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mouthbreather
QUOTE(held @ Dec 3 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]519057[/snapback]


marie antoinette

everything about the sets had stunning details and all the costumes were obvs oscar worthy but outside of the creative soundtrack. I was less than blown away by any performance in this. just a one off-kilter biopic with tinkering and folly.


otm
A feast for the eyes... and that's about it.
Asher Ford
I dunno, I liked the acting/direction quite a bit too. But yea, the visuals were great.
AFTERSHOCK
QUOTE(NumberTenOx @ Dec 3 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]518958[/snapback]
Elf sucks. Law of the Universe: All things Will Ferrell-related suck. He's a one-note, no range, manchild...

I'll second that.
bleach
huh? i would have pegged one or both of aftershock or mouthbreather as primal scream fans.
regarding Maria Antoinette. this probably bothered me more than it should have but seeing dunst's tan lines really got to me.
mouthbreather
QUOTE(bleach @ Dec 3 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]519709[/snapback]
huh? i would have pegged one or both of aftershock or mouthbreather as primal scream fans.

a bit
QUOTE(bleach @ Dec 3 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]519709[/snapback]
regarding Maria Antoinette. this probably bothered me more than it should have but seeing dunst's tan lines really got to me.

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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed watching the movie, but it worked on kind of a surface level - not very thought provoking.
I'll take Barry Lyndon over it any day.
feisty
I have to watch this at least once a month:

bleach
has moments. fleeting as they are, they do exist.
AFTERSHOCK
^
Ug. Even back in my drug days, and even tho I love Peter Sellers' work... that movie is tolerable at best.
bleach
QUOTE(AFTERSHOCK @ Dec 4 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]520675[/snapback]
^
Ug. Even back in my drug days, and even tho I love Peter Sellers' work... that movie is tolerable at best.

tolerable may be too kind a word for this movie. and i think if one was to watch it while high they would be greatly disappointed because, well, the point of getting high is to have fun. might be ten minutes of watchable movie here.
yancy
Caught Sex, Lies, and Videotape tonight. If there's a more overrated film I can't think of it. This helped kick off the independent film boom of the '90s? We're lucky it ever happened.
_jon
Wrong. The movie is a total mind fuck, worthy of its praise.
hummingbird
QUOTE(_jon @ Dec 5 2007, 06:58 AM) [snapback]520896[/snapback]
Wrong. The movie is a total mind fuck, worthy of its praise.


Agreed. Sex, Lies, and Videotape is essential viewing. It gets under my skin in a weird and good way every time.
forgo
he's only pissed that andie macdowell wasn't nude.
_jon
Yeah, gonna watch it tonight.
bleach
watched SuperBad today. it really shouldn't have taken me this long. best new comedy i've seen since pick of destiny.
brainstorm
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velocity
^^ what's the middle one?
brainstorm
QUOTE(velocity @ Dec 7 2007, 04:17 AM) [snapback]523237[/snapback]
^^ what's the middle one?


Non-asshole answer: The Namesake.

Total asshole answer: Click on the image and it magically gets bigger!
Angrimorfee

I watched the so-called "extended/uncut" edition, so it seemed to drag on a bit longer than I think it should have.
God, the blonde friend was such a fucking bitch! (Scary thing is, we have had fights like that couple did. ohmy.gif ). Not quite as funny as 40 Year-Old Virgin, but at least the story seemed real.


Very depressing, but well-done. I didn't get quite get the redemptive themes that supposedly permeate the story...in particular, the central thread regarding teen-aged Sarah Polley as the lone survivor of a school bus crash. Maybe you'll get it, maybe not, but it's still a compelling story.
Wolfgang
QUOTE(yancy @ Dec 5 2007, 03:27 AM) [snapback]520873[/snapback]
Caught Sex, Lies, and Videotape tonight. If there's a more overrated film I can't think of it.

I'm with you on this one. But I'd say the movie wasn't bad at all, just terribly overrated.

