it. Mostly because its clearly on the low budget side and it sticks out.

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ace in the hole

I love how this film in many ways plays in contrast to our boards most unwelcome annoyance.
Douglas playing a suedo-has been newspaper man who's looking to make a comeback with a sure thing. Only he keeps burning bridges and rubbing people the wrong way so that in the end while for a moment he'd become the master of the universe. He only falls victim to his own vanity and greed.
it's a must see.

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8 1/2 women

I have a true love/hate relationship with Peter Greenaway. I know he's a brilliant filmmaker and I'm aware (most of the time) of the elements that he's fusing together to create these fairly elaborate pictures in which to tell his stories.

Yet, it's not altogether that impressive in every case when he carries on as this arrogant prick who has some greater than thou mindset and for me in almost every film of his I've seen. Greenaway just continuously reminds of that.

Still, there's some interesting segments in this and I must say Polly Walker is hot.
Freddie Freelance
QUOTE(feisty @ Mar 11 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]334594[/snapback]

Oh my God Apocalypse Now what the fuck.
PS This was my first time. I already have extremely vivid dreams about war and police states etc on a semi-regular basis.

Whenever I'd drop acid in the '80s I'd end up watching this movie, so I have very little idea of what it's about.
feisty
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QUOTE(feisty @ Mar 11 2007, 05:22 PM) [snapback]334594[/snapback]

Oh my God Apocalypse Now what the fuck.
PS This was my first time. I already have extremely vivid dreams about war and police states etc on a semi-regular basis.

Whenever I'd drop acid in the '80s I'd end up watching this movie, so I have very little idea of what it's about.


All you need to know is what you probably already know: an adapatation of the most fucked up story ever (Heart of Darkness) in the context of one of the most fucked up events ever (Vietnam).
_jon
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mouthbreather
I didn't know that porn was eligible for this thread!
nobodies
I'm voting no porn in this thread. Would like it to remain SFW. Please feel free to start a separate porn thread though.
mouthbreather
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I'm not sure why I watched this exactly, but it was decent. Not great, but watchable.

It struck me as a little ironic that Jennifer Aniston played a cleaning lady, while her friends are all well off.
I'm sure that in reality her wealth is probably greater than the rest of the supporting cast combined.
raumschwein
Ironic indeed. But I will say that's she's a surprisingly good actress. I haven't seen that one, but I thought she showed some real talent in The Good Girl.
mouthbreather
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Ironic indeed. But I will say that's she's a surprisingly good actress. I haven't seen that one, but I thought she showed some real talent in The Good Girl.

I should add that the soundtrack had a couple of good tracks by Rickie Lee Jones.

Norton???
Artem
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Andyroo
I just got in Let's Go to Prison from Netflix. What's the word on this? Compelling/amusing like Melvin Goes to Dinner, awful slop like Run Ronnie Run, or something in-between?

It's got Dax!
By-Tor
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QUOTE(By-Tor @ Mar 10 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]334160[/snapback]

I just saw "The 300", and:

****

The best film made in 2007. You will not see a better film this year, and I say this--based on the fact that "The 300" was better than all of last year's movies.


The lead actor who portrayed Leonides is on his way, no doubt.

What a performance!

And no, ther wasn't a whole lot of dialogue, but there was a lot of presence.


How can you be so sure? It is only March. This is like when some knob in the Music Forum starts proclaiming an album to be top 3 of the year material in mid-January.


I know that it was a Roeper-like, maybe even bullshit Peter Travers-type comment, but seriously--it takes a lot to get me this excited about a film. And when Roeper said that 300 was the citizen kane of the graphic novel genre--he shoulda said that it was the Star Wars of the graphic novel genre.

Amazing film. Start the oscar hype now. I haven't been wowed like this since like, Pulp Fiction. When I say wowed, I mean this excited. I am not making the mistake of comparing the 2 films. Just comparing the excitement. Just wanted to go record as saying early that this movie will win some oscars.
AFTERSHOCK
Revisited another old favorite. God, I absolutely love this movie:

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Mitchell
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Amazing film. Start the oscar hype now. I haven't been wowed like this since like, Pulp Fiction. When I say wowed, I mean this excited. I am not making the mistake of comparing the 2 films. Just comparing the excitement. Just wanted to go record as saying early that this movie will win some oscars.


Even though I've not seen it (It's not out here yet) there is no way on Middle Earth this film will do anything than pick up some technical nods, Directing, Editing, Screenplay, Picture, Acting it must have next to no chance of being nominated for those let alone. I'm pretty sure it would suffer from being so far from ballot date even if no other films reach the technical excellence of it in areas like Cinematography, Costume, Special effects and Editing in the next 9 months.

