John Cale, Spy Songs & RIP Wayne Shorter


For more than 60 years, John Cale has continued to make exciting, challenging and culturally relevant music, including his most recent release, Mercy. Hosts Jim DeRogatis and Greg Kot talk with the Velvet Underground legend about his new music, collaborations and legacy. Plus, the hosts share some of their favorite spy songs and bid farewell to jazz saxophonist Wayne Shorter.

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John Cale


John Cale is a founder of The Velvet Underground along with Lou Reed. An acclaimed producer and solo artist, Cale recently released Mercy, his seventeenth solo album. Hosts John DeRogatis and Greg Kot welcome Cale for another interview on Sound Opinions.

Spy Songs


In honor of John Cale's short-lived “Spy Records” label- and inspired by the spy balloons of recent weeks, Jim and Greg share their favorite songs about spies and espionage. Selections range from reggae to power pop.


  • Johnny Rivers, "Secret Agent Man"
  • The Fugs, "CIA Man"
  • Rockwell, "Somebody’s Watching Me"
  • Lori & The Chameleons, "The Lonely Spy"
  • The dB’s, "A Spy In the House of Love"


  • Tony Allen, "Secret Agent"
  • Gene Vincent, "Private Detective (feat. The Shouts)"
  • The Untouchables, "I Spy (For the F.B.I.)"
  • Desmond Dekker & the Aces, "007 (Shanty Town)"
  • Big Boys, "Detectives"

Obituary: Wayne Shorter


Jazz saxophonist Wayne Shorter recently died and Greg offers a tribute with an archival assist from Don Was.

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