This was a lot better than I thought it would be:
RadioHitchcock
catching up on this

the godfather:

first time seeing this and i have to agree with the people who think it's one of the best ever.

hot fuzz:

real dumb. i have to agree. i don't get the love for this.

the godfather ii:

i liked the first one better but this was good too.

rescue dawn:

beautiful film.
mouthbreather


Black Snake Moan
Much better than I expected. The trailers were very misleading - focusing only on the Ricci in chains aspect.
brainstorm
QUOTE(mouthbreather @ Dec 7 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]523457[/snapback]


Black Snake Moan
Much better than I expected. The trailers were very misleading - focusing only on the Ricci in chains aspect.


Seeing as how Brewer lives about 45 minutes up the road from me, I may be biased - throwing Kenny Brown and most of the North Mississipi blues cats in there didn't hurt, either - but I'd have to agree. One of the few things I've seen from the calendar year that I loved.
held


art school confidential

considering this was based off a comic book story by Daniel Clowes. I still found it to be remarkably true on some levels of what the art school experience was like for me. very cliche perhaps yet very true in some other respects.

the whole strangler bit was kinda lame though and the ending doesn't fit too well either imo. still I thoroughly enjoyed enough of it to recommend it even though it kinda loses its way.
Elemeno P.T.
Really surprised on how much I dug Black Snake Moan.

Felt the same way about Art School Confidential. The killer plot line was distracting. Good film that could have been great.
Held- in slowly catching up on the films you missed last year, have you seen Apocalypto? What say you?

held
QUOTE(Elemeno P.T. @ Dec 7 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]523723[/snapback]
Held- in slowly catching up on the films you missed last year, have you seen Apocalypto? What say you?


not yet. it's working it's way up in the que.. I've still got a backlog of others that I've been ignoring for over a year now.. I seriously want to plough through these but I've been lazy and then there's always something else on tv.. usual excuses.. never saw the passion he did. wife couldn't bare to watch it so I've yet to catch up with that one either..
Elemeno P.T.
QUOTE(held @ Dec 7 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]523738[/snapback]
QUOTE(Elemeno P.T. @ Dec 7 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]523723[/snapback]
Held- in slowly catching up on the films you missed last year, have you seen Apocalypto? What say you?


not yet. it's working it's way up in the que.. I've still got a backlog of others that I've been ignoring for over a year now.. I seriously want to plough through these but I've been lazy and then there's always something else on tv.. usual excuses.. never saw the passion he did. wife couldn't bare to watch it so I've yet to catch up with that one either..

Skip The Passion...but when you do get around to Apocalypto, give it a chance on a decent screen. Thing would lose at least a star rating on a computer screen.
bleach

been ages since my last viewing. still as great as memory served. guess i'm just gonna have to watch the other two again.
held
QUOTE(Elemeno P.T. @ Dec 7 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]523751[/snapback]
Thing would lose at least a star rating on a computer screen.


I have yet to watch 'any' feature on a computer screen. My sister does this and I just think it's ridiculous but then I don't need a 85 inch plasma set either.

bleach

so yea, this was good in an MTV, video game type of stylie. and who was it from the tribune that found this movie to be better than 28 Days Later? michael philips or whatever his name is? good zombie movie on its own, but unfortunately this movie had a predecessor. michael whatever i will never take you seriously again. or anybody here that says this movie is equal or better than the first movie. yea, this movie attempts to stay true to the original aesthetic vision and yes, it is certainly still enjoyable. just don't...please don't act like....look have you ever given another woman a foot massage? that shit meant something and don't act like it didn't. gone is the breathtaking cinematography (the moped scene that tried to recreate the highway scene was re-defining lines of gimmickery), metaphorical filmmaking and color schemes that held very prominent meaning in the first film. a 3.5 star movie on its own....a 2 star movie when compared to 28 Days Later.
undo
QUOTE(AFTERSHOCK @ Dec 2 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]518625[/snapback]
Speaking of catching up, I just watched this:



Vanishing Point - UK Extended Edit

Wow. This is a terrific flick. I wish I'd seen it before Death Proof, considering just how much Tarantino lifted straight outta here (I might've enjoyed the 3rd act of DP more, for one thing). But I can't dis DP too much, since it was the film that made me check out Vanishing Point. And good gooddamn is this a great movie. I don't know why it grabbed me so much - after all, there isn't much in terms of plot, characters, etc. But it's got everything it needs to work: just enough character development + glimpses of depth to keep the curiosity flowing; insane car chases; oodles of subtext; cool photography; and cars that seem to become characters in their own right... cars that fit the drivers like an extension of their drivers. Yeah, that's gotta be the clincher. Just cheesy enough to be fun, just deep enough to be taken seriously. In short, this film rocks.

I caught part of this on TV a few months ago at my parents' house. I thought it was some underground, almost unknown cult movie, but then my dad -- who watches about one movie a year -- walks in and was like "Oh, I've seen this. [spoiler]He's gonna crash.[/spoiler]" Shocking.

Oh, and it's too bad Audioslave didn't do their own stunts in that video.
bleach
wow. my interpretation of the somb is once again found to be an erroneous adventure.
AFTERSHOCK
Dude - Vanishing Point is a cool ride: simple, mostly unpretentious (although it dabbles in the mythic), minimalist entertainment with cool cars, drugs, naked girls, motorcycles and the most dust flying from under a car ever recorded on film. It's multi-layered just enough to be interesting and yet isn't trying to give you any real message [spoiler]except maybe "Nice Guys Finish Last"[/spoiler]... or do they? Ooooo what was the meaning behind that ending? Or the last hitchhiker (UK Version only)?

All right. There's not much there. Yet for some reason I totally dig this movie. tongue.gif
forgo
my day will be a large amt of vietnamese food and:


duh, my fave movie ever.


which ive never seen but should have years ago.


which i have questions abouts...
forgo
i kind of wanted to start a thread where each poster talks about and comments on their favourite movie. because i was trying to watch magnolia last night and was like "FUCK THIS MOVIE IS PERFECT". but then i started bawling and wasnt able to start somb topics.
AFTERSHOCK
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... and I'll make enemies every time, I'm sure... :

I HATED Magnolia. In fact, I'm probably the only person on the planet who hates it so much that I literally threw the DVD out the window of a 3rd floor apartment. And I'd do it again! And again! And... Why? Well, Between the [spoiler]rain of frogs (wha...?), the scene where everyone sings along to the same song (so incredibly pretentious) and Tom Cruise's always-unconvincing performance (and that scene where he breaks down... (ouch...)[/spoiler]

OK. Hate me if you must. cool.gif
forgo
no, its okay. it is DEFINITELY not a movie that everyone would love. and i hate tom cruise's performance. i fast forward through everything until [spoiler]the interview when he gets skewered[/spoiler]. because thats a fucking great scene.

i know the ending is weird, and theres still a lot in the movie that i just do not get. but, ultimately i love the total package of the film, the amazing cast, the music, the look and the idea of [spoiler]fate and coincidence[/spoiler], which the entire movie just falls upon and, given that, i dont mind the ending. in fact i like it. i love when the [spoiler]frogs start falling and who it brings together[/spoiler]. shrug. theres so much SECRET crap happening in the movie too, like the numbers 8 and 2. and shit like that i eat up.

also, william h macy is just... incredible.
bleach
QUOTE(AFTERSHOCK @ Dec 8 2007, 05:17 AM) [snapback]524452[/snapback]
Dude - Vanishing Point is a cool ride: simple, mostly unpretentious (although it dabbles in the mythic), minimalist entertainment with cool cars, drugs, naked girls, motorcycles and the most dust flying from under a car ever recorded on film. It's multi-layered just enough to be interesting and yet isn't trying to give you any real message [spoiler]except maybe "Nice Guys Finish Last"[/spoiler]... or do they? Ooooo what was the meaning behind that ending? Or the last hitchhiker (UK Version only)?

