Neither garage nor psych nor punk, they were, quite simply, The Monks:
One of the best bands of the '60s, and one of the precious few (debatably the only) to beat The Velvets to, if not at, their own game. Fucking brilliant. Cannot recommend them strongly enough to anybody interested in tangential punk, garage, beat, psych, krautrock, noise, or just the general late '60s avant garde.
If you haven't already seen this documentary:
It's on DVD - get it.
idolatry
Nov 2 2009, 09:42 AM
Yeah, it is pretty solid stuff. I do already own that one. The vintage performances they tacked on are genius.
Just bought a copy on Amazon -- super excited about it. Most rock-docs (and books and everything else, really) lazily skip over the City's vibrant scene - straddling the coasts with occassional dips into Minneapolis & Ohio.
The DVD just got shipped to my office -- "Truly great documentaries not only evoke a period but resurrect them wholesale. That's the case with You Weren't There" - Chicago Tribune.
Ohboyohboyohboy...World Series, rock-doc? World Series, rock-doc?!
idolatry
Nov 4 2009, 04:37 PM
Dude, you have to watch the Series! The doc'll always be there, but Game 6 in the '09 Series only happens once! Hate to be a buzzkill, but you'll no doubt thank me later.
_______
Nov 4 2009, 04:37 PM
i was pawing the vinyl=DVD version at Permanent last nite and really regret buying the DVD only version.
idolatry
Nov 4 2009, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (el oso @ Nov 4 2009, 04:37 PM)
i was pawing the vinyl=DVD version at Permanent last nite and really regret buying the DVD only version.
You know, I've never actually been there. Good shop? Good selection for vintage psych or garage stuff? Reasonable prices? Just curious. That's the joint in/near Ukrainian Village, yeah?
Sid Hartha
Nov 4 2009, 04:44 PM
QUOTE (idolatry @ Nov 4 2009, 03:42 PM)
QUOTE (el oso @ Nov 4 2009, 04:37 PM)
i was pawing the vinyl=DVD version at Permanent last nite and really regret buying the DVD only version.
You know, I've never actually been there. Good shop? Good selection for vintage psych or garage stuff? Reasonable prices? Just curious. That's the joint in/near Ukrainian Village, yeah?
Yes, yes and yes.
Nice people run the joint. Spend some money there.
idolatry
Nov 4 2009, 04:52 PM
Thanks, Sid. I'll have to nose around, pretty soon.
You know, Laurie's Planet of Sound in Lincoln Square is not at all the best shop in the city, but they have a surprising amount of weird, AWESOME 45s (though the overall selection on those isn't all that hot) and often well-priced psych/garage comps and collections. I found a brilliant 45 by some pop-psych band called The Dandy Lions released on an R'n'B label which is still blowing my mind in all its scratchy glory.
On the whole, you have to be careful, because their pricing is really erratic (I got a new Davie Allan 2LP anthology for less than the CD list price, but thankfully turned down one of the new Monks reissues for $34.99, which is above the list price; got it at Reckless for $20, or something). A surprisingly good CD selection of psych/garage stuff, too, but HOLY SHIT is it all expensive. At any rate, they've got some steals buried in those bins. Just gotta be patient and be willing to do your homework, re: pricing.
_______
Nov 4 2009, 04:59 PM
yeah, the P Rex crew are good people and usually very fairly priced with a damn good selection of new vinyl.
i'm buying vinyl more than CD lately and i gotta admit i have a tough time deciding which way to go with certain things. vinyl would be ideal for everything but it's just so over-priced on some stuff.
hey is there some sort of record store in Logan Square? i heard someone mention it the other nite and wasn't familiar with it at all.
idolatry
Nov 5 2009, 11:14 AM
This one comes kind of late to the psych game, having dropped in 1974. Because of this, it is only tangentially psychedelic (even in the "world psych" sense), and has deeply integrated Nigerian funk elements. It is, though, a terrific record:
It's Ofege's The Last of the Origins. I mentioned the band upthread, particularly for the song "It's Not Easy," from that Forge Your Own Chains Stones Throw comp. That song is both more traditionally psychedelic and a bit better than most of the stuff on this record, but there is a strong sense of cohesion, consistency, and just fun, to these ears, on this record. That one song convinced me to delve into everything, and after spending a week with three of their records, I'm ready to declare this one the go-to choice. Awesome stuff.
If you don't mind some funk or Nigerian vibes in your psych, and if the year 1974 doesn't send you running for the hills, I implore you to check out this mo'fucker.