Plus it may well be at #156 (8.4) on IMDB but that won't last for more than an month. It's rating of 53 on Metacritic is unlikely to change even when a reassessment for DVD comes along.
mouthbreather
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Revisited another old favorite. God, I absolutely love this movie:

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Such a great epic! Beautifully filmed, well-acted, and of course the direction of Scorsese.
I like how it covers a pretty broad slice of time. And some of DeNiro's costumes are classics.
mouthbreather
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Eckhart revisits his typical role as a sleazy smooth talker.
Well-written satire with a strong supporting cast.
Freddie Freelance
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The Fisher-Price Little People - Fun to Learn: Discovering Counting & Discovering the Seasons, at least 20 times over the past weekend. The joys of having a 3yo in the house, even if only for 4 days. "Let's watch Sara!" dry.gif She's just lucky I lover her so and let her do pretty much anything she wants.

WATCH Maggie be (just a little) Bossy! SEE twins Sarah-Lynn & Eddie prove they're individuals! LEARN that Michael can do magic, if it advances the threadbare plot! And WATCH Freddie the Frog be overly Anthropomorphic!
Artem
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very good blink.gif
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The Fisher-Price Little People - Fun to Learn: Discovering Counting & Discovering the Seasons, at least 20 times over the past weekend. The joys of having a 3yo in the house, even if only for 4 days. "Let's watch Sara!" dry.gif She's just lucky I lover her so and let her do pretty much anything she wants.

WATCH Maggie be (just a little) Bossy! SEE twins Sarah-Lynn & Eddie prove they're individuals! LEARN that Michael can do magic, if it advances the threadbare plot! And WATCH Freddie the Frog be overly Anthropomorphic!


jesus h. I hate to admit the dread I have over these things. a free dvd came with some toy we got our little one which was this patched up claymation/stop motion deal along with a soundtrack starring Aaron Neville... talk about registering for a suicide pact- I've got to bury this thing in the mulch before someone realizes its missing.

Angrimorfee
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This was cute, but suffers in many of the same ways so many current computer-animated films do: belch jokes, testicle-crushing slapstick, over-reliance on current/70s pop songs to set a mood, and simply trying too hard to appeal to the grownups in the audience with nudging pop culture references. The film has the stupidity to include a hunt for a missing ruby that serves no purpose other than to get the main protagonists together. Sir Ian McKellan chewed the scenery quite well as the bad guy, at least, while Jean Reno served his voice as a French-accented frog character that does absolutely nothing to improve France's relations with the world. And the slugs were cute.
boobs
QUOTE(By-Tor @ Mar 10 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]334160[/snapback]

I just saw "The 300", and:

****

The best film made in 2007. You will not see a better film this year, and I say this--based on the fact that "The 300" was better than all of last year's movies.


The lead actor who portrayed Leonides is on his way, no doubt.

What a performance!

And no, ther wasn't a whole lot of dialogue, but ther was a lot of presence.

This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. I hope for your sake there is some of that requisite 'hipster irony' going on here cuz holy shit was this movie terrible.

Enjoyably so though - I've never seen a mainstream film that is so earnestly homoerotic and camp in my life. So many six-packs i thought maybe these dudes abs had been created is post-production, its a veritable onslaught of male bodies, a spartan cast of earnest dudebro gym rats and utterly over-the-top dialogue that seems entirely unaware at how ridiculous it all is - "Tonight we dine...IN HELL!" "Freedom isn't free" "SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAA!" Its like an earnest Starship Troopers, or something. Don't even get me started on the queen letting mcnulty from the wire fuck her in exchange for some confusing/unneccessary POLITICAL INTRIGUE subplot action (which is resolved in the traditional Spartan manner - stabbing someone to death!)

And to get this out of the way cuz its all you expect from a deej post (and more) - hells yeah this shit was racist, although that made up a small portion of my issues w/ it. Yes, the white folks playing the spartans are super-manly heroes fighting an effeminate multi-ethnic polyglot pan-Afro-Asian conglomeration of EXOTICS lead by Sylvester Xerxes. But there's so much MORE to its ideology that is troubling/hilarious.

Its entirely unclear why we should be rooting for the heroes, and how exactly their utterly militaristic culture is defending 'freedom' against the threat of 'mysticism' when they seem entirely unaware that their mystical obsession with glory on the battlefield (a.k.a. dying for your absurdly violent culture) is a fascist, militaristic existence, while the enemy is portrayed as pure evil without a clear understanding of why exactly we should prefer Spartan existence to that of the Persian hordes. Frankly the Persian orgy scene looked a lot more appealing than the Spartans' promotion of a youth spent wrestling other dudes..

Don't get me started on the hilariously forced softcore sex scenes shoehorned in for no discernable reason, which were about as provacative as a Bob Loblaw posts in the ASS thread.

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Artem
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for some reason this felt a lot like a staged play. not bad, but can't say i really liked it.
_jon
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for some reason this felt a lot like a staged play. not bad, but can't say i really liked it.

You have no soul that's all.
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