All right. There's not much there. Yet for some reason I totally dig this movie. tongue.gif

absolutely. it's one of my favorite movies of its time. i'm just surprised at the number of people who haven't seen it. i guess i just thought after learning to walk and eat, mom put on vanishing point for everybody.
anyways, you and forgo are completely off base with tom cruise in magnolia. it really is his best performance...i take that back, i haven't seen his samurai movie. but i always appreciate shit being thrown out of apt. windows.
forgo
QUOTE(bleach @ Dec 8 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]524666[/snapback]
anyways, you and forgo are completely off base with tom cruise in magnolia. it really is his best performance.

it very well may be. i have no reason to disagree with you, actually. i just hate him, hes an awful overrated actor and him being in the film really took away from the whole.
hummingbird
QUOTE(forgo @ Dec 8 2007, 02:37 PM) [snapback]524680[/snapback]
QUOTE(bleach @ Dec 8 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]524666[/snapback]
anyways, you and forgo are completely off base with tom cruise in magnolia. it really is his best performance.

it very well may be. i have no reason to disagree with you, actually. i just hate him, hes an awful overrated actor and him being in the film really took away from the whole.


Not only does Tom Cruise totally sell the performance[spoiler]I totally buy when he's crying over Jason Robards[/spoiler] but he is absolutely hilarious. [spoiler]"Fuck the cock and tame the cunt" indeed.[/spoiler]
hummingbird
And with all the John C. Reilly/Magnolia talk, who has seen this?



Totally overlooked in the Paul Thomas Anderson filmography. John C. Reilly and Phillip Baker Hall are outstanding, and that closing shot is just perfect.
caley
Tom Cruise is totally not that bad of an actor. If he was a Catholic and looked like Steve Buscemi, everyone would be hailing him as one of the best working actors and hailing his courageous roles.
forgo
QUOTE(caley @ Dec 8 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]524748[/snapback]
Tom Cruise is totally not that bad of an actor. If he was a Catholic and looked like Steve Buscemi, everyone would be hailing him as one of the best working actors and hailing his courageous roles.

hmm, ill take steve buscemi. thanks.

hard eight is excellent, but i havent seen it in a very very long time and its REALLY hard to find these days. or im not really looking.
AFTERSHOCK
QUOTE(forgo @ Dec 8 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]524680[/snapback]
QUOTE(bleach @ Dec 8 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]524666[/snapback]
anyways, you and forgo are completely off base with tom cruise in magnolia. it really is his best performance.

it very well may be. i have no reason to disagree with you, actually. i just hate him, hes an awful overrated actor and him being in the film really took away from the whole.

Hee hee! Time for me to play the arsehole card....

Forgo - I absolutely agree with all of it. Even the Buscemi part (who is a criminally underrated performer, to be sure).

Bleach - Cruise has this unique quality: No matter what he does, he always looks like a 2-dimensional image cut from a GQ Magazine ad. Honestly. And I think he knows it, too. It would certainly explain why he attempts to infuse his characters with so much energy... yet even his big [spoiler]breakdown[/spoiler] scene in Magnolia was an eye-roller at best with me. Any number of other actors could have pulled off that role easily, so why oh why didn't he catch the groove? It's because he's so damn obvious - he's trying so hard to convince us that he's working his ass off on this movie... and that he's really, really feeling it... and can't you see what a great performance this is? (This happens in everything I see him do - I was furious that I allowed myself to give Minority Report the 2+ hours it required to flub both story and performance).