I still much prefer Try And Love. I think I uploaded it awhile ago.
idolatry
Nov 5 2009, 07:49 PM
I've got nothing against that one, either. Good stuff.
NewGrass
Nov 5 2009, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (idolatry @ Nov 5 2009, 06:49 PM)
I've got nothing against that one, either. Good stuff.
Oh I have no beef with The Last of the Origins, totally dig it, just felt they never surpassed their debut
Dag Nasty
Nov 6 2009, 12:14 PM
Terrific documentary -- great fun to hear these aging bastards reminisce & swap tales and war stories. Some of the old footage they unearthed is great. To see/hear these bands & folks enjoy the full attention span and study, as opposed to being also-rans to the coastal scene dominance, is satisfying.
QUOTE (idolatry @ Nov 4 2009, 04:37 PM)
buzzkill
May as well be Vic Bondi's middle name in the credits.
What a drag...I understand the attraction of 'punk polemics' and the stern rigidity of the code of ethics and blah blah blah...but what about the fun?! What about the the outrageous fun had by young people playing rock & roll music for themselves and for the folks that wanted to see and hear them? A grown up R.o.t.A., specifically, shined when interviewed.
idolatry
Nov 24 2009, 06:11 PM
I apologize for not bothering to do a search and thereby possibly being redundant, but has the thread heard this?
It's High Beams, by Magic Lanterns. Not the late '60s band from Chicago, but a contemporary, deep fried psych band. Sid, et al, you guys should be all the fuck over this thing, if you aren't, already. I'm late to the game, as the record came out something like a year ago. Shame. Would've easily been one of my favorites of 2008. As it stands, it is one of the best records I've heard, this year. Searing, soaring, scorching stuff. I got a fucking contact high, off this thing.
pigfuck
Nov 24 2009, 07:09 PM
I downloaded and, I believe, deleted that album about 8 months ago or so I think. Can't remember anything about it sounded pretty druggy I think.
NewGrass
Nov 24 2009, 07:16 PM
I much prefer Sun Araw.
idolatry
Nov 24 2009, 07:20 PM
It is certainly druggy. Just bought Heavy Deeds, this afternoon, NG. Very solid. Can't say that I've heard anything else by Magic Lanterns, just yet. Not sure how it'd stack up, but I do know that I think Heavy Deeds absolutely towers above everything else I've heard by Sun Araw. Lots of forgettable stuff, to my ears. Pleasant enough, but kinda forgettable.
idolatry
Nov 27 2009, 11:00 PM
Big haul, today, thanks to Sid's pimping of Permanent. True to your word, gangster, the dudes working there (not to mention the cat) were all kinds of helpful and not assholes. IE, they didn't work at Reckless, where I always feel like I have to apologize for buying whatever I'm buying. Either way, some highlights relative to this thread (most of which can be tried out online with relative ease) include...
The Black Angels: Directions to See a Ghost (2008)
Wooden Shjips: Dos (2009)
Eternal Tapestry: The Invisible Landscape (2009)
The aforementioned High Beams (2008), by Magic Lantern:
And, for NewGrass, Ofege's Try and Love (1974)
I also picked up a Permanent release by Purling Hiss--Purling Hiss (2009). Frenzied, both psychotic and psychedelic, and brain-flaying shit. Totally hideous, righteous shit. Says the website:
QUOTE
Purling Hiss is one of Philly’s Best! Purling Hiss is the side-project of Holy Mountain recording artists, Birds of Maya, guitarist Mike Pollize. Birds of Maya are a full-on psychedelic rock band from Philly. Apparently, Birds just aren’t full-on enough to satisfy Pollize’s far-out tendencies. On his debut solo record, Pollize plays bass, drums, and guitar, relentlessly, as if he’s playing to save his life. This recording is so intense that the pressing plant told us they’d risk breaking their equipment if they cut the lacquers with the original master. We sent ‘em a new master and it sounds great! For Fans Of: Birds of Maya, Earthless, Loop, High Rise, Les Rallizes Denudes, and Lo-Fi Blown-Out Psych
An unreasonably good, exciting, and grab-you-by-your-throat album.
Here's a review with the best picture of the LP cover I could find. This one, you see, isn't quite as easy to find on the internets:
That Purling Hiss sounds great. Any chance of an upload?
idolatry
Nov 27 2009, 11:50 PM
Vinyl only, son. Sorry.
pigfuck
Nov 28 2009, 12:12 AM
QUOTE (idolatry @ Nov 27 2009, 08:50 PM)
Vinyl only, son. Sorry.