What he needs is a director who understands this bizarre quality o' Tom's and use a Tarantino approach to photographing Cruise - ie: when a character is speaking, focus more on the reaction of the person their speaking to as opposed to shooting the facial expressions of the speaker. I might actually be sold on 'im as a performer if someone were to try that route. Hell, he might even win an Oscar with that approach.
forgo
QUOTE(AFTERSHOCK @ Dec 8 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]524813[/snapback]
Bleach - Cruise has this unique quality: No matter what he does, he always looks like a 2-dimensional image cut from a GQ Magazine ad.

ahh, so having no depth is a unique quality these days? no wonder ive been so confused about people lately.
Hero
QUOTE(AFTERSHOCK @ Dec 8 2007, 11:35 PM) [snapback]524813[/snapback]
What he needs is a director who understands this bizarre quality o' Tom's and use a Tarantino approach to photographing Cruise - ie: when a character is speaking, focus more on the reaction of the person their speaking to as opposed to shooting the facial expressions of the speaker. I might actually be sold on 'im as a performer if someone were to try that route. Hell, he might even win an Oscar with that approach.


Shockey, i think you're absolutely otm about Cruise.

the one example i can give you above in which a director used him well was Collateral
Jamie Foxx's reactions to Cruise were great. (Foxx nominated for the movie)

Cruise was great in that movie as well
forgo
QUOTE(forgo @ Dec 8 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]524527[/snapback]

which i have questions abouts...



i shouldnt have. i really liked it. it was really dumb and not at all memorable but i liked the chemistry between the leads and the great supporting cast. if someone had told me jack macbrayer was totally the best part of the movie, let alone IN the movie, i would have seen it in the theatre. and bearded andy richter, good god.

it was very anchorman-esque, with the actors bouncing off one another, but i loved that. and the special features were great, specifically ricky and cal's psa's
brainstorm
QUOTE(bleach @ Dec 8 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]524435[/snapback]

so yea, this was good in an MTV, video game type of stylie. and who was it from the tribune that found this movie to be better than 28 Days Later? michael philips or whatever his name is? good zombie movie on its own, but unfortunately this movie had a predecessor. michael whatever i will never take you seriously again. or anybody here that says this movie is equal or better than the first movie. yea, this movie attempts to stay true to the original aesthetic vision and yes, it is certainly still enjoyable. just don't...please don't act like....look have you ever given another woman a foot massage? that shit meant something and don't act like it didn't. gone is the breathtaking cinematography (the moped scene that tried to recreate the highway scene was re-defining lines of gimmickery), metaphorical filmmaking and color schemes that held very prominent meaning in the first film. a 3.5 star movie on its own....a 2 star movie when compared to 28 Days Later.


well, go ahead and stop taking me seriously, before you ever considered it. I like this as well if not better for one simple reason: The first crappd out and offered an at least semi-sorta hopeful ending. I don't think there really is much hope in a world where the dead resurrect, and so the coda to the sequel really helps slam the hopelessness of the whole movie home.
bleach

on any given day my life could turn into this movie.

QUOTE(threadkiller @ Dec 9 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]525084[/snapback]
well, go ahead and stop taking me seriously, before you ever considered it.

simply not true. i enjoyed about 95 percent of your work in the Supergrass thread.
bleach
QUOTE(AFTERSHOCK @ Dec 8 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]524813[/snapback]
Bleach - Cruise has this unique quality: No matter what he does, he always looks like a 2-dimensional image cut from a GQ Magazine ad. Honestly. And I think he knows it, too. It would certainly explain why he attempts to infuse his characters with so much energy... yet even his big [spoiler]breakdown[/spoiler] scene in Magnolia was an eye-roller at best with me. Any number of other actors could have pulled off that role easily, so why oh why didn't he catch the groove? It's because he's so damn obvious - he's trying so hard to convince us that he's working his ass off on this movie... and that he's really, really feeling it... and can't you see what a great performance this is? (This happens in everything I see him do - I was furious that I allowed myself to give Minority Report the 2+ hours it required to flub both story and performance).

What he needs is a director who understands this bizarre quality o' Tom's and use a Tarantino approach to photographing Cruise - ie: when a character is speaking, focus more on the reaction of the person their speaking to as opposed to shooting the facial expressions of the speaker. I might actually be sold on 'im as a performer if someone were to try that route. Hell, he might even win an Oscar with that approach.

yea, the scenario you describe easily applies to most hollywood leading men. at least forgo admits she's just a hater.
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