Your copy didn't come with the digital download like they advertise?
don't call me son.
idolatry
Nov 28 2009, 12:58 AM
I bought a lot of stuff, so it's possible that something slipped out and got temporarily lost, sonny boy. I will have a look around and see what I can see. I didn't even know that it was supposed to come with a download, having bought it so randomly. My greatest fear, at this point, is that I've accidentally recycled it or thrown it away, already. I wasn't even looking for a download card. Fuck.
EDIT: The good news is that you can listen to two of the three "big" songs on the album, via MySpace. http://www.myspace.com/purlinghiss
pigfuck
Nov 28 2009, 02:35 AM
idolatry, don't know if you're aware or not, but I'm pretty sure this Purling Hiss record you purchased is just noise.
_______
Nov 28 2009, 04:56 AM
everything Permanent Records releases is pretty much "just noise" anyway... love them to death, but i still haven't fallen in love with any of their releases.
idolatry
Nov 28 2009, 12:20 PM
Well, it is just noise in the sense that music is just noise, yes. Awesome, fun, exciting noise. At least to these ears. Sounds, to me, like a very amped-up, more hard-psyched Wooden Shjips.
pigfuck
Nov 28 2009, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (idolatry @ Nov 28 2009, 09:20 AM)
Well, it is just noise in the sense that music is just noise, yes. Awesome, fun, exciting noise. At least to these ears. Sounds, to me, like a very amped-up, more hard-psyched Wooden Shjips.
probably gonna buy it after listening to their myspace songs.
idolatry
Nov 28 2009, 01:11 PM
Bitchin', man. For context, the record has three long pieces (between, say, 10 and 15 minutes), like those two on the MySpace page, and then a few shorter tracks that try to hold everything together. The shorter ones are something like 1-2 minutes, each. The whole thing teeters on the brink, from the get-go, but somehow pulls it off and holds together to form a stupidly cohesive record. I mean, relatively speaking. It's kind of like an LP-length, more frenzied/uglier "Sister Ray," only and obviously lacking entirely in the significance of said track.
No idea how it'll hold up, in the long run, but I'm enjoying the hell out of the motherfucker, so far. I have found, though, that a lot of the contemporary psych/etc. releases I get way into burn out a lot faster than the older ones. Could just be me, as I got into the older stuff when I was younger and a lot more patient with music, but either way. It is what it is. I hope that this one holds up, because enjoying it this much for a few years, instead of a few weeks, would really jazz me up.
Also, that The Black Angels record I mentioned? Dizzying in its awesomeness. Really cool, jammy, propulsive, well-composed and orchestrated freak-outs. Nothing like the spazzed out Purling Hiss stuff; a lot more structure. Terrific guitar textures and use of repetition. Great grooves, great howls, great, near-anthemic songs.
This is the debut full length LP by Madison Wisconsin's Peaking Lights. Members Indra Dunis (Numbers/Rah Dunes) and Aaron Coyes (Rah Dunes) created a stunner that's full of hypnotic analog electronics, pulsing drum sounds, perfectly somber pop layered keys, blown psych guitar, and Indra's warm drifting vocals. This record is all its own, everything it needs to be, and it won't disappoint any expectations of its harmony and beauty. Groovy, spacey, heartfelt music for a new age. Art work and silkscreen by Shawn Reed. (Night People)
pigfuck
Dec 22 2009, 04:05 AM
i love this thread
idolatry
Dec 31 2009, 01:12 PM
Fuck me. AWESOME. This isn't exactly my best post of all time, but I'm too busy loving this to bother with descriptions. Fuck that.
Ty Segall & Mikal Crontin: Reverse Shark Attack
Available for trial, by way of the internets. Great shit, y'all. Seems right up this thread's alley (or, anyway, as of late).
Watched this over Christmas. A little slow, but better that than the incomplete feeling I get from most rock docs. The big revelation to me was Jeff Pezzati's statement to the effect that the 'classic' NR woah-woah gimmick was a Sant Durango creation. Explains quite a bit wrt to the rapidly diminishing quality of their records.
Also interesting that Pierre was only listed as Strike Under and Trial By Fire, as the timespan of the film predates his most famous gig.
Also, Mike O'Connell is funnier than Steve Albini in this.
Ted Falconi
Jan 3 2010, 05:44 PM
Oh, and that "Surf Combat" wasn't Naked Raygun's own song. I haven't listened to the record yet, but the original is on there.
First song on there, "Run From The City," was done with Purling Hiss. For anybody interested in that sort of thing.
idolatry
Jan 4 2010, 09:41 PM
Finally tracked down a copy of Magic Lantern's self-titled first release, pictured here:
It is, as they say, right up my alley. Same deep-fried, vaguely woodsy, very trippy psych as was found on High Beams, which I know at least a few people around these parts heard. Really been digging on this band, for the last few months. They've recently announced a new release, Platoon, which will soon drop via Not Not Fun. I'm quite looking forward to it.
idolatry
Jan 5 2010, 12:26 AM
I think that this is one for Paves. I'm looking in the recently re-christened Pigfuck's general direction, as well...
GISM: Detestation
Brutal, psychotic, rambling, snorting, yowling, sometimes burping, more-or-less punk/hardcore combo from early '80s Tokyo. Songs delivered in both broken English and broken Japanese. Unique even for the Japanese scene of the time. The lead singer was and (as far as I can tell) still is a fucking lunatic. Wildly disparate (for the time) influences make themselves known, and range from various strands of metal to industrial to death growl vocalizations. Really thin mastering, but the songs and the intensity are there. Certainly held my attention, I'll tell you that.
It can be found pretty easily.
Gluehead
Jan 5 2010, 01:18 AM
I just gave a listen to this album again and I think it'd be perfect to bring up in this thread:
If The Monks had started wearing surgical masks instead of shaving the tops of their heads and recorded a second album, Do It! is probably what would have resulted. Most albums sound like homages to late '60s garage psych but this album actually sounds like it was recorded in 1968 and sat in a vault for 40 years. It didn't get the attention it deserved upon its release, and never really heard by the people would would appreciate it most, but I think a lot of people in here might like it so definitely give it a listen if you've never heard it before.
Pavement Ist Rad
Jan 5 2010, 01:24 AM
I thought Internal Wrangler was amazing at one point. It's still quite good. Since then, Clinic has been one of the most consistently underwhelming groups for me. I wrote their last two off after one listen each.
And holy hell, a G.I.S.M. shoutout on this message board. That's the kind of shit I'd expect from the seedy Chicago crust punks I knew in high school. Never listened before, but I am a sucker for brutal hardcore. Need to start really digging into that '80s shit at some point.
idolatry
Jan 5 2010, 01:27 AM
It's damn-ass good, son. I feel like I can pretty well guarantee your liking it.
The problem with digging into all the '80s shit is that, you know, SO much of it is shit. I'm not denouncing a movement/era, or anything, as I like or have liked plenty of it...but, man, a lot of people made a lot of records and a lot of them really shouldn't have bothered. Mountains of shit to climb. Thank Moses for the internet, I guess. It was never that easy, when I was a weirdo music freak, in high school.
spiritofeden
Jan 5 2010, 11:01 AM
QUOTE (Pavement Ist Rad @ Jan 5 2010, 01:24 AM)
I thought Internal Wrangler was amazing at one point. It's still quite good. Since then, Clinic has been one of the most consistently underwhelming groups for me. I wrote their last two off after one listen each.
agreed that Walking With Thee and Winchester Chathedral were slightly underwhelming, but DO IT! is a spectacular album. you should really give it a go.
Watched this over Christmas. A little slow, but better that than the incomplete feeling I get from most rock docs..... Also, Mike O'Connell is funnier than Steve Albini in this.
Mike O'Connell was the best part of the whole movie. there is some funny stuff in the extras on the DVD.
Ted Falconi
Jan 6 2010, 03:10 AM
I want a framed print of the ROTA band photo with them walking up behind the 80s babe.
idolatry
Jan 24 2010, 02:00 PM
QUOTE (pigfuck @ Jan 6 2010, 12:22 AM)
DLing that GISM album right now. Thanks idolatry.
What'd you think?
Also, did anybody go to that psych blowout at The Hideout, on Friday? Jesus Fucking Fuck, that was a show. Sadhu Sadhu, I thought, were particularly spectacular. Anyone know those cats? Really fantastic jams. Most of the stuff they had for sale is streaming on the MySpace, which is here. Strongly recommended, if your taste is at all like mine. Strongly. Shit's vaguely eastern, very classically psych-y, not too freak-y, and, you know, just ass-kicking. Wooden Shjips, Hawkwing, et al = good parallel to what I heard, even if some of the stuff on their "Walkabout" cassette and the dude's solo record is miles away from that.
Plastic Crimewave Sound, Vee Dee, and Dark Fog brought it, too